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Квест даёт нпс Ваелан, а не тот что указан тут, он находится недалеко от от входа внутри подземелья Нижняя часть Вершины Черной горы (LBRS) на камне - цифра 1 согласно аддону Atlas

Комментарий от Gtaz

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You may have trouble turning in all the items. Vaelan didn't show the yellow question mark and at first I couldn't even talk to him. I tried talking to him several times and he finally responded, but without the quest turn-in option.

As I stood in front of him chatting with someone in my guild, perhaps 2 or 3 minutes, he suddenly had the question mark over his head and allowed me to turn it in and accept the second part.

It's an odd glitch but I figured this might help someone who might otherwise say it's bugged and leave the instance.

Комментарий от Hellreject

Me neither, I can't get the quest. He just stands there like a moron and has nothing for me. I even tried waiting and nothing happened. So if there's a prequest, speak up. I want this key :P

Комментарий от Thottbot

You need the seal of assension to start the quest but u can still get the gems even if u don't have it. I recommend getting friends or a guild to help you get the gem as your looking at 20+ raids by your self (could even be much much more). one thing i have noticed is it seems a gem always drops per run, just random who drops it. The amount of hours it takes to get the whole key is absurd.

Комментарий от Thottbot

seal of ascension is a random drop throughout the dungeon.
and tonight i was on a 7 person raid and ALL the gems dropped. I only needed 2, so my guildie got the third giving him 2 gems, so now we are have 1 key for the guild and are 1 gem away from a second key. good times!

so it is possible that all gems drop in 1 run.
the unlucky group who went in 2 min after us, however found no gems.

the kicker here is that you need to finish this quest to get the key to let you into Ubrs to do the 2nd part of the onyxia chain. so pick someone trustworthy to hold the key for your guild, because without it, you are majorly stuck.

Комментарий от Thottbot

For people who cant click the gems..

Gemstone of Spirestone - Highlord Omokk
Gemstone of Bloodaxe - Overlord Wyrmthalak
Gemstone of Smolderthorn - War Master Voone

Комментарий от Thottbot

Found Vaelen last night. In LRBS fight your way past the 1st 4-5 ggroups of mobs. Just before the 1st wooden bridge there is a dark area to the left that slopes up. This is the ramp. Follow it up and Vaelen is there by himself.

Комментарий от Thottbot

In patch 1.5 the stones were changed to green items, so everyone can see them, and they bring up the roll box when the first person loots the corpse.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Someone opened the door for you whether or not you saw it or not.
You do not need a key to enter the "blackrock spire" instance. The part that you do without the key is called Lower Blackrock Spire and has a quest to get you the key.
If you have the key, you can open the door to UPPER black rock spire (to the left upon entering) which is where rend and drakk reside.
Just because YOU didn't open it, doesn't mean it wasn't opened for you. So don't misinform people if you don't know.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Ok.. Ive done this runs alot of times now.
We are a stealth group of 3 rogues and 2 druids (sometimes the other way around) killing all the bosses in LBRS leaving everything else.
All the bosses are doable in this way, and its realy easy. The hard part is to get consentrated after doing the stealthrun like 10 times.
The rogues always want the shadowcraft gloves, the druids want the shoulders and the boots, and the 3 other bosses dropps gems, so its kinda a full run every time.

My advice is to go like this if you are doing a stealth run.
1.) run past to Omokk (the ogre) for one of the gems.
2.) Go down get the troll that drops the shadowcraft gloves (if someone needs em)
3.) Go down another floor and kill the boss alone there for another one of the gems.
4.) Go around and up to the spiders and kill the mother spider from the corner to get the wildheart boots.
5.) Go up and kill the wolfs for the wildheart shoulders.
6.) Go and kill the last dragonkin boss for the last gem.
7.) get out, reset the instance and go again.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Ok here is my understanding of the string of events that lead up to getting your key for ubrs. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

1. Visit Vaelan to begin the quest. Now you must find the Unadorned Seal of Ascension which is random drop.
2. Once found, Unadorned Seal of Ascension begins the task of collecting 3 gemstones.
3. Once all the gemstones have been collected, turn the quest in to Vaelan and he gives you the Key to UBRS.

Комментарий от Thottbot

You have to bring him the Unadorned Seal of Ascension to start the quest :o

Комментарий от Thottbot

Yes, you get these in raids. I was in a 10-man last night and got two of the gems off the two bosses we killed.

Комментарий от Thottbot

The unadorned seal is white, so it will drop into whoevers inventory like a peice of silk. It would probably be a good idea to agree on how to distribute it rather than give it to whoever grabbed it first.

I ran it last night and it fell off some trash mob, someone picked it up and my guildy asked to roll for it, and he won the roll but the guy that took it refused to roll and said it was his. We get to some boss and stuff drops he wants then he capitulates. Gotta love extortion.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I thought I would write this note because the directions to find Vaelen say he is near the first wooden bridge on the left. I thought that meant really close and on the left side as I looked at the bridge, not so. If you are looking at the bridge, the ramp that you want is behind you in the far back left corner - you just ran past it on the way down to the bridge. Go up the stone "ramp" to the very corner, hop on the ledge and walk to the left, Vaelen is right in front of you now.

Also, one of the posts says the dragon in the next quest is a 58 Elite, it is a 61 Elite - so bring friends. What I did was join a UBRS group, they didnt have the key so the helped me complete the second quest so that we could all go in.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Ok, so youve entered the instance portal. You go right into LBRS and drop off into the room with the 3 humains and a person with 2 pets.

once youve passed this room you will come to another with 2 sets of mobs opposite you where you can drop right onto the ledge (on your right is ogres) or go straight ahead down the ramp.

Then, if you stick to the left wall you will walk past a dark opening to the left which is like a ramp, if you walk up this to the top, then hope on the ledge, then you can walk along the ramp to a first hostile enemy. He will then mind control you and turn friendly.

Without the seal, you can talk to him about it. To get the quest for the seal of ascension, you MUST have the unadorned seal. I hope this has helped.

Комментарий от Thottbot

dont even bother getting the quest until you have all three gems. There is also no point in picking up the seal, since it drops 3 or 4 times on an unlucky run, and usually a lot more (I typically stop counting around 8 or so, but 10 or 15 isnt unreasonable). Its not worth carrying around unless you plan on grinding steadily for the key.

Once you have all 4 items then go grab the quest and continue on, but since you can grab them all first you may as well keep your quest log clear for more useful quests in the meantime.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Good luck trying to find a party for this, since now that TBC is out, everyone capable of this run has gone to Outland. Blizzard should have added equal incentive to run both normal Azeroth 58 - 60 instances or Outland. It feels like a slap in the face.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Woot Woot
Solo'd Wyrm tonight lvl 70 Druid

its not easy but hey i got my UBRS key
i stealthed the whole place to wyrm killing a few bosses on the way not killing any mobs what so ever. i stealther in and shifted back into elf form in the right hand corner placed a HOT on me and hit bear form, usual hits DPSn as much as possible i crit for bout 1,500 in bear regulary so he went down easy and with IMP Leader of the Pack i gained most of my health back throughout the fight

Had 2 mobs atack at about 20% switched target to them, they went down quite quickly, then stunned wyrm hit elf form drank a health pot and cast another HOT and went back to bear took him down with about 7% health left. Picked up my gem and a few DE trash items and went on my merry way.

Next solo UBRS :-D

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Does no one have the cords to this guy?... Vaelan that is

Edited, Aug 16th 2006 at 1:44pm EDT by nBzstaR

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I have 2 stones and the seal (a lot of run before i got that...); i still need the stone from Wyrmthalak -> i have to do a full LBRS raid run praying for a chance to drop...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Yes

Комментарий от Allakhazam

is this quest sharable. can someone help me?

Edited, Thu Feb 9 07:45:45 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I got the seal, and the stones form Ommok and Wyrm all in the same run. Going back after Voone tonight too. (Maybe he'll finally drop my Beaststalker's Gloves now that I need something else too)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This quest raidable?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Yes this is the beginning of the quest for the UBRS key, and yes everything drops in raid groups. I found the seal the most difficult to find because it drops randomly off mobs instead of off specific bosses. Once you find it get a good group that won't ninja loot the gems and hit all of the bosses. Might take two tries to get the gems to drop, but it is worth the effort to get you well on your way to the UBRS key.

Edited, Wed Jun 8 05:15:11 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

As of the latest patch, the gemstones are green BOP instead of white BOP, as they were last patch. So with default loot settings, everyone can roll for them, instead of having to tell everyone not to loot the corpses twenty times before each boss fight...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I have 2 of the gems and the seal, but have dropped the quest. I've gone back to Vael, but can't get the quest again. Does anyone know if I would need to drop the items to get the quest again? Or should I just be able to get it agian?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Yes it is for the UBRS Ammulet (key).

The orcs in Orc Alley have the highest droprate for the unadorned seal. I ran the instance about 20 times before I finaly got my last two stones. Good luck.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Do people who post here actually read previous messages? they keep repeating the same questions that's been answered already...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I don't know if I am lucky or not because normally nothing drops for me. But for this quest 4 runs and I finished the quest and killed emberstrife. Just need to go back to turn in the quest.

Does anyone know if there are other rewards for this quest?

I was under the impression that you can get a FR ring and I was really looking forward to it because i currently only have like 54 FR unbuffed which is worse then pathetic.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

How did anyone get into UBRS in the first place to do the quest without a key?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I I can't delete messages i just need to use some sick words to get this message removed

Edited, Feb 17th 2010 8:11pm by qabooze

Edited, Feb 17th 2010 1:32pm by AngstyCoder

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I've been through UBRS and LBRS numerous times and still haven't gotten the Seal. Random drop tables kind of suck.

Edited, Wed Jan 4 15:55:39 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Reward is Seal of Ascension.

This opens the door to UBRS, provides some protection from Gyth's breath, and allows you to summon Vael while fighting Rend.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Yes,
It suffices to have the unadorned seal in your bag to complete the quest.
Providing you have the forged seal too ofcourse.

Cheers
vigh/Magh

Edited, May 7th 2007 10:01am by Vighoraz

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I can't get this quest off this guy, I talked him many times but he just doesnt give the quest, could anybody help me with this? do you have to get the seal first to start the quest or something?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

do you have to be in a raid or group to get the quest? I'm a lvl 58 druid went to him and couldn't get the quest

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Do you need to be on this quest for the gems to drop? The seal dropped for me in a raid and i don't have the quest yet. Can i still get the gems?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

you can get this quest and turn it it by yourself i did i went through the upper entrance waited for patrol on upper stairs to go down used a lesser invisibility potion ran and jumped down waited for timer on potion to run out and patrol to go back down then used a invisibility potion ran to left corner of next room and waited for timer again used another lesser invisibility potion and ran around to ramp and up to valean

Комментарий от Allakhazam

anyone who could submit a screenshot of minimap of where the guy are?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Shaman tactic

To get to the quest giver...you can join a ubrs full run! When you are finished...you can jump of the bridge and down to questgiver...you might die from the fall...(havent really tried it), but what do we have ankhs for! =D

Edited, Sun Jun 11 19:43:35 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I bought the unadorned seal in the AH for 1g, got Smoldthorn and Bloodaxe in one run.

Now 12 runs later to Omokk I've never even seen Spirestone drop. Lame. Our guild is still keyless to UBRS. Drop damnit!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

20 times i have visited the honourable mr. voone, and still no drop. what gives?

if i see those damn throwing axes one more time, i will puke

Комментарий от Allakhazam

The currently bugged quest can be bypassed by getting another Unadorned Seal of Ascension.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Quest can be done in a raid. Here is a summary of who drops what (in order of appearance):

Gemstone of Spirestone = Highlord Omokk
Gemstone of Smolderthorn = War Master Voone
Gemstone of Bloodaxe = Overlord Wyrmthalak
Unadorned Seal of Ascension = random drop from any mob in instance (or buy it off AH)

Edited, Mon Dec 12 21:24:08 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

If you're a hunter and find yourself in a position of soloing the trip to Vaelan, here's what I did...

Required Consumables: None
Aspect of the Monkey and Track Humanoids up for the entirety.

Zone in, Dismiss Pet and wait by the door for the 2 patrolling mobs to clear the area, then run up the right stairs and around the corner to the drop off and Feign Death.

Drop down and wait on the ramp where you won't agro the lower patrol and call your pet. When that patrol emerges from the hallway near the Invoker, send your pet on the patrol (make sure Growl is on) and run by, through the hall and around the corner to the edge (where you would drop down for the shortcut to Hordemar City) and Feign Death.

Wait for the patrol to come to the edge of the hallway and return, then move away from the ledge to the inside wall. Send your pet on the Raider and run by. Keep against the wall on your left and Feign Death when you're clear. You can now approach Vaelan without any further agro and hearth out.

I tried this just to see if I could and had no problem. I got a little beat up in the first room, but that was about it. You could send your pet for that too if you wanted to, but I wanted to make sure I wouldn't be there too long and agro the patrol again or jump/fall off and have my pet pull the whole room. In retrospect, I should have used Deterrence, but didn't think of it at the time.

Good luck!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

i suppose this is they quest for the ubrs key?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I can't seem to attain this quest, i stealthed in, talked to him, but no question mark... do i need the Unadorned Seal of Ascension?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Iv been in lbrs like 15 times now and it still dont drop for me ...

Are you sure it's raid able?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I got the seal and the smolderthorn gem in a raid group the other day. Never seen the other 2 gems though...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

yeah, the seal and gems do drop in raids.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

All the above is almost crap.

Get Quest or Hand in.
Enter Foyer.
Right hand side up ramp and turn right.
Stop at ledge and watch for Pat.
Jump down left side of ledge.
Down ramp and turn left and follow corridor.
Come into large room hard left to wall.
(note if you want to see where you have to then hard right. Look up and diagonally across room to about halfway point. You will see the quest giver/returner x2 up on a ledge. Look to the right and on same level as you are. There is a stone face slope you can make out beyond the flat wall. You need to go up that to it's far corner where you can jump up to same level as Valean.)
If you are 60 hug the left wall all the way around you will not aggro, the 55 that came with me did aggro the mob.
(So enter room hard left you will be safe either right or left no mobs there. Hug left wall turn left hug, turn right, hug, turn left to slope, go around stone slab/obstruction left and up to top corner. From there obvious.)

Approach Valean he looks like a bad guy but transforms and speaks to you.
He will give you the quest, a 55 came with me and could not get it so I'm guessing you need to be up near 60.

You get the quest (I had gems and seal). Hand in quest. He gives you a box with two items. Open the box put items in your bag. Now you have to go to Dustwallow Marsh to a cave where there is a Dragon. Take a group of 5 people have a healer.
You fight the dragon till about 5% of health remains. Tell your group not to be idiots and use DOT's. The round item from the box will take over the dragon. If you have a pet Dismiss before starting you cannot be in control of the Dragon and another pet.

Once you have the Dragon to about 10% place the Seal on the ground by right clicking on it.

Then at about 5% of Dragon health stand near or under Dragon (healer handy now) and use the orb looking item by right clicking. This is how you take over the Dragon. Once in control you will get an extra bar (like pet bar) use the Flame option. You will be in control of the Dragon it's like Eyes of the Beast if you are a Hunter. Take the dragon to where you have placed the second item (It can be placed more than once near each other 5 Max). It does not seem to target the Seal to be fordged so try clicking on the seal and zoom the dragon eyes onto the seal, remember time is limited. Activate the Flame action on the Dragon Bar. Have one of your members nearby so tey can see if the seal becomes "Right clickable for looting". If so your done kill the dragon loot the seal (not from the dragon) and return to Valean.

Now remember it becomes a Loot item so anyone can take it! be careful of slack Horde especialy Wizbangflash he ninja'd ours. Hopefully he will be thrown from the game.

The Key to UBRS is not a key it's a Ring. Approach UBRS door and it will just open for you.

Hope this helps. (PS I now hate all Horde)

Seal drops from about any mob easy to get, you can only carry one.
Gems are from Bosses -

Quest can be done in a raid. Here is a summary of who drops what (in order of appearance):

Gemstone of Spirestone = Highlord Omokk
Gemstone of Smolderthorn = War Master Voone
Gemstone of Bloodaxe = Overlord Wyrmthalak
Unadorned Seal of Ascension = random drop from any mob in instance (or buy it off AH)

Thanks Cooljake above.

All the best hope it helped.

Комментарий от kwms

Cant seem to be able to talk to the "Orc" inside LBRS as an Blood Elf.
I got the Unadorned Seal of Ascension, and all the Gemstones..
Bug? or meant to be like that?

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