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Kommentar von derbster

Für Patch 7.2:

Karazhan ist in zwei Dungeons unterteilt worden, einen unteren und einen oberen Teil
beide Teile können im heroischen Schwierigkeitsgrad absolviert werden
beide Teile können nun über den Dungeonfinder betreten werden

Questitems:
Untere Rückkehr nach Karazhan: Tasche der tausend Fächer: Drop von Moroes
Obere Rückkehr nach Karazhan: Teufelssehnentasche: Drop von Viz'aduum der Beobachter

Kommentare

Kommentar von Jaxor

Bagzinga!

Kommentar von Cr0wl0ck

What big bag ? we have had Hexenzwirntasche for over a year and they are not that pricey...
Crafting these might actually cost more for less value as it can be mass produced.

Kommentar von Rossmallo

Alternate Title given the quest text: Looks Aren't Everything.

Unless these bags are a component for something, they are literally worthless for the significantly higher cost.

Kommentar von Necromanic

"Recover a Bag of a Thousand Pockets and a Fel Sinew Bag from Karazhan."

Oh great...

If you are a solo player who was making money from Hexweave Bags you can kiss that cashcow goodbye because this friend wall friendly recipe apparently has no cooldown!

Kommentar von Shatterhawk

Okay, it says Kara, but which one? The old raid or the new mythic dungeon?

Kommentar von nucrus

Anyone know where this starts?

Kommentar von Xanaedarra

So, any clue what we have to do in this quest? I'm totally lost.

Kommentar von Xperia

Reply from GM when asked if new or old Kara. . .

"Hello "Name", Game Master Moonarkus here, I hope this message finds you well!

After the release of Legion and the fact that developers added several "secrets" to the game, Game Masters are no longer allowed to provide tips and suggestions :) but fortunately there are websites like this one that will make it up for it: http://www.wowhead.com.

In this case, the link you would like to look for is here: http://www.wowhead.com/quest=44741. It's the specific page for this quest and you can find comments on the bottom. They are updated constantly! :)

I take the chance to wish you a great day."

Kommentar von helenhealswow

Pretty sure it is from the updated version. I went and checked out the old anyway...nothing.

Kommentar von DoctorZOX

To Clarify this quest takes place in the NEW " Return to Karazhan Mythic Dungeon " 7.1 patch NOT the raid or the old version. When we got to Moroes a couple people in our group had to go, so we did not kill him however when I moused over him it showed 0/1 for each item needed for this quest. I hope this helps. Will update once I complete(##RESPBREAK##)520##DELIM##Onyx1831##DELIM##

Kommentar von karazyabko

Got first bag from Moroes yesterday, suspect second is from last boss

Kommentar von 313183

The quest items drop off of Moroes and Viz'aduum, in the NEW Karazhan instance.

And yes, the material cost for these is ridiculously bad compared to Hexweave Bags, which basically require only time. However, it's not like there's a ton of other uses for Shal'dorei Silk/Imbued Silkweave currently.

Kommentar von Spinaker

NPC which gives the quest is located at 40,33/69,48 in Suramar, Leyweaver Tytallo.

Kommentar von Geocthulu

Does blizz really think everyone wants to do mythics? Mythics should only be an option for those people that want a challenge. I personally don't need more challenges. I just need a stupid recipe.

Kommentar von jimbobaus

Fingers crossed these items drop from new heroic versions coming in 7.2

Kommentar von Arugadh

Yeah, Blizz is forcing us into Mythics just for freakin' profs and a silly recipe that's already outdone by existing old content recipes.

Worse, Mythics aren't available in auto-LFG, so if you're not in a guild or your guild isn't running mythic content, just kiss your prof progression good-bye. And if you happen to be a class/spec that isn't top of the DPS/tank/heal ranks, forget Mythics via the custom LFG completely.

Thanks, Blizz. Leave the Mythics for the players who want the challenge. If you're going to *require* them for profs, then have the courtesy of putting them into auto-LFG, so I won't get kicked just for being a spec no one wants.

Kommentar von Eighjan

Doesn't look like this is part of the Tailoring progress chain... so pretty much 'ignorable' for alt's. that aren't likely to see gear levels required for Mythic Dungeoning.

Kommentar von 1403185

This is exactly the kind of $h!t that makes me want to dump WoW and go back to EQ, or maybe try something new. Locking content I want to do, behind content I have no desire or intention to do, just plain sucks.

Kommentar von pablodee

WTF are blizz thinking ... so we have to try and find a mythic group to do this ? ...for a plan of 30 slot bags that i can already make ? .... I think they are trying to get rid of professions .... why make it such a pain in the ass ? ....it doesn't actually tell you you need a mythic group ...I'm not even sure how you get into this dungeon .... QQ

Kommentar von agnasg

It's confirmed, these items drop from the heroic versions Lower Return to Karazhan and Upper Return to Karazhan

Kommentar von Azoney

In 7.2 it is now possible to complete this quest in Legion Heroic Dungeon Finder.

The Tasche der tausend Fächer is obtained from the boss Moroes in the Lower Return to Karazhan
The Teufelssehnentasche is obtained from the end boss Viz'aduum der Beobachter in the Upper Return to Karazhan

Maybe it was implemented before 7.2 - I dont know cause I just came back from at long wow break.

Kommentar von JennyFoxx

Now obtainable in heroic.

Kommentar von Terrorka

In 7.2 still needed to be done this on mythic?

Kommentar von bsmorgan

There's a simple fix... Make this bag 32 slot. Come on Blizzard, pull your head out!

Kommentar von 0rph3n

In 7.1.5 patch, the quests items can only be obtained in Mythic, not in Mythic+

Kommentar von Shanixx

Anyone know the prereqs for this quest? I am standing at Leyweaver Tytallo, but he is not offering me the quest. If it matters, I have not finished either the tailoring or the Suramar questlines.

Kommentar von Greeny123

Reference to "The Big Bang Theory" TV show

Kommentar von Razzy1956

Blizzard is starting to drive me away. I am so freakin tired of getting quests and the quests don't indicate they have to be done a certain levels of dungeons or raids. For example, this professional bag quest. I went into the std instance and killed Moroes and zip....went out and voila, apparently since I didn't get the bag item I needed, I literally guess I have to do this in a dungeon....god only knows, because there are no groups for it available and I don't even know what level of dungeon/raid I would need if I am even guessing right about doing this in a group. I used to like working on a profession and that is part of the reason I pay these monthly dues to you Blizzard....but this blows. I can't tell you the number of times I have tried some quest only to find out LFR versus the "regular" RAID nomenclature has screwed me. Blizzard....listen up....ur taking part of the game away and making it difficult to even complete any parts of the regular game...Your about to lose a customer, wake up! Not everyone has the time to figure all this stuff out...we want to play, not read wowhead every 5 minutes to figure out what you want!

Kommentar von Marrim

Now available in Heroic mode with 7.2

Kommentar von warcanon

I'm surprised no one has mentioned The Big Bang Theory tv show and this quests name

Kommentar von Nayelly

How can I do this quest do I get a group or just go to a dangeon

Kommentar von thrugan

Ok I dropped Tailoring after i had done the quest for the bag the decided to pick up tailoring again my skill is almost back to 800. Anyone know how i will be able to get the recipe for the bag being that i have already done the quest once before?

Kommentar von jason555

Our whole universe was in a hot, dense state
Then nearly Hundreds thousands years ago expansion started, wait
Azeroth began to cool, the orcs began to settle
Ner’zhul raised the dead
We built Stowmwind (we built the Orgrimmar)
Engineering, alchemy, archeology, unraveling the mysteries
That all started with the big bag !

Kommentar von Socairnone

I have never agreed with having to do dungeons or raids at any level to progress a profession or for for anything else for that matter or gather materials.
Have them as alternative option to questing by all means but please take note not all of us want to do dungeons or raids ..whatever. Some of us like to play solo or as a small group we don't want to HAVE to do things we don't want to do the poor rewards are not relevant I do not want better rewards I for things I dont want to do.
and
On the subject of rewards... the reward for this quest chain and running kara twice as a 5 man is actually worse than a previous obtained item and it is harder to get the mats for it.

I do think blizz want us all to give up professions. The patterns are getting harder to obtain for the top end stuff as are the mats... WHY ON EARTH all Mats are not account bound is beyond me...
When you follow long quest chains to obtain the skill level required and the patterns needed what happens ...you find you can only wear a limited number of items crafted items even if you made them for that toon or for another toon on the same account ....WHAT IS THAT ABOUT? You also find that someone can come along and be carried through a raid or dungeon by friends or guildies and get better gear with no effort. Why is top level crafted gear not equal to the best of the gear obtainable in other ways?

Kommentar von Socairnone

Important to note especially by blizzard .... That the majority of this thread is complaining about the pattern quality.... not having at least 34 slots
having to do an previously near impossible to arrange mythic dungeon to get it ... it can at least now be done on heroic which is easier to queue for but still not popular
and the length of the quest chain and all the other necessary hoops to get through just to get a pattern.

Yet no-one is talking about the actual quest... shotcuts and recommendations of how to minimise the waste of time and avoid any meaningless combat nd other useful facts.

I wasted my time getting attuned for Kara AGAIN. Found out the hard way its the doorway around the back you have to fly to that you MUST use.

Wowhead too is seemingly losing its way.. there is often little that is actually of use in many threads these days.

Kommentar von SpaceKase

This s the most frustrating piece of %^&* quest ever... I keep trying to do it and my group just ignores my in dungeon finder, they just peed run through and completely ignore my pleading to clear to thew side to get the bag.. WHY THE %^&* WOULD YOU FORCE US TO DO A DUNGEON WITH OTHER PEOPLE, NOBODY GIVES A %^&*, they just ignore me and finish the dungeon and I'm SOL for my quest...

Kommentar von FixManTx

Just ran this on normal difficulty and completed the quest just fine.

Kommentar von ShortyElst

2nd attempt to complete this and the bag has not dropped on Heroic or Mythic. I'm at the actual part in the guide that tells me to complete this step of the tailoring chain, so I must have completed all the relevant prerequisites. Any ideas?

Kommentar von Kilrathi3

Having never been in Karazhan, I found i needed a set of rusty keys to get past doors.

Scrounging thru the db here, I found no direct reference for them,
but eventually discovered that they appear after killing the boss Moroes in the banquet room.
you only have the time to get them that the despawn is set to.. about a minute.

my 1st kill was in a corner, so.. the keys were not in view.
bring him on the main floor.

Kommentar von Sulis

After several weeks of trying to find the set of keys from Moroes - from which i did not succeed - I decided to attune the quests Khadgar and his mate were giving, standing at the entrance to Karazhan (Finite numbers and Corruption runs deep).
Turns out: the entrance of this quest is NOT at the backdoor at the bottom, wich i was led to believe from previous comments here, but at the LEFT END OF THE BRIDGE at 47,67!

Anyhow, a very helpful guide is right here on wowhead: Lower Karazhan Dungeon.

Rock on!

Kommentar von turkeyman

How do you get to this location as a max toon?

Kommentar von turkeyman

How do i do this as a boosted toon from BFA?

Kommentar von climber

Can this be solo-ed? As a lv50 frost mage I can manage the rest of the instance, but as I can only Ghost Trap one of Moroles' guests the rest of them just swarm me.

Kommentar von climber

I’ve solo’d my way through the Lower Dungeon, climbed the Broken Stair, defeated The Curator and gone through the portal behind him to the start of the Upper Dungeon. I defeated The Shade Of Midivh before calling it a day, trusting the posts which say that, when I re-enter the instance, I’d respawn in the Upper Dungeon rather than right back at the beginning.

But I don’t. From the bridge I’m back beneath The Broken Stair.

Is this how it’s supposed to work? If so, the whole of Kharazan, both Upper and Lower, would have to be done in a single session, which is ridiculous.

For some reason, going through the entrance on ground level also takes me straight to the Broken Stair.

Kommentar von ashlynrhys

I just finished this quest as a lvl 70 lock for my tailoring. Still works, it's not bugged at all, just if you're max level like me then you kill things too quickly. The strats mentioned al work. If you encounter Toe Knee, you can only get him to 50% because you need to trigger the other mob. With the final boss, wait a couple second before following him through, had my pet on passive durnig boss encounters, done on heroic.

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Rückkehr nach Karazhan: Die Tieftaschentheorie

Beschafft eine Tasche der tausend Fächer und eine Teufelssehnentasche aus Karazhan.

	Tasche der tausend Fächer (1)
	Teufelssehnentasche (1)

Beschreibung

<Name>, ich bin mir sicher, dass Ihr schon gehört habt, dass nur die Größe eines Beutels zählt. Ich bin nicht dieser Meinung. Ich glaube vielmehr, dass die Qualität eines Beutels ausschlaggebend ist.

Schaut Euch nur mal diese zerlumpten Dinge an Euch an. Darin wirkt Ihr... nun, so gewöhnlich.

Ich werde es Euch beweisen. In Karazhan gibt es angeblich einige Beutel, die fast unendlich viele Dinge aufnehmen können. Aber die Materialien, die für ihre Herstellung vonnöten sind, sind so... Nun, das werdet Ihr schon selbst sehen.

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Ihr erlernt:

	Machtgetränkte seidengewebte Tasche

Wenn du Folgendes im Spiel eingibst, kannst du überprüfen, ob du das schon abgeschlossen hast:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(44741))

Guides

Legion Tailoring Guide Profession Updates in Patch 7.1