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Comment by dillybar

This is an available haste buff from the trinket Ruby Whelp Shell.

This particular buff can be attained on the trinket by going into the Gladiator's Refuge in Valdrakken.

Stand in the middle of the "Training Dummy" Healing (they glow brownish orange, there are five of them).

Use the Ruby Whelp Shell, the whelpling will come out and train, and you can do it again in 24 hours.

If you do this six times you will have the maximum haste buff you can get from the trinket. I have yet to finish the training so I don't have the numbers yet, when I do I'll come back and edit this post.

If you have questions about the other 5 available buffs, go to the item page and read in the comments, there's some very good info there.

EDIT: I have fully trained the trinket, it's just not that great.

396 BM Hunter. 389 Ruby Whelp Shell

I trained "Under Red Wings" all the way to 6, using all the training sessions to get the haste buff.

To do so I used the healing dummies in the Gladiator area in Valdrakken, stood in the midst of them, with my pet out, targeted myself, then clicked the trinket to train.

I tried the trinket all week long at leach level of training, 1 through 6, on proc it would deliver 2707 haste for 12 seconds. That is significant.

Problem is: It does not proc enough.

I kept thinking perhaps it needed to be all the way trained up to 6 to proc more?

And no, that didn't help either. Upon the final 6th training session, I decided to do some dedicated simming on the training dummies.

I do a lot of 2 minute sims. Yes boss fights are longer, but in mythic plus your longest trash pulls aren't even 2 minutes long. Same with raid trash. So it's just as important to have a shorter determination as to what gear works best, especially trinkets.

On multiple 2 minute sims, the best I could do, both trying the AOE and single raid dummies, was 1 proc per two minutes.

Worse yet, on 1 out of 3 of those sims, it didn't proc.

2707 haste for 12 seconds at best once every two minutes. That means the trinket was up for 10% of the time. An overly simplified way of looking at that means it is 271 haste per second if spread out over the entire 2 minute pull.

To put that into perspective, a level 376 Shikaari Huntress' Arrowhead averages being up 45% of the time, giving out 862 mastery on high level targets. That works out to 388 mastery per second over the two minute pull.

The reason I say "over simplified" is that a simple "per second" spread out comparison does not take into account:
- multiple pulls on trash
- boss mechanics that require dropping aggro on the boss for whatever reason
- matching up with your best ability cooldowns
- or a host of other more complicated scenarios that can occur.

When you take those into account, such a limited number of procs is even worse. You want to have the maximum uptime of usable stats, and this simply does not provide it.

I'm not going to go all out and call this a garbage trinket, because maybe there is more to be explored. Maybe having 2 points in 3 different areas is the better path to having more procs? Remains to be seen.

Comment by ArkealQ

See the other comment on HOW - but worth noting YOU HAVE TO TARGET YOURSELF FIRST! ELSE IT WONT WORK AND WILL GIVE YOU THE WRONG THING. Could have used that information before wasting a day!

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