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Kommentar von 1029407

Feng? I was calling you "Fang" this whole time.

Kommentar von Epicskillz

Oh. My. God.

I am really looking forward to fight Dolgdjohn Jiknhlfnhsomething. I actually wish this weren't a placeholder..
"LFM MSV, We're at Jiknhlfnhsomething, ready to summon!"

Edit:
During MOP early beta, the achievement for this raid (Die Wächter von Mogu'shan ) text was saying

Criteria:

Quilin Guard slain
Trollwerk slain
Celestial Serpent slain
Dolgdjohn Jiknhlfnhsomething slain
Four Kings slain
Terracotta Army slain

Quilin Guard must be the PH name for Amethystwächter
Trollwerk must be Gara'jal der Geisterbinder
Celestial Serpent Elegon
Four Kings Zian des endlosen Schattens (or rather this link is to one of them)
Terracotta Army are most likely the PH name for Jan-xi

Leaving only this boss to be blessed with the glorious name he had as placeholder.

Kommentar von Teerai

When the blue crystal object is clicked, an extra button appears on the taker's UI.
When used on a raid member, a ~10 sec channel starts. Channeler must stand still and the target raid member must be within range (not sure, feels like 20 yards).
If the target receives a debuff during the channel, the channel will stop and you will be able to cast the debuff on an enemy target (boss) with the button.
CD is ~20sec.
As offtank I generally used it on the main tank. In phase 1 I stole Lightning Lash, in phase 2 Flaming Spear and in phase 3 Arcane shock. This was a huge dps increase (#2-3 on damage done in 10man).
Pretty cool feature.

Kommentar von 3xul

This is the tactic which worked out for our 10 man raid today:

The boss is a 3 phase encounter, which trigger randomly at 99%, 66% and 33% with the phases and some abilities which are the same by function but differ in the elemental type.

At the beginning of the fight two blue shards will spawn, granting the tanks an additional ability:

Nullifikationsbarriere negates some effects of Epizentrum, Wildfeuerfunke and Arkane Geschwindigkeit.
Wolke der Umkehrung works similar to Dark Simulacrum, but an allied unit must be the target and it copies the spell, which hit the target.

Each tank can just take one ability.

The three different phases are:

This is how we killed the boss on our second try that evening: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-gylMS1Tdk&feature=BFa&list=PLHs1z6wAbUQDtrnOqLC6ggsBqTuMn2qKG
Please do note that those tactics described above are the result of the mistakes we made in our two tries and therefore some of those mechanics are not precisely executed like written above. (Mostly Flamme anziehen since we adapted to this mechanic dynamicly and got more absorbs as necessary.)

Changes in heroic:
The boss has an additional phase and the phases start at 100%, 75%, 50% and 25%. It is now possible to choose the order of those phases by tanking Feng close to the statue holding the corresponding weapon. With each phase, Feng gets a buff called Stärke des Geistes increasing his damage by an additional 5%. As a result of this you want to do the high damage phases at the beginning, because staff would most likely just kill you with the buff stacked too high.

The abilities of the additional phase are:

Shield (Shadow)
1. He casts in intervalls greater than 20 seconds Schattenbrand on the tank, which is a stacking debuff with the same mechanic all phases above have.
2. Feng will toss his Entziehender Schild at a random side of the room, creating a voidzone and leaving the shield at this position. In addition the shield tears the soul of every player out, causing Seelenfragment to slowly move towards the shield. Those adds have to be killed as soon as possible, because when they reach the shield they get absorbed. After all Seelenfragment are gone (killed or absorbed), Feng equips his shield again and is healed for 10% of his HP per soul absorbed. In addition those fragments will get drawn into the shield, if they are alive for too long.
3. Schattenhafte Ketten is an unavoidable shadow chain lightning, with infinite jump range, dealing moderate damage.
To handle this phase the raid should stack in the center of the room, which improves the time you have to react to Entziehender Schild and run away to the other side of the room, in order to create maximum range to the shield and have the fragments stacked up for better bomb damage. Those Seelenfragment have the absolute priority and every possible slow/stun should be used to prevent them from moving. A Death Knight can realy shine here with and Blutschattens Griff.
Every second shield should be annulated with Nullifikationsbarriere by either letting despawn all Seelenfragment or despawning the shield and shortly after the fragments are gone too. This healps a lot to shorten this phase since the DDs have more time to do damage at the boss.

We killed Feng with the following order:

Staff (Arcane)
Shield (Shadow)
Fists (Lightning)
Spear (Fire)

A video of our heroic kill can be found here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qDqKsOBwxM

Kommentar von 969637

I havent seen this mentioned yet but in phase one if you are not worried about dps the offtank with the Shroud of Reversal can steal lightning fists and then use it on the boss to interupt epicenter. this way our group Barrierd one interputed the next Barrierd the one after etc, this takes good timing by the offtank but cuts down the healing requirement of phase one allowing healers to save mana and CD's for the later phases.

edit: i forgot to mention this will involve the tank NOT dodging Lightning fists and your healers should be ready for this

Kommentar von Zulkiar

The dark blue crystal is the Shroud of Reversal, and the light blue crystal is the Nullification Barrier.

The Shroud has a 30 second CD, and the Barrier has a 60 second CD.

Kommentar von Icetor

Warrior tanks are fantastic for barrier in the first phase of this fight. They can heroic leap to the raid, leaving only the slow melee and the off-tank unguarded in the first ticks of Epicenter.

The achievement in this boss is called Alles, was du kannst, das kann ich viel besser! One drawback to this achievement is that if you are using the strat that calls for interruption with fists of lightning, you will have to sacrifice one stun in order to capture and use epicenter (whenever you copy epicenter, he will cast it again before the CD allows you to get a fists of lightning copy.) Every other ability is easy to copy, provided you pay attention to raid frames or DBM callouts.

Kommentar von Eachon

The tank who will steal the buff must use a macro to guarantee the steal.

/tar NameOfTheTank
/click ExtraActionButton1
/targetlasttarget

Use this macro as soon as you see boss casting Lightning Fist. Then you will have no problems with stealing it. We failed too much acquiring the stun buff. After this macro, we never missed a single stun.

But boss does his abilities on random orders. Sometimes he didn't cast any Lightning Fists. You must be prepared for those situations.(##RESPBREAK##)16##DELIM##hatman555##DELIM##

Kommentar von iMathias

Be aware that the tank abilities Nullifikationsbarriere & Wolke der Umkehrung are channeled. Do not move after clicking the button or the spell will be canceled.

Kommentar von Fylwind

In heroic difficulty, the tank should drag Feng to the correct statue at 100%, 75%, 50%, and 25% so that he will activate the weapons in the order desired. The mechanics are virtually the same aside from the high damage and the addition of a new phase: Geist des Schildes.

Shield (Shadow)
1. Tank swap at 2-3 stacks of Schattenbrand.
2. Every 30 sec, Feng will toss his Entziehender Schild onto the side of the room. The shield will then tear out a soul from every player, which then slowly walks towards the shield. If any soul reaches the shield, it will be absorbed. In addition, there is a timer: after a certain amount of time, all the souls will be instantly absorbed by the shield regardless of proximity to the shield, so you cannot hold the souls indefinitely. Once all the souls are absorbed or destroyed, the boss will re-equip his shield, healing himself for each soul absorbed.
3. Schattenhafte Ketten will deal some moderate raid damage to players. The damage does not amplify with each arc so it is still safe stack up.
The tank should initially tank Feng at the center of the room since he will never throw his shield at the center. Once the Entziehender Schild is dropped, there will be a few seconds of grace period that the players can use to run away from the shield, but be sure to stay as stacked as possible. (Alternatively, the raid can just stand in the center and use more crowd-control.)

The adds can be stunned, slowed, snared, gripped, and pushed back. Using Blutschattens Griff to stack up all the adds is a good idea. However, remember that there is still a limited amount of time so no matter how good your crowd-control is, the adds must still die quickly.

If a soul touches the Nullifikationsbarriere, it will despawn, so it can be used to avoid killing every other wave of souls. Wolke der Umkehrung can be used to copy his Schattenhafte Ketten, which can be used to help DPS the adds.

Kommentar von 920002

I have seen some glitches with this fight that can make it very difficult on your healers especially for a raid team that may have some members still working on gearing up. Here are some tips that I have found that helped our team.

P1 is simple once your tanks get the barrier/interrupt rotation down and providing the boss actually does a fist at least once between Epicenters so the interrupt tank can steal the buff. We did find that moving the boss as little as possible does seem to greatly increase the odds of getting at least one cast of fists between Epicenter casts.

Here are a couple tips that seem to help us with P2. Try to position your entire raid on one half of the platform and dump the sparks on the other side.

1. Make sure your raid members know not to touch other flame patches as they move over to dump their sparks.

2. I have seen people moving in a straight line when their spark dumps and it can actually dump in front of them so if they are moving forward they walk right through the flame patch they just dumped. I tell my guys to move until they are about 3 to 4 seconds into the timer then stop let it hit the ground and quickly move out.

3. During draw flame have the entire raid move back away from the boss on the side with no flame patched and wait until he is finished with his channeled cast. The flames that get to the boss early will sit under his feet until he is done with his channel so if your melee are attempting to dps during this part they will cause more stacks. Everyone move away.

4. Call pets back or if you have a pet that is not controllable dismiss them during P2 as the logs show that pets can trigger more patches so this means more stacks.

5. Use the nullification barrier on the 2nd and 4th draw flame so you do not go into P3 with excess stacks. If you see 5 or 6 draw flames you are going to have issues with the timer.

6. The tank with the barrier buff should stand directly on the boss when channeling, if you are a little off to the side he can still get stacks and/or if your melee decide to stay and dps during this part they could get hit by any patches that are not absorbed which again will cause more stacks.

P3 is fairly simple as long as your team has decent movement skills. If you have a member or two that is slow on their reaction time this phase can go from simple to very difficult really quickly. He seems to always target a ranged or healer with AR no matter on your position. I recommend tanking the boss at the P3 starting spot. Everyone should have a /range 6 up so when a person gets hit with Arcane Resonance they do not blow up the raid. Space ranged and heals around in a semi-circle. When he starts to cast Arcane Velocity everyone accept those that may still have the AR debuff collapse on the boss. With about 1-2 seconds left on the AV channel everyone should start moving back to their spots so if he casts AR right after the AV channel people are spread out.

We use Bloodlust during P2 to make sure we get through that phase as quickly as possible. The tank with the Shroud of Reversal buff should copy Flaming Spear during P2 to maximize dps during that phase. During P3 I have seen them copy both Arcane Shock and Arcane Velocity to maximize dps. If they are going to copy Arcane Velocity make sure they do not cast it on the boss until just before the groups stacks up to maximize the damage he receives as it appears to do more damage to him depending on the amount of people standing next to him.

Like I said at the start this fight can be a pain depending on how the boss behaves during the encounter and also if your team has decent reaction skills.

I hope this helps as I have seen a lot of teams being stuck on this boss!

Kommentar von Ninja812

All these posts are for tanks, what about dps? I went in this morning and died several times.
From what I am gathering here, if the tank does his job correctly, dps should just burn him down..right?

Kommentar von 986144

No target swapping rquired

/click ExtraActionButton1

I'm pretty sure the command is targettarget however it may be targetstarget, im pretty sure someone more accomplished in macros can correct me if im wrong.

Kommentar von 1057080

After testing alot of different macros, I decided to make one of my own..

/tar ; OtherTanksName
/Click ExtraActionButton1
/targetlasttarget

This will allow you to dps the boss, but when you see the cast you get to steal the ability without loosing your target. This macro works just as good in his AOE phases (he doesnt target any1).

You do need to click the extra actionbutton to use the stolen ability. But this steals the ability no matter who is tanking.

This also allows you to Oftank the boss whenever you feel the need to dump debuffs from other tank.

Kommentar von Grim32

As of 5.1 thankfully lightning fist is no longer RNG & actually follows a cooldown. Making Phase one MUCH easier for everyone, less mana used, less moving, etc.

Kommentar von geodus

We were having a real problem with getting the Shroud of Reversal to work with Blitzende Fäuste. The OT (me) would use the Shroud button on the MT, but never get the stolen spell. We realized that the MT wasn't getting stunned by Blitzende Fäuste, and thinking that maybe he was inadvertently dodging the ability, we tried using it on our paladin healer. Same problem, and the healer reported not getting stunned either.

On a whim, we tried rotating Feng sideways so he wasn't facing the outer barrier. Success! We're able to steal Blitzende Fäuste almost every time, and almost don't even need Nullification Barrier on phase 1. It seems that there is some kind of bug with Blitzende Fäuste when Feng is facing the outer wall that prevents it from hitting a target. This can be exploited somewhat by the tank with the Shroud of Reversal; when it's their turn to tank the boss (and they already have a stolen Blitzende Fäuste sitting on their extra action bar), they can tank Feng facing the outer wall and not have to worry about avoiding the fists since it won't hit them.

Kommentar von PrairieChicken

In heroic he will always throw shield to his left (he holds shield in left arm)

So your raid formation should be like

(OOOOOOOOOOOO Tank OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO)
(OOOOOOOOOOOO ↑(See this direction) OOOOOOO)
(Shield OOOOOO Feng (middle of room) OOOOO Raid)

Normally you will see 3~4 shields. The way to cope is

1. Immediately use Nullifikationsbarriere
2. Snare and root the adds (don't attack). The Nullifikationsbarriere will come back before adds are absorbed, so use it when cooldown is over. Focus on boss
3. Kill the adds. Of course use any snares, roots, ccs available
4. Nullifikationsbarriere (If you see fourth shield)

Kommentar von aaglo

A strange thing happened to my hunter on this encounter - in raid finder.

My weapon somehow just lost all the durability (to 0/100). None of my other gear was low on durability (at about 80/100). This happened during third phase of the encounter.

Yes, I had repaired my gear prior to the raid finder event.
Has anyone else experienced anything like this before in this encounter?

Kommentar von Ebonclad

So, here's a anecdote of a pretty niche but quite amusing little quirk of spell mechanics.

Realising that my Disorienting Roar wasn't affecting the Heroic mode adds, I respecced into Ursol's Vortex. For the unaware, Ursol's Vortex is a ground-targetable effect you place which slows mobs that move through it, and the first time they try to leave it, pulls them back to its centre.

Naturally, the rest of the entire raid was also doing their utmost to stop the adds from reaching the shield, including our shaman knocking them back once they got too close to it with Thunderstorm.

Turns out, these two things interact wonderfully counterproductively - the Vortex taking the punted adds and dragging them all the way back to its centre, death grip style. It was pretty funny when I realised what was happening, but now I know to save Vortex until after the Thunderstorm punt, if needed.

Kommentar von mienvard

This is probably useless for most of you, but I've been having a hard time finding models for the current bosses and have spent some time chasing them down in WoW Model Viewer 0.7.0.5-mingw3.

I believe the correct settings for Feng the Accursed is as follows:
Use model mogu.m2
Select the first "Mogu1Blue" skin (not "MOGU1BLUE")
Enable geoset 0,1,2,3,4,6,7,15 and 18.

What the model looks like with these settings:
http://wowimg.zamimg.com/uploads/guide/images/2287.jpg

I'm currently working on getting the rest of the bosses down as well as compiling this info in a short guide and will update this post accordingly.

Kommentar von Meaumom

I Was In Theat Dungeon And Can't Beat Him He Is To Strong ;0

Kommentar von Crucifixxor

Many people think that Lightning Fists is bugged and won't stun the boss. If you believe this you may actually be stealing Lightning Lash as opposed to Lightning Fists. I would recommend downloading recount if you don't have it and checking what Reversals you used.

Kommentar von havoc777

When Feng says "Oh sage of the ages! Instill to me your arcane wisdom" is he referring to a Titan or something different? When I heard him say it I instantly though Norgannon .

Kommentar von padmanek

Soloed by 688 Combat Rogue.
Just nuke.
Keep Recuperate on with Glyph of Recovery & Leeching Poison.
Use Comabt Readiness for the last 30-20%. Evasion if needed.

Kommentar von Araitik

Mage solo - Feng the Accursed 10 man Heroic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0CdxAyPzIg

Enjoy :)

Kommentar von leowow

Its quite tough to solo for a shadow priest. Sometimes he begins to hit really hard.

Kommentar von skyline33

Just soloed him on 10M normal as a shockadin :) 690 iL

Kommentar von 1582243

how i can see the id model of mobs for wowmodelviewer ? thanks

Kommentar von cstober2010

After gearing up a bit in Legion, I wanted to test out 25m Heroic Mogu'shan Vaults. Level 110 Fury Warrior ilvl 828. It wasn't as faceroll as I had hoped lol. You can solo this, it will just take some time.

Feng the Accursed is simple. I do not believe you'll run into any mechanics that will give you a hard time. He has about 16mil HP so try not to fall asleep lol.

I was under the impression that raids that are two expansions below us would be considered legacy and we get a bonus to damage -- however, this is not the case. In MoP, our damage remains unchanged (compared to Legion).

Kommentar von cstober2010

10m Heroic MSV -- Level 104 Windwalker Monk i728

Solo'd this boss along with the entire raid with ease. If you're lower level, just be sure to use defensives and you should be okay. At this level, most of these fights are DPS races because you do take a lot more damage than you would at 110. Generally on these fights I was peaking 350k and ending 150k. Ended at 300k on Stone Guard. WW Monks are OP...But still, 10m heroic is incredibly easy.

Kommentar von skimpy

I ran through stealthed (rogue) and nothing seemed active, no boss. Had to unstealth and touch (run through) all the statues in order to disturb/aggro them.

Kommentar von Macamirunni

Be careful about burning him down too fast on Normal mode, or else you may get trapped inside the boss area. Also, you may not be able to progress further into the raid even if you leave and return.

Kommentar von TheZoog

To activate the fight you must stand on the first two statues in the Golden Hall. Just stand near them and they will wake up.

Kommentar von pokcmvmxckm

"This is not the last we have seen of Feng..." -Lorewalker Cho, the last time we saw Feng.

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Feng der Verfluchte <Hüter der Champion-Geister>

Dieser NPC befindet sich in Mogu'shangewölbe .

Bosskampfkompendium

Heroisch		Mythisch
Tödlich		Wichtig
Tank		DPS
Heiler		Unterbrechbar
Magie		Fluch
Gift		Krankheit
Berserker

Geistblitz – Feng der Verfluchte entfesselt eine Salve Geistblitze, die 3 beliebigen Spielercharakteren 2085 Schattenschaden zufügen.
[Normal und Heroisch] Im 25-Spieler-Modus schleudert Feng der Verfluchte Geistbolzen auf 8 beliebige Spielercharaktere.
Stärke des Geistes – Mit jedem Mal, das Feng einen Champion-Geist der Mogu absorbiert, erhöht sich sein verursachter Schaden für die verbleibende Dauer der Begegnung um 5%.

Essenz der Champion-Geister

Bei 95%, 66% und 33% verbleibender Gesundheit entzieht Feng einer vorher gewählten Statue eines Championgeists der Vergangenheit die Essenz und erhält so ihren Segen.

[Heroisch] Feng entzieht der ihm am nächsten stehenden Statue ca. 100%, 75%, 50% und 25%.

Geist der Faust
- Blitzpeitsche – Fengs mit Blitzen aufgeladene Fäuste verpassen seinem aktuellen Ziel einen Schlag und verursachen normalen Schaden als Naturschaden plus 20 sec lang alle 2 Sek. 790 Naturschaden.
- Blitzende Fäuste – Feng schlägt mit einer blitzgeladenen Faust auf dem Boden und entfesselt so eine Schockwelle vor sich, die 68 Naturschaden verursacht und alle, die in ihren Weg geraten, betäubt.
- Blitzende Fäuste – Feng rammt eine mit Blitzenergie aufgeladene Faust in den Boden, verursacht 1580 Naturschaden und sendet 3 Schockwellenimpulse vor ihm aus. Die Schockwelle verursacht 68 Naturschaden und betäubt alle Ziele in ihrem Weg.
- Epizentrum – Feng kanalisiert ein gewaltiges Erdbeben, das Naturschaden verursacht, der im Epizentrum des Bebens am höchsten ist und die Trefferchance des Spielercharakters um 75% verringert.
Geist des Speers
Geist des Stabs
- Arkaner Schock – Fengs arkanerfüllter Stab verpasst seinem aktuellen Ziel einen Schock und verursacht normalen Arkanschaden plus 20 sec lang alle 2 Sek. 790 Arkanschaden.
- Arkane Geschwindigkeit – Feng kanalisiert einen arkanen Sturm, der alle 1 Sek. sämtlichen Gegnern 1090 Arkanschaden zufügt. Je weiter die Ziele von Feng entfernt sind, umso mehr Schaden fügen die Blitze des Sturms ihnen zu.
- Arkane Resonanz – Feng lädt beliebige Spielercharaktere mit arkaner Resonanz auf, die allen Verbündeten im Umkreis von 6 Metern 316 Arkanschaden zufügt. Jeder zusätzliche betroffene Spielercharakter erhöht den bei allen verursachten Schaden um 316.
Geist des Schildes
- Schattenbrand – Feng verbrennt die Seele seines aktuellen Ziels und verursacht normalen Schaden als Schattenschaden plus 20 sec lang alle 2 Sek. 790 Schattenschaden.
- Entziehender Schild – Fengs verfluchter Schild zieht die Seelen von 10 zufällig ausgewählten Gegnern an, um ihn mit jeder absorbierten Seelen um 5% seiner gesamten Gesundheit zu heilen.
- Entziehender Schild – Fengs verfluchter Schild zieht die Seelen von 5 zufällig ausgewählten Gegnern an, um ihn mit jeder absorbierten Seelen um 10% seiner gesamten Gesundheit zu heilen.
- Schattenhafte Ketten – Feng schlägt mit schattenhaften Ketten nach einem beliebigen Spielercharakter, der sie auf einen in der Nähe befindlichen Spielercharakter überspringen lässt. Die Kette zieht bis zu 3 Ziele in Mitleidenschaft und fügt jedem weiteren Ziel mit geringerer Wirksamkeit Schattenschaden zu.

Geraubte Steinessenzen

Spielercharaktere in einer Schutzrolle erhalten Zugriff auf die von den erweckten Statuen hinterlassenen Essenzsplitter.

Nullifikationsbarriere – Spielercharaktere mit dieser geraubten Steinessenz können sich 6 sec lang mit einer kanalisierten Nullifikationsbarriere umgeben. Die Barriere neutralisiert jegliche auf Spielercharaktere innerhalb der Barriere gewirkten schädlichen Effekte.
Die Barriere macht außerdem schädliche Umgebungseffekte wie 'Wildfeuer' und 'Blitzladung' unwirksam.
Nullifikationsbarriere – Spielercharaktere mit dieser geraubten Steinessenz können sich 6 sec lang mit einer kanalisierten Nullifikationsbarriere umgeben. Die Barriere neutralisiert jegliche auf Spielercharaktere innerhalb der Barriere gewirkten schädlichen Effekte.
Die Barriere macht außerdem schädliche Umgebungseffekte wie 'Wildfeuer', 'Schattenschild' und 'Blitzladung' unwirksam.
Wolke der Umkehrung – Spielercharaktere mit dieser geraubten Steinessenz können einen Verbündeten mit einer Hülle der Umkehr umgeben. Dadurch kann der Spielercharakter den nächsten schädlichen Effekt, der den Verbündeten trifft, imitieren.

Feng der Verfluchte <Hüter der Champion-Geister>

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