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Comentario de Mitercondu

Does anyone know why the heal is there/can tell me some strategic reason to have it other than for more health?

What I'm saying is, why not just replace it with more damage or something of a similar nature?

Comentario de 33684

Is Bloodthirst affected by +Spell crit or +healing items and effects?

And if so, what's the % coefficient for +healing gear?
(Like, how much +healing do you need to get bloodthirst to heal you for 1 more health)

Comentario de Garner

It's difficult to spike the damage for Bloodthirst. Changing the weapon usually will not do as much good as piling on +strength items. This is because it's damage is completely dependent upon your attack power.

And because it's damage is independent of your weapon it just so happens to deal awesome damage even if you're disarmed. Maintain your unarmed in order to get maximum effect.

Comentario de Ironstance

Eh ok, besides just being an instant attack with not bad damage the healing effect is a nice bonus to it, but the thing I'm wondering about is if healing gear can increase this effect such as enchants and paladin plate armor with healing bonuses. If so, then this could actually be very useful since it doesn't take much to double the normal amount healed.

Comentario de NerArth

(Related to WLK version of the ability, Bloodthirst (WLK)) (It's all subject to change I suppose...)
The new way the heal will work will make it only have one rank, considering that's the only difference ranks had anyway.

Love the fact it's percentage now instead of a fixed value, although perhaps the heal should be lowered a bit, I don't know how damage will be in the comming expansion but still seems a bit too much health to recover every 6 seconds (assuming you use it every possible cooldown).

Comentario de mrphump

Assuming someone has say, 5k health

Here is a "real world" situation. On live 2.4.3 TBC I do dailies in S3/S4 gear, sometimes as fury. That gives me around 13.5k HP, close to 400 resil, and I still have decent damage stats. Mobs hit me for about 100 to 200 damage. With TBC Blood Craze and the tiny amount of heals I get with the current TBC Bloodthirst I can go without eating or bandaging for maybe 5 minutes.

TBC Bloodthirst currently gives 150 HP per 6 seconds (assuming we get 5 swings in, etc), but with WLK Bloodthirst I would get 13500/100*7.5 =1012.5 HP per 6 seconds. That's almost 7 times better. Man, that would let fury warriors have a ridiculously small downtime.

(Also I know that most fury warriors will skip Blood Craze for any serious PvE, but its worth noting that it will be buffed to double of what it currently does in BC, WLK Blood Craze. It will still be useless for PvE, but twice as good for farming and PvP)

Comentario de 70797

Thanks for putting into perspective(I dont have a high level warrior myself, so I dont know all the 'in's and outs'), but I think the point still stands that nobody would be purely spamming bloodthirst either in a PVP situation or in raids, in which I assume that you'd need to keep rampage up, move around, etc.
Though, I could be wrong.

...On a sidenote, I need to level up my warrior! :)

Comentario de 205996

I dont know if this is a stupid question or something cuz im building my first warrior now. But can Bloodthirst crit? and would it be a nice combination with whirlwind axe and slam?

Comentario de 202718

Requires Melee Weapon? Heh, I thought the tooltip looked too long. Oh well.

So, did this use to be 1.5% per hit? That does sound pretty high. 0.6% is still pretty useful. It's a lot more useful than what it used to be.

Anyone know how useful that glyph is (the one that increases the healing from BT by 20%). We'd need a few numbers on the healing received by some warriors.

Comentario de 119656

Beta Build 9138 change:

Bloodthirst damage changed to 50% of Attack Power; up from 45%

Comentario de 162546

from what i can see, 0,6% it' pretty pathetic..
with 14204 (brutal/t6 gear + commanding shout) i'm healing 85hp per hit.. 425 health with 5 attacks...

it's a bit higher than the old rank3 version, that was healing for 75hp. nothing special.

Comentario de 238760

did they also lower the cooldown?

Comentario de 284695

Bloodthirst is great for lvling (especially when using dual wield - you have lot of rage to use), because it means extra damage + healing (= saving time from eating). Normally i used to kill 3-5 mobs (like not at once) on my lvl without eating.

But i find it useless for pvp - healing effect isnt high enough to keep you alive even second longer.

Comentario de 202228

Any leveling warrior should definitely invest in the Glyph of Bloodthirst.

With the new changes to Bloodthirst (1% heal, 3 charges), it works out to be 6% healing per 5 seconds providing you're using it on cooldown, and you get the full 3 hits on a mob.

It's usefulness doesn't even need explaining.

Comentario de Vesh

Anyone know if this shares cooldown with mortal strike? If not, after patch 3.1 maybe getting both with 2X 1h axes (for extra critt) will be cool. u loose rampage (5% critt for whole party) and bloodsurge (20% chance on some hits to make slam instant), but gain an extra instant (with an effect), 5% critt from poleaxe spec (makes up for rampage, at least for yourself), trauma and taste of blood + imp overpwr.

Comentario de 212191

Anyone knows if Bloodthirst shares Cooldown with Mortal Strike? coz if it doesnt, u can get both powerful striked :-P

Comentario de asloversgo

Aw man, I remember back in the oooold days when Bloodthirst increased the damage done on your next strike by 100%, aswell as giving a 100% critical chance...

Comentario de 182403

since there are some questions about this

BT has a shared CD with MS

"dot"

Comentario de Unrighteousness

As the current tooltip of Bloodthirst go now, why not just simply write AP / 2. AP times 50 / 100 does the same thing. *coughs*

Comentario de darknesscalls

Being changed in Patch 3.1.3:

Bloodthirst: Cooldown reduced from 5 seconds to 4 seconds, and rage cost reduced from 30 rage to 20 rage.

This was aimed as a buff to Fury Warriors' DPS, Ghostcrawler believs that the spec's DPS was falling behind.

Comentario de 114372

Not sure if it is just me, but I've noticed Bloodthirst's heal has been critting far more often, sometimes all 3 heals critting within seconds. My gear has not changed since 3.2 hit which is why I'm suspicious.

Comentario de temu92

Wondering, what is reason behind that "complex" mathematical expression? Because AP * 50 / 100 is equal to AP / 2 :P

Comentario de 255359

I am curious if we will see this ability in some obscure tanking builds once Cata hits. With a fast weapon, this ability could provide 6% healing every 4 seconds (glyphed). That's around 3k healing on a well-geared tank, not too shabby indeed.

Comentario de 534473

Ironically in cataclysm this ability deals less damage than heroic strike (0.6 * AP), which is supposedly our 'extra damage for extra rage' ability.

Comentario de sorsa

On PTR 4.0.1:

- Doesn't heal, most likely a bug since tooltip still says it should.
- As said before now on a 3s cooldown.

Comentario de 367590

I'm curious as to why the reduction in healing? The CD has only gone down by 25% but the healing has gone down by 50%. Wars couldn't solo much before, compared to other tanks, now it is going to be even harder.

Comentario de 96584

IMO Bloodthirst is the best levelling specification for new players/characters from level 1 (especially for those who does not have heirloom weapons), as it is not directly affected by your weapon damage. You may not have decent weapons all the time as you levelling, but you can always benefit from the AP boost when upgrading all your other equipments. Hence, Bloodthirst can provide you a stable-increasing dmg output throughout your levelling.

Comentario de FinickyFlame

I'm spamming this skill in my pve rotation. Since most of your proc (Battle Trance, Bloodsurge) come from this ability, you should always, from my point of view, use it when the cd is done. It helps you not die, and saves a bit of healer's mana.

My rotation is:
1.- Colossus Smash
2.- (3 times)
3.- Bloodthirst -> Colossus Smash -> (go to 2.)

If your Bloodsurge hasn't proc, you can use the GCD to cast Battle Shout, Commanding Shout, Demoralizing Shout, Sunder Armor (+) or Whirlwind (Multiples adds).

Comentario de midnightstar

In 4.0.6, Bloodthirst damage will be increased by approximately 30%.

Comentario de 442888

Existing healing:

Base = 0.5% x 3 hits = 1.5%
Glyph of Bloody Healing = 40%
Field Dressing = 20% self + 6% all

= 0.5% * 3 * 1.40 * 1.20 * 1.06

= 2.6712%

per cast.

Comentario de heartlessnobody

Attack the target in a bloodthirsty craze, dealing 200% Physical damage, generating 10 Rage, and restoring 5% of your health.

Bloodthirst has an additional 40% chance to be a critical strike.

I wonder how much headlong rush reduces the 4.5 sec cooldown

Comentario de heartlessnobody

well aside from the crit nerf is looks better

Comentario de rodalpho

The devs told us exactly how Fury abilities work in PvP at the link(s) below.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20747314610#2
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/20252902

I'm pasting it here as they typically delete the beta forums after release.

~~Bloodthirst heals for 50% in PvP~~

Bloodthirst’s heal is no longer reduced in PvP.

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Instante	4.5 seg de reutilización

Atacas al objetivo con un frenesí sanguinario que inflige (155.25% of Attack power) p. de daño físico y restaura un 3% de tu salud.

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n/d

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Costo

Ninguno

Rango

5 metros (Combat)

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Reutilización

4.5 segundos

GCD

1.5 segundos

Efecto #1

School Damage (Física) (Mod AP:1.5525)
Multiplicador JcJ: 1

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Give Power (Ira)
Valor: 8
Multiplicador JcJ: 1

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[Initiates Combat (Enabled Auto-Attack)]
[Discount Power On Miss]
[Chain From Caster]
Requiere Arma en la Mano Principal
[Aura Points On Client]
[Enforce Facing on Primary Target Only]
Permite Activaciones de Habilidad de Clase

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