Kurzübersicht

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1.	Mord in der Boxbar
2.	Hoch mit den Fäusten
3.	Verdeckte Ermittlerin: Anne Dennison
4.	Die Finanzpartizipationsanregung
5.	Ein Gefallen für Euren alten Kumpel Winifred
6.	Lord Brauns Schulden

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Kommentar von hardnut

To enable the guessing game players must purchase and hand in High Roller's Contract, after handing it in, speak with Lord Winfred Browne to pick player or the monster to win.

Kommentar von LuthofDS

~~This quest seems tedious, especially on less populated realms.You only win a few coins each time.~~

I'm an idiot. Betting right will give you a stacking buff that lets you win more coins every time.

Kommentar von kthallus

Buy the contract from Ulanni the Gold Exchange merchant across from the Bizmo's Brawlpub Bouncer (the guy you see to start the fights). The contract last for 30 minutes shows up as a buff.

Kommentar von dutchrend1

That feel when there's no one else doing brawler's guild to bet on.

Kommentar von Shape430

A really annoying quest to do if you happen to be on a low pop server like myself :/

Kommentar von Sipder2

Full questline:

1. Mord in der Boxbar
2. Hoch mit den Fäusten
3. Verdeckte Ermittlerin: Anne Dennison
4. Die Finanzpartizipationsanregung
5. Ein Gefallen für Euren alten Kumpel Winifred
6. Lord Brauns Schulden

7. Beweispaket: Lord Winifred Braun
8. Verdeckte Ermittlerin: Saralara Zischelsprung

9. Seelenscherben
10. Mächtige Seelenscherben

11. Grund zur Besorgnis
12. Das wertvolle 13-zähnige Schutzbrillengetriebe
13. Zischelsprungs Schutzbrillenexperiment
14. Beweispaket: Schattenmeister O'Flannerty
15. Verdeckter Ermittler: Der stille Jussho

16. Wer hat, der hat
17. Zu Tode gelangweilt

18. Beweispaket: Grant Lazarby
19. Der Boxbarprozess
20. Ein Hinweis aus Area 52
21. Das Rätsel lösen

Guide mount: https://youtu.be/SuGTZ6M2nBg

Kommentar von Thorbaird

Don't lose hope!

I got to this quest, looked around at the empty brawl pub, read the comments here, and despaired. But I figured it couldn't hurt to create a custom group for the quest and list it in group finder -- I and wound up getting a little impromptu group together that way.

Working together, we banged out the whole questline and got Bruce in about 3 hours. It was a blast.

Kommentar von Mellro

This may be downvoted b/c it's more rant than helpful comment so apologies in advance, but it seems like a lot of people here share the same sentiment, that Blizzard really has a bad habit of leaving some quests and objectives up to the uncontrollable factors before players can complete them. Not something manageable or mildly in our control like RNG, either. It's server population and the actions of other players, which is ENTIRELY out of our hands. Dealing with other people is fine in other areas like group content since those encourage interaction & cooperation, but this particular quest? It forces a dependency on the very conditions of server population & player activity. You don't group up here, that's not a requirement, and you don't win by fighting a boss either. Instead you're required to wait for someone else to fight just so you can use an NPC to mooch off of their battle, which is everything but player interaction/cooperation in the way MMOs are supposed to work. You don't need the player, you just need their presence, which is kind of a parasitic and unhealthy interaction for an MMO imho.

If you are on a low-pop server (and even on denser servers, Brawler's Guild still isn't all that popular these days) then you are basically barred from getting the mount due to something entirely out of your control. It's not something you can complete on your own with enough time and effort, there's no difficulty curve or strategy to master, no ilvl or group requirement, no rep or item grind. It's not un-doable because of group content or a lack of skill, it's literally un-doable because no one else is around. Brawlpub quickly becomes empty and abandoned the longer it's been open after a new season's release (which, at it's best only gets 5-10 people on a mid/high pop server), so the longer someone takes to get to beat the previous challenges and get to this quest, the lower chances they have of actually completing the whole questline, which is pretty unfair considering you have until the end of the season to wait for enough players to show up, bet on them, win enough of those bets, and then finish the rest of this lengthy questline as well. Blizzard should revise this one because of that lack of control over your own progress. Quests like these need to have a hard, bottom line of giving players the means to complete them no matter what. Not that they need to be easy, but they need to be doable through factors the player can actually control within the time frame given.

Either we should be able to bet on ourselves, or this quest should be altered. Maybe make it so NPCs at varying ranks can throw down in the arena against the bosses and we can bet on them. I'd rather have random odds than no odds at all. Also, drastically drop the required amount of coins, because 100 coins means in the worse case scenario, you'd be betting on 100 fights. Good luck with that. (20-30 would be much better.)

Edit: TL;DR - Blizzard dropped the ball with this quest's design. Your progress relies entirely on other players showing up to participate in content that's decidedly unpopular, with low attendance even on a good day. Since it's not optional, this quest creates a bottleneck on the path to a mount that will be unobtainable when the next expansion comes (which is a MONTH AWAY as of this edit), nevermind the other challenges in this questline. It should've been revised due to how little control you have over your own progress.

That being said, I should end the rant with something mildly helpful. If you do happen to be on a low pop server or the B-guild is just empty, ask a friend or someone willing to help (like other people stuck on this bad quest design). Have them throw all their matches while you bet on the boss they fight, then just rake in the cash. If they're stuck too, do your part by switching places so they can move on as well! If you have no friends and/or no one is around, I'd recommend joining the WoW Achievements discord, and posting a request for help with this poorly planned part of the adventure. People go there to organize groups for pretty much anything in WoW. You'll probably find at least one person willing to help (especially since it's nearing next expansion now and the completionists are about.) Best of luck!

Kommentar von Sunreaver

So... the way this confusing quest works is this:

When another player begins fighting, Lord Winifred Browne will say "I will now begin accepting your wagers" or something to that effect. He can be found standing next to the remote view console.
Once he says that, talk to him and choose either the Hero (player) or the Monster (brawler npc) as your wager.
A second or two after the fight starts, Lord Winifred will say "That's enough, no more wagers." and you must wait to see who wins.

Couple of gotchas with the way it works - these are what to look for if Lord Winifred isn't offering any dialogue options:

If no one else has already started the wager "game", you must spend 100 Brawler's Gold to purchase the High Roller's Contract from Ulaani. She is standing nearby at the table/booth. The contract is turned in to Lord Winifred's assistant, Harold G. Goldsprocket (the gnome standing next to him).
You can't bet on yourself, so you have to wait until someone else is fighting a brawl. Lord Winifred only gives the dialogue choice of Hero or Monster if a fight has started (meaning, once someone has teleported down into the arena).

For Horde players, some of the names change but the process is basically the same.

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Die Finanzpartizipationsanregung

Gewinnt 100 Kämpfergold in Lord Winifred Brauns Ratespiel. Wenn das Spiel gerade nicht aktiv ist, könnt Ihr es einfach aktivieren, indem Ihr einen Risikospielvertrag von Ulaani kauft.

	Kämpfergold von Lord Winifred Braun gewonnen (100)

Beschreibung

Lord Braun scheint dort drüben eine Art Wettpiel zu veranstalten. Die Leute können Kämpfergold auf ihren Favoriten setzen. Findet heraus, wie das Spiel genau funktioniert. Wenn Ihr genug Geld von ihm gewinnt, redet er vielleicht...

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Belohnungen

Ihr bekommt:

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Bei Abschluss dieser Quest erhaltet Ihr:

Wenn du Folgendes im Spiel eingibst, kannst du überprüfen, ob du das schon abgeschlossen hast:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(55005))

Die Finanzpartizipationsanregung

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