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Kommentar von Aliok

Quest number 8 in the quest chain for the rogue legendary daggers. Starter quest is Bewährungsprobe.

Edit: Wowhead may not display it (YET) as part of the chain, but that doesn't mean I am incorrect. Please see this Wowhead guide.(##RESPBREAK##)16##DELIM##Sas148##DELIM##

Kommentar von 905526

So far getting 5-10 Gems per boss on Normal mode.

Kommentar von xnihilo

As of writing there is NO difference in droprate on Elementiumedelsteinformation for heroic or normal.
Bosses drop 1 on 10 man and 1-3 on 25 man. This is to allow multiple rogues in 25 man raids to acquire the daggers at a faster pace.

Edit: It was reported that 2 Clusters dropped from bosses on 25 man. Multiple sources have now reported that this can vary from 1 to 3 clusters per boss. 2 is still the average amount of clusters dropped from 25 man bosses.

Next quest in the chain is Der Spitzel von Karazhan.

Kommentar von 805867

Are the clusters for this lootable on LFR difficulty?

Kommentar von 354238

To summarize:

LFR: Drops nothing
10man: Drops 1 cluster guaranteed
25man: Drops 1 or 2 clusters.
10man hc: TBD
25man hc: TBD

Kommentar von Kinetika

creatures mean all trash or only bosses? i rly dont get, if thats just trash then will be heavy trash farming for this, if bosses then will be slowly quest finish with 333 pieces :D

Kommentar von 919223

•There can be between three to nine gems in each Elementium Gem Cluster, averaging out to six per boss.
•On average, it will take 52 bosses on 10-player mode (6.5 clears) and 28 bosses on 25-player mode (3.5 clears) to finish this quest. If only one rogue is getting both Elementium Gem Clusters in 25-player mode.

Kommentar von LuckyGhoul

Our first rogue just finished this last raid lockout. He killed 6 bosses on 25m first week, 1 on 10m. (2 clusters on 25, 1 from 10) The next 3 weeks he killed all 8 bosses on 25m and got 2 clusters per boss.

His final clusters from Deathwing contained the last shadowy Gems he needed. So, on average, he got about 5.4 gems per cluster.

16 clusters x 3 weeks = 48 + 13 clusters = 61
333 gems/61 clusters = 5.459 gems per cluster

Obviously your mileage may vary.

Kommentar von 954792

Dear Blizz, the Shadowy Gems in Cluster Clutch should be obtainable in PvP as well ! Maybe just slim it down to just in Tol Barad, but Somewhere in Pvp !

Kommentar von nakata9559

The eighth quest of the chain to obtain Golad, Zwielicht der Aspekte and Tiriosh, Alptraum der Zeitalter, Fänge des Urvaters.

Proving Your Worth
A Hidden Message
To Ravenholdt
To Catch a Thief
Our Man in Gilneas
Assassinate Creed
The Deed is Done, Rewards - Furcht and Rache
Cluster Clutch
Our Man in Karazhan
Blood of the Betrayer
Victory in the Depths, Rewards - Der Schläfer and Der Träumer
Sharpening Your Fangs
Patricide, Rewards - Golad, Zwielicht der Aspekte and Tiriosh, Alptraum der Zeitalter, Fänge des Urvaters

Kommentar von skoorb

I have been extremely unlucky thus far with my Rogue on this quest chain. After 10 boss kills I have only collected 41 Shadowy Gems. That's an average of 4.1 gems per boss. At this rate it will be another 7.3 weeks before I'm able to obtain Der Schläfer & Der Träumer.

Kommentar von Oneknight1984

I'm not sure if anyone else has asked this, but do you have to have either/both Fear & Vegeance equipped in order for the shadow cluster to drop or just have to have the daggers in your bag and the quest to obtain the shadow cluster?

Kommentar von 907542

Sadly rogue is at 332/333 SG after last week. Can I not hand in after Morchok this coming week and the Elementium Gem Clusters I loot on subsequent bosses will be counted in the 60 I need for Sharpening Your Fangs when I get it later? Or do I need to stop after morchok when I get 333/333 hand in and do the subsequent quests before killing more bosses that will give me that will count towards Sharpening Your Fangs?

Kommentar von AngelSword

Cutting and collecting the Schattenhafter Edelsteins from this contribute towards your guild's Meisterhandwerker progress.

Kommentar von mdunlap0872

Just ran dragon soul on 25 man normal and got 2 Elementiumedelsteinformation from each boss. After opening all 16, I ended up with 97 Schattenhafter Edelstein.

Kommentar von alphabit

Here are the statistics I recorded doing this quest over the last 4 weeks - judging by the numbers you should expect 4 weeks to be the right length (talking specifically about 25 Heroic) though you may be unlucky and have it carry over to a 5th week.

Dragon Soul (25 Heroic) Cluster and Gem drops for me:

week 1 clusters) 2,1,2,2,2,2,2,2 = 15
week 1 gems) 5,5,4,6,5,5,6,5,6,7,6,6,5,6,5 = 82/333 (+82 gems)
week 2 clusters) 2,2,2,2,1,2,2,2 = 15
week 2 gems) 7,5,7,3,5,6,5,5,6,5,5,6,6,6,5 = 164/333 (+82 gems)
week 3 clusters) 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 = 16
week 3 gems) 6,5,3,6,6,6,6,5,6,8,5,4,5,6,5,5 = 251/333 (+87 gems)
week 4 clusters) 1,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 = 15
week 4 gems) 6,6,3,4,7,5,5,6,7,6,8,8,6,6,(spare) = 334/333 (+83 gems with a spare cluster left over)

Kommentar von Dialapali

Today did Heroic 10 man and recieved the following breakup
8 Elementiumedelsteinformation that broke down into
8. 4. 5. 4. 6. 3. 6. 5.

For a total of 41 Schattenhafter Edelstein. Judging by previous posts looking at doing 25H next week to see if its double the amount of clusters that drop. Will update post after next reset with a break up.

Kommentar von aydinz

Be aware that while other comments say you can keep gathering clusters for further on in the quest chain if you don't want to abort mid raid, that this only possibly applies to actual clusters as any and all shadowy gems you have in your inventory will be removed when you turn the quest in, whether you have 333 or 900 you will end up with an empty slot in your bag.

Kommentar von Calucias

I made a video on how to get these daggers the quickest way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSSnSxvOmI4

Kommentar von streathh

First Week: 25Hero dropped 14 Cluster for 77 Gems for me

Kommentar von alexje19

Just a heads up for those wanting to go through this long questline.
You can do this with other weapons equipped.
You don't have to equip the Legendary Daggers from the Quest themselves.

Kommentar von Vandiel01

Note: If you have another Rogue with you, also working on this chain. All Rogue will have to roll for the Elementiumedelsteinformation drop, hence will slow down the collection of the quest item. Recommended to solo the DS (if you're geared) to collect them.

Kommentar von RolandAllen

I gathered the following data about the Elementiumedelsteinformation/Schattenhafter Edelstein drops in 25 Heroic. The missing data from the first two weeks means that I already killed that first bosses and I didn't bother to kill that last ones. Of course you can complete that part of the questline within 4 weeks. The last Cluster needed for me was dropped from the Spine encounter. I saved the last two Cluster for the next step.

Week 1	Week 2	Week 3	Week 4	Week 5
Morchok	1/6	2/11	2/9	2/9
Kriegsherr Zon'ozz	2/12	2/12	2/10	2/11
Yor'sahj der Unermüdliche	2/12	2/14	2/15	2/10
Hagara die Sturmbinderin	2/10	2/10	2/9	2/9	2/13
Ultraxion	1/5	2/12	2/14	2/13	2/14
Kriegsmeister Schwarzhorn	2/13	2/10	2/13	2/10	2/9
Spine of Deathwing		2/11	2/11	1/6
Madness of Deathwing		1/5	1/5	2/0
5/28	11/62	15/89	15/82	15/72

Kommentar von xLunacyx

Keep in mind you can only run one version of dragon soul per week, so might as well make sure it's heroic for the handmaiden mount. (blazing and experiment will drop from any non-lfr difficulty)
Ended my first week at 45/333

Kommentar von Bigfudge561

Today, 8/24/24 I handed in this quest and it removed all the additional Shadow Gems I had from my inventory. Was only 7 short when I went into the instance today and figured I would clear it all since I had read that any extra cluster would remain in your inventory and you will need an additional 60 for the second to last quest. After clearing the raid I finished this quest and all my remaining gems have vanished to my dismay :/ I am assuming maybe I was not supposed to open the cluster but I dont recall reading any warning about this but maybe I hadnt read closely enough.

I have put in a ticket, will update when I get a response.

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Sammelt 333 schattenhafte Edelsteine durch das Plündern von Elementiumedelsteinformationen von den Kreaturen in der Drachenseeleninstanz.

	Schattenhafter Edelstein (333)

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Die Dolche, die ich Euch gegeben habe, sind leblose Hüllen. Doch sie vermögen Großes zu vollbringen, wenn sie erst einmal in der Lage sind, die Art Macht zu speichern, an die ich denke.

Ihr müsst für mich Schattenedelsteine finden. Die Oberfläche dieser außergewöhnlichen Steine ist wie ein Fenster in die Unendlichkeit. Oftmals werden sie von Dienern des Schattenhammers benutzt, um die mächtigsten aller Elementare zu kontrollieren.

Am Wyrmruhtempel tobt eine erbitterte Schlacht. Sammelt Elementiumedelsteine von Todesschwinges Dienern und bringt sie mir.

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/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(30107))

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