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评论来自
201281
Leave it to a gnome to make a tool for suicide. I wouldn't expect less from a race that blew up their own city.
评论来自
50570
I hope this is going to be used by both Engi trees can use it looks fun.
评论来自
hiddendragon
I hope this will be a instant-cast
评论来自
NightmareMJ
the upgraded version of the gnomish death ray....far more powerful....to both you and your target...
And it seems as with the death ray it will not require engineering to keep.
评论来自
Herbert
Gnomes... The only race who are born with a natural death wish... Don't you just love it?
评论来自
Zaphiroth
Can you use it while divine shield is up ?
评论来自
Carighan
Can anyone test whether this scales in any way?
Since the trinket misses any other stats, it seems comparatively weak in damage unless it'd be scaling. Even for burst-purposes.
评论来自
faia
This entire device is made of metal....
damn they just genius
评论来自
Kramp
Somebody tried this item underwater ?
评论来自
182830
Facts:
1 second cast
1.5 min cooldown
Rarely it hits both you and your enemy
I tried using it underwater, the bolt just hit creature as usual
No idea if it can crit.
评论来自
242170
Can anyone test the effects on using it with spell reflect up?
评论来自
Windwalk
It can crit, and does so frequently for me (on my shaman, who has fairly high crit, and +5% to lightning crit, which might factor in).
It backfires frequently. I would estimate about a 10% backfire rate. Damages you with a lightning bolt from above in addition to the target.
Overall, it's the only decent addition to engineering. A 1 sec cast on a 1 sec GCD for a high amount of damage adds a decent amount of burst.
-The rocket enchant to gloves is lackluster because it's on the GCD.
-The haste enchant to gloves is fairly minor, but has some value.
-The rocket boots enchant is okay, but you miss out on the passive run speed from an enchant if you don't get a meta for it.
-The parachute cloak requires giving up a stat enchant (in that case, swap in the actual parachute cloak with half the cooldown).
评论来自
jason15ju
ive used this while using divine shield, so far no ill side effects...
in fact, the warrior i used it on seemed rather shocked when i crit him for 5652...lol
评论来自
251067
Indeed this item can crit. So far I've seen mine crit over 5k, as jason15ju said. In case anyone wonders, it only hits one target, and can be used while you have global cooldowns as a little "boost". Nice little trinket, aint gonna unequip it for a long time. It makes leveling easier aswell, especially if your out of mana, and the mob is on low hp.
评论来自
saibot
Little Info About the DPS on this: Now, if my math are correct, this should give you a ~40-50 DPS increase if you pop it on
every
cooldown, assuming it's not affected by miss rate.
The math for this conclusion are:
(2610 + 3190) / 2 =
2900
average damage per use.
2900 / 59 =
49,15
average DPS, excluding the 1 second cast time from the cooldown, and assuming it doesn't backfire.
If we try to factor the backfire in, which taking for granted that is 10%, and assuming it doesn't do any damage at all while backfiring, which is the worst case scenario, you lose ~
4
DPS from it.
Optional: If you're a retribution paladin (only factored this because I play one), you can raise the damage by 9% since you will most likely have 3 stacks of vengeance up -- and should have before using it:
2900 * 1.09 =
3161
average damage per use.
3161 / 59 =
53,57
average DPS.
If you want you can add to Vengeance, Avenging Wrath for burst damage:
2900 * 1.29 =
3741
average damage per use
3741 / 59 =
63,40
average DPS with Avenging Wrath and 3x Vengeance up.
If my math are not correct -- just using common sense here, or almost common :p -- feel free and please correct it!
P.S My math are definitely not correct since I just realised that I didn't factor the crit rate in.
评论来自
Serith
The lightning bolt from this can be reflected.
评论来自
Sauron0
The Anti-magic Shell also absorbs the dmg when it fails.
- When it fails, the spell hits you and your target.
评论来自
sadistlex
What is the range of this trinket?
评论来自
209208
This trinket deals nature damage. Vengeance only affects Physical and Holy, unfortunately.
评论来自
264670
I assume this scales with haste as the cast time on my cast bar reads .9 seconds on my mage who has a fair amount of haste.
评论来自
264670
I'd love hear where it gets its crit chance if anyone has an idea.
评论来自
180641
Ok, at lvl 80 this trinket is alright but consider using this trinket at 60?..........
lol ya, I know your thinking about it too.
Your able to learn
Grand Master Engineering
at lvl 60 which means your able to make this item, and since it doesn't require a level your able to use it, Also you can drop Eng if you wanted and still be able to use it.
Now, think how extremly powerful you'll be in 60 bracket. Consider that most players will have around 4k - 6k hp. 1 lucky crit from this and you can pretty much 1 shot a person every cooldown if it doesn't back fire.
评论来自
MoonLite
Can you equip 2 at the same time? It doesn't say "Unique" anywhere...
err... await nvm, they will probably share cooldown, rendering the 2nd one totally useless.
Can anyone confirm this yet?
评论来自
72243
Doesn't seem to be affected by the mage frost talent
Shatter
评论来自
274469
Going to do a check to see if it will work with Cold Blood.
评论来自
264670
It's physical school, so interrupts have no effect. However, attack pushback, mind numbing, and I would assume curse of tongues affect the cast time. This makes sense as it scales with spell spell.
I'm not sure where it gets its spell crit because I don't think it works with shatter. My crit is low right now though so I would have to spend some time testing it.
评论来自
144572
It can also crit yourself, as show in this image:
http://e.imagehost.org/view/0491/asdasd
评论来自
Thefeared
A rogue's cloak of shadows will not stop the nature damage proc on the user.
评论来自
298375
I signed up to wowhead just to tell you all about this trinket.
While it may not appear that great on paper in a raiding situation,
the real power of this trinket is that using it, is not on the global cooldown.
I'll give you an example, me being a mage I have found alot of incredibly powerful combinations that show the power of this trinket.
As frost, of course the standard way to kill someone has always been to shatter them with frostbolt + icelance.
However, with this trinket.... the rotation can become Frost bolt + Icelance, then, as the ice lance is casted, one global cooldown must pass before you can cast again, however, you can IMMEDIATELY charge this trinket. Not only does it make your shatter that much more damaging, the lightning it shoots will instantly hit your target, and all 3 sources of damage will hit within miliseconds. And just for an example, personally a standard shatter is 5800 frost bolt crit, 3800 ice lance crit, then this guy usually hits for 3000, crits for 5000 (not that often however).
I have found tons of instances where I am on the global cooldown, wanting to put damage into a target but I have nothing. Other examples would be the global cool down right after I cast deep freeze, if you play as Arcane barrage/pyro you can do Arcane barrage > This trinket > PoM Pyro > Arcane barrage, and let me tell you, people have to check their combat logs after they get hit with that much damage.
To conclude I believe this trinket is amazing for mage pvp. The fact that it is not on the global cooldown makes all the difference in the world. It gives you the option to add more burst into your combinations, which is so much more than "add x amount of this stat, chance on hit to do something" that most other trinkets offer.
评论来自
Kuja
from ptr notes:
Gnomish Lightning Generator has had its cast time and cooldown reduced.
updated notes:
Gnomish Lightning Generator is now instant cast. (Down from 1 sec)
评论来自
Eillesthis
This will trigger
Thunder Capacitor
when it crits, and seems to crit based on your spell crit chance.
评论来自
201933
Just had it crit my target but hit me for regular.
评论来自
Serai
in the upcomming patch the cast time will be removed
since its a trinket i doubt it will have a global cooldown (im not sure tough, it might be overpowerd in pvp), making it actually a nice dps trinket
评论来自
305492
I must say, if It deals nature damage with it's backfire, then It might actually give hunters a good reason to use Aspect of the wild.
评论来自
ghenz
It's crit with my AW on around 5000K
评论来自
Jendalar
Hunters with the Beast within active will do +10% dmg with this (Confirmed on testrealm) however the backfire damage is also +10%
评论来自
133226
Apparently they decided that buffing anything Engineers make would be too out of character, so they canceled the cast time change.
3.0.8 and it's still 1 second.
评论来自
309057
As of 3.0.8:
The trinket is still Bind-On-Pickup, but it now also requires Engineering (425), meaning that if you have dropped engineering, you will no longer be able to use the trinket. On a related note, the similar Gnomish Death Ray still does not have any Engineering requirement to use. (I, for one, found this trinket alone to be worth re-leveling engineering to 425. Others will beg to differ, I'm sure.)
The trinket's cooldown has been reduced from 1.5 minutes to 1.0 minutes.
The trinket still has a 1.0 second cast time, but it can be cast while moving.
The trinket can still be used while the GCD is hot, and it still triggers the GCD after the cast is finished and the bolt is fired.
The trinket can still be used in arenas.
The trinket is still an excellent choice for just about any class who benefits from ranged, on-demand burst damage (ie. PvP healers and melee DPS).
评论来自
151627
Can this be used in arena's?
评论来自
313293
This trinket is extremely useful for melee classes.
For example, when I was playing on my rogue I was attacked by a druid. As usual he engaged me in melee for a bit, then decided he needed a HoT, so he rooted me and tried to do the normal kiting technique druids do against rogues. However, once he changed form to escape melee, I used deadly throw, fired a rocket out of my gloves, and then killed him with a nice 5k crit from my lightning generator.
Later, a mage started to attack me. I got up close, but eventually he managed to freeze me and started doing his blink kiting techniques. Again, I threw my dagger, fired a rocket, and zapped him with the lightning generator from range and finished him.
It might not be the best dps trinket for all you casters out there, but for melee it really adds another dimension to your attacks.
评论来自
Kobrakai
Has anyone been able to determine as to whether the damage scales with Spell Power, Attack Power, both or neither yet?
评论来自
52965
Usable in arenas?
评论来自
259773
hmmm wasn't it supposed to be instant cast since 3.0.8?
It's still 1sec cast (off gcd) and you can move while casting it but well.. not instant.
评论来自
wilosoft
No I don't think it scales with AP, I'm a DK with 1758AP self buffed with horn of winter rank 1 on, I just critted with it 4413 on a mob in winterspring :D
评论来自
197823
Is it usable in arenas? I saw a rogue with the flawless victor title wearing it...lol.
评论来自
114927
Just built this for my rogue and I tested it with Hunger For Blood up and it indeed hit harder. 3419 and it crits as well. However it does not use cold blood ;-<
However it does have an occasional kickback. Mine critted for 5159 but hit me for 5824
评论来自
211590
As it currently is, 3.0.9, it's
1 second cast, can cast while moving
45y Range
1m CD
Seems to backfire about 20%-ish of the time
The worst part is (This is why I'm happy to finally be rid of it, replaced with
Meteorite Whetstone
) that the backfire can also crit, which is horrible as a rogue, especially at level 75-ish when it backfire-crits you for 6500. Yes, it can crit that high, so keep that in mind.
As a Rogue, I liked to have a macro that was just
/use Insert-Glove-Name-Here (Assuming your gloves have the Pyro-Rocket tinker)
/use Gnomish Lightning Generator
In that order, as the GLG uses the CGD & has cast time, but the Pyro-rocket is instant and off GCD.
It's something nice when your at 0-10 energy, something to hit when you can't do anything else.
That said, it's still fun and great for PvP, keeping another Rogue in combat, whatever. Still worth it, and a true engineer will at least use it for a while... Or until it causes their death, either or.
(P.S. this thing killed me once at a training dummy, was testing DPS as Combat (Normally Subtlety), and my health was at about 4k, and I thought that should be fine for one more backfire. Next time CD's up, hit my macro, BZZZZZZZ!, backfire-crit for 5k! Luckily a nearby Paladin rezzed me, felt pretty stupid =D Just keep the potential-suicide in mind)
评论来自
Asse
It procs deep wounds!
评论来自
329006
Here are some facts I've collected about this trinket:
Engineering 425, no Gnomish requirement.
Binds on Pickup
Range - 30 yards
Backfire rate - around 10%, so very low
Backfire hits you and the target for a random amount each within the damage range.
Lightning bolt does Not chain
IS Enhanced by Metamorphosis (20% dmg boost)
IS Enhanced by Curse of Elements (and I would imagine similar effects)
Can critically strike
Can proc Lightweave Embroidery
This is a great trinket for BGs unless you get particularly unlucky. Being able to throw out a 4.5k+ blast with this trinket that carries a Lightweave proc for 1.2k - 2k has earned me many killing blows.
评论来自
Teuz192
i love this trinket <3 being a rogue, and being able to shoot bolts of lightning it's so cool :D (quite useless after all but i still love it)
it reminds me of Full Metal Alchemist too, can't remember the name of the guy with special gloves...
评论来自
309374
This little trinket is responsible for some devastating burst damage, especially in BG's. Enemies barely have time to react with this synched to my explosive shots :).
评论来自
114730
I can definitely confirm that this item, in fact, can cause critical strikes.
Both on your primary target and while backfiring, independantly.
I've gotten as high as 6 984 damage on a crit with this thing. Note, though, that I'm in fact a level 69 Retribution-Paladin "Twink", and do not possess Avenging Wrath. I did this with Berserking from WSG up.
in my experience, it normally backfires for a higher amount than it caused damage from. But that may just be my perception, and in any event, this is offset with criticals on both ends.
It seem to follow Spell Critical chance, rather than physical, but this is just a rough estimation, as I have 33% phys. crit, and ~22% spell.
It's an incredibly fun and intriguing item to use. Dangerous? Of course. That's part of its charm.
But i must say; If you kill yourself with the backfire, and get your own killing blow, you WILL not be credited a death on the scoresheets of BGs, but it DOES account for the sake of achievements. (ie, Wrecking Ball; Iron Man)
Use at your own risk. But don't worry. "It's safe!"
../Sam, Twisting Nether, EU.
评论来自
333614
range is 30 yard, and you can cast it while running
评论来自
218582
Anyone know if you can equip two and have a reliable 6k burst? Or.. maybe one every 30 seconds, I don't know cooldown mechanics very well.
I'll have to make another and try them out.
评论来自
Naughtelos
"It's Safe!"... It's nice that Gnomes have finally dropped the legal BS and have just started lying straight to our faces.
评论来自
ares90
What's Spell Damage coefficeent? (Trinket deal 2610 to 3190 damage and i have 2000 bonus spell damage, how many damage i'll got?) :)
评论来自
49270
Does using this trinket as a feral druid shapeshift u from cat/bear to humanoid form?
评论来自
169131
Hunters in
Aspect of the Viper
will have the damage halved, both to their target and to their own self when it backfires. Sixty percent damage (self and enemy) if they specced into 11th point Beast Mastery talent
Aspect Mastery
. This will also regenerate a portion of mana as though you were attacking physically.
评论来自
ckoB
Very LAMEweapon in 2v2 pvp, we faced 5 times DK/Pala both had em.. My pala didn't even got time to bubble when dk first hits 6 icy touches and then both of them uses the generator and pewpew my friend is dead :( Should get out of arenas imo.
评论来自
106456
You guys don't even know how awesome this is for a priest. I'll have Shadow Word:Death macro'd with this trinket permanently.
评论来自
343793
This is my new favorite trinket. I have a level 80 death knight and I use this trinket while farming, doing dailies--anything that involves even level mobs or lower. It's a great utility for pulling if death grip or death coil is unavailable. Besides, it's a big bolt of LIGHTNING so the cool factor is there. It does crit. I estimate it backfires about 10-15% of the time. I wouldn't recommend equipping this for heroics or raids. It's not worth losing the stat another trinket can offer, but in terms of utility this is a solid addition to engineering.
评论来自
59638
As of 3.1PTR (build 9757)
now deals 1530 to 1870 damage. (Down from 2610 to 3190)
评论来自
Benegesserit
Getting nerfed in 3.1. As if Engineers didn't already get enough of nothing from Blizzard. Thanks for the salt.
评论来自
Wezagred
Nerfed in patch 3.1.0 by atleast half the damage.
Useless now.
Generates a bolt of lightning to strike an enemy for 1530 to 1870 Nature damage. This entire device is made of metal....
http://ptr.wowhead.com/?spell=55039
评论来自
ArashikageClan
I didn't see this in the most recent PTR notes, but when I logged in last night right before server restart, the damage nerf had gone through AND 84 crit rating was added to the item, granting the same crit rating as Mirror of Truth. Not sure why that wasn't in the patch notes and if it is here to stay or not though.
评论来自
91848
This item get's a significant nerf in the upcoming 3.1 patch:
"Gnomish Lightning Generator now deals 1530 to 1870 damage. (Down from 2610 to 3190)"
- Direct quote from patch notes
评论来自
72279
If you are thinking about leveling engi mainly for this trinket, dont.
3.1 PTR Patch Note:
Gnomish Lightning Generator now deals 1530 to 1870 damage. (Down from 2610 to 3190)
评论来自
197823
Not worthless, but worth so much less after the 3.1 nerf (in the arena setting).
评论来自
90006
Also, it will now be an instant cast and will have passive crit rating. On the other hand it might have had it's damage reduced even further.
评论来自
ArashikageClan
Now on a 10-second dps burst item category cooldown, according to the current 3.1 PTR patch notes. No more stacking this with a hand rocket for massive burst :/
评论来自
345029
The backfire rate I've experienced with this item is absolutely
horrific
. I've only counted the last 30 uses and it backfired 13 times (hits both you and your target for the same amount). I know that's an extremely small sample but the reason I even decided to keep track in the first place was because I noticed it hitting me so frequently in battlegrounds...
评论来自
52647
As of 3.1, has 84 crit rating passive, deals 1530-1870 damage, and is insta-cast on a 1 minute cd
Can be cast simultaneously with a POM spell
评论来自
malum
New Stats:
Improves critical strike rating by 84
Use: Generates a bolt of lightning to strike an enemy for 1530 to 1870 Nature damage. This entire device is made of metal.... (1 Min Cooldown)
Shares a 10 second cooldown with the hand rocket, and accelerator.
NOT ON THE GCD! Could be better than mirror of truth, running some tests to see.
评论来自
174047
6% crit at 60,and you can equip two of them!
edit: after 3.2 grand master engineering requires lvl 65 to learn
评论来自
desolatedmaggot
Stormstrike
doesn't appear to have an affect on the damage of the Generator's lightning. :(
评论来自
36622
Nikola Tesla would be proud :)
评论来自
nerflocked
As of 3.1.2 it seems like it never crits. Backfire rate seems very low...
评论来自
111622
They nerfed the Damage, but added Crit.
评论来自
367381
Blizzard totally screwed up since they didnt remove thease, Sonic Boosters or any of the Grand master engieering gadgets from level 60 players, when the level requirement to it is level 65.
评论来自
MoonLite
Also, keep this in mind for alts, as at lvl65 you can crank up engineering to 450!
Gnomish Lightning Generator
+
Noise Machine
or
Sonic Booster
+
Hand-Mounted Pyro Rocket
makes leveling a whoooole lot easier and faster.
To make things complete, at engineering 350 (lvl55) you can use
Saronite Bomb
, which are now
dirt cheap
(24-40 bombs per craft).
And ofcourse at lvl62 and lvl72 the
epic headpieces
.
评论来自
Darxide
I did a little testing with this on a training dummy and it seems that because it is nature damage, it is affected by spells like
curse of elements
. now I have set up a macro like so:
/cast Curse of Elements
/use Gnomish Lightning Generator
You can also use either
/use 13
/use 14
If /use Gnomish Lightning Generator doesn't work (I'm at work and cant check right now)
That way you curse just before the GLG goes off and is affected by the extra 13% and resistances
评论来自
316937
A note: Cloak of Shadows does NOT mitigate the possible backfire it seems.
This thing backfires frequently and can even crit yourself! While not criting your opponent to boot.
This has even landed a killing blow on myself once. The "It's Safe!" is correct if your comparing it to a speeding bus with AIDS encrusted spikes on the front.
评论来自
403496
I love one shotting players at the lvl 19 bg with this one, I have a 19 rogue with 450 engineering <3
They think they are going to kill me, then I use this 1 sec cast and BAAM, they just WTF :D
评论来自
347626
In action :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g422Zd2gRck&feature=related
评论来自
alfonzzo
poor man's Darkmoon Card: Death. less damage, and longer cd.
On the plus side, it's usable before 80, and it makes you look like Emperor Palpatine.
评论来自
Fenarth
My observations on this item 3.13
- When it backfires it hits yourself like always but ALSO hits your target regardless
- Range is not as good as hand rocket now (unsure of exact number)
- Backfire hit me for 3.4k crit maximum
评论来自
442824
do you have to be a gnomish engineer to make/use?
评论来自
399426
have this on my rogue i would say, don't spend to much time or money on this if u don't realy need it. i would say that hand-mounted pyro rocket is better:
1) no chance on taking damage
2) same damage
3) less cooldown
4) longer range
5) doesn't take an item slot
btw: if u have both and u use one of them the other will have a short cooldown
评论来自
Bombers
From what I recall spell power also helps with this item. I was using it earlier as a warrior and only did around 1-2k from about 6-7 uses. While my friend would hit constant 3-4k damage amounts as a ret paladin. Maybe I'm just not lucky with this item but I still find it very usefull for quick burst damage.
评论来自
281980
For some discuisons about criticals with this trinket
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbTEMqUUSy0&feature=related
at 0:43 you can see it making a nice crit
评论来自
Teliko
The item is not unique? :S What happens if you have two equipped?
评论来自
GoatFooker
Hunger for Blood does not seem to affect this.
Also, I had not seen it mentioned, but I could not get any of my activation trinkets to work in conjunction with this or the hand-mounted pyro rocket. Both went to cooldown for the duration of the trinkets.
评论来自
24111
If you still like using this and also have the Hand-Mounted Pyro Rocket , here's the macro to use them with 1 button:
#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=60 13, 10
13 is your first trinket slot, if you have it in the second slot, use 14. 10 is for gloves slot.
评论来自
Oakenshadow
So, from what i understand, if you have a rich enough char to get all the mats and help your alt power level his engineering, then he could send something this powerful to a level 19 twink if it was possible. that would be awesome
评论来自
609990
Im leveling an elemental shaman in bgs and this trinket coupled with the hand rocket is amazing. i have it macrod with my lightning bolt and i can punch out so much burst.
flame shock, lava burst crit, chain lightning/trinket = 11 000 damage instantly (by the time my lava burst gets to the target, my chain lightning/trinket are hitting him). makes for a good show. and thats without my chain lightning/trinket critting.
and if that doesnt kill him (im not 80) round 2 will commence in 10 seconds (the hand rocket and trinket have a 10 second cooldown between them)
评论来自
504286
in fact, the warrior i used it on seemed rather shocked when i crit him for 5652...lol *Pun intended*
评论来自
sidelsky18
Some facts:
1700 average hit / 2700 average critical hit.
About a 5% chance to damage you as well as the target.
Chain lightning animation, no bounces though.
Might use your critical chance, but mine is about 12% and this crit about 7% of the time.
While questing, made about 6% of my damage.
Here's an amazing macro for priests. This macro will put a shield on yourself and then use the lightning generator on your target. If it damages you as well you take little/no damage and if it doesn't you still have a shield!
#showtooltip Gnomish Lightning Generator
/cleartarget
/cast Power Word: Shield
/targetlasttarget
/use Gnomish Lightning Generator
评论来自
682635
And FYI as of 4.0.1 if you don't want the crit this can actually be reforged :)
评论来自
627505
Does a mass AoE underwater.
Well, it would be nice if it did.
评论来自
SlapahoGaming
was curious about the CD on this trinket if you have two equipped, anyone have information on that?
i know its a 15 sec CD between this and the rocket gloves (or atleast thats what it used to be) so can you use one trinket -> 15 seconds later use the other -> and then 15 secs later use your rocket gloves?
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