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In order to get this quest you must complete ALL of Tirion Fordring's quests at the cave in EPL. After numerous kill quests and a trip to Live Strath you will go to hearthglen in disguise. Only with this disguise buff can you speak to Highlord Taelan Fordring and do this quest.

You can keep your disguise on for a long time. No need to remove it when he says. The quest is very easy while you are in hearthglen, just let him kill everything and try not to get aggro from the elites.

Once you get outside you will be attacked by 5 lvl 60 elites. He can kill them all on his own if you let him. You will not fail for dying at this stage if you can get rezzed immediately to catch up with the Highlord.

The last part is kinda rough. The highlord will take you to the tower where everyone farms for Crusader enchants and yell for the Inquisitor to come out. Do not attack them...it will take a little bit but eventually the Highlord will engage. He will handle the main guy and he tells you to "deal with the crimson elites". Doing this with just myself and a shaman proved to be fairly difficult. There are only two guards with him but a group of 5 comes down the path and engages as well.

I am not sure if these auto aggro you, or if you can let them aggro the highlord as well. When i did it we got aggro and it was a mess. The shaman ended up dying and even with a combat rez right away he failed the quest.

The highlord basically ends up getting owned and Tirion Fordring (the original quest giver) comes to save the day. If you can avoid getting aggro he will handle all the elites and you will get your nice reward.

If i have one piece of advice it is: either dont aggro anything or bring a full group.

riotangel의 댓글

Best is to let Highlord Taelan tackle them to death so do not terminate the disguise and watch from a distance until big daddy Fordring arrives to spank everybody.

Eliandor의 댓글

This quest can be solo'd by any class. The trick is to keep the illusion on at all times. Even with it active, Issilen will be aggroable. Once Taelan engages, you can peg Issilen and kite him around on your mount until Tirion arrives (Taelan will eventually attack Issilen, taking him off you). A little easier for a hunter or rogue since they can drop aggro.

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Maybe this quest is bugged but you can complete it even if you die! I aggroed and died before big daddy arrived, but watched as Fordring utrned up and killed them all. Once he finished the quest came up complete, and all I needed to do was release and run back to my body to collect the reward.

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died 5-6 times doing this, so I thought I would post a strategy for warriors.

1 - Just keep your costume on until he gets to the front gate. There is nothing that gets close to killing him inside.

2 - At the front gate, the fight that you cannot handle is one where he simultaneously agros the front gate guards and elites. So, shoot the guards in turn as fordring is getting to the gate and pull them back to him for the kill. Once guards are gone, you can win against elites.

3 - On elites, I tried to let him solo them and he died 2/3 times. Since these are 60 elites, you are going to have a tough time taking aggro on one and living. So, let fordring beat on them for 30 secs or so and then pick the elite he has done the most damage too, taunt and sunder, and take this guy out. Repeat until they are all gone. This is all the help fordring needs.

4 - Just sit on the hill when he gets to the tower, let him die, father win, father cry, you die(at some point). Once dad has a gold ? above his head, rez at the graveyard and ride your horse back to get your reward.

Good luck, hope you don't die as many times as I did, it's a long trip back.

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Just did this quest on my paladin, and i stayed in the costume the whole time.

Highlord Taelan Fordring can kill everything on the way out, even at the gate. He will get to about 1% hp then use lay on hands to heal himself to full.

At the end just keep out of aggro range and he will die, father will come and kill then complete the quest.

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I solod this as a 67 pally without dying - you have to aggro Issilen after he kills the highlord for his dad to show up, and once you aggro him it is hard to get dad to take aggro from you, just keep healing until dad kills all the 60s and then start on issilen. If you do attack issilen after that (which I did) he will mind control you and you'll attack dad. If you aggro dad (which I did) he'll attack you, and he hits hard. Interestingly enough it let me use divine shield while mind controlled, after which dad went back to attacking issilen and killed him. Pick the Warhammer it sells for the most.

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For any class:

Just follow the pally around...do not try to attack..no need to..he will not die.

Did this at 60 on my warrior...just followed the guy around...no problems whatsoever..looked like he would die..but he healed himself to full and kept killing.

At the end..you do not have to aggro...but i decided it would be fun to charge and just slap the elite with my sword...kinda funny really...died..waited for the father to have the gold ? appear over his head...released and ran back. my one and only death was avoidable..but hey..it was funny.

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I just stood back and let the fight by the tower happen, and when Taelan died I failed...

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I just did it by myself (level 60 hunter). Getting out of hearthglen is easy, but when you get to the tower this mage guy comes and about 8 elites attack you and Fordring. He dies, and then his father Tyrion comes and positively OWNS all the elites. After they die, you complete the quest. Admittedly, I died, but if you die DO NOT RELEASE! Wait until Tyrion kills all of them and you complete the quest. Then run back to the tower for handins.

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I'm surprised no one mentioned this but his name tells you how to complete the quest

Taelen Fordring
Tailin' For d ring

His fight with the 4 60 elites just out of the gate he will die sometimes if you don't help him but all you need to do is attack whoever he's attacking and you won't aggro any of the mobs onto yourself.

Thottbot의 댓글

level 60 hunter,
Just did it, no pain at all.

I just kept the disguise on after accepting the quest,
then simply followed him all the way out of the town to the tower,
(though in his quest dialogue he says to take the disguise off incase he attacks you in his rage, this did not happen)

when I got near the tower I abandoned the disguise,
stayed out of the agro range for all the mobs that want to kill him,
Feigned death (FD) off to the side and let them kill him.

I remained FD until after his dad came and opens a can of whoop-arse
on all the mobs, then I poped back up and collected my reward.

and a mighty nice reward it was too :)

Thottbot의 댓글

Taelan will respawn after a while if you 'fail', release and abandon the quest before Tirion shows up. So if this happens to you just ressurect, get your costume back and go wait in Hearthglen for him and do it again.

Thottbot의 댓글

It's impossible to keep Taelan alive at the end.

We got a group and killed every enemy in attempt to keep him alive, but soon after we cleared the area, Taelan just collapsed dead on his own. Not from anything attacking him, he just went from nearly full health to dead. So if you were wondering, Taelan's death is a scripted event, there is no way to avoid it.

Oh well.

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You will enter disguised in castle (previous q), get to boss, take the following q and then go after him. I didn't keep my disguise (because he said to remove it) and went after him. When he begun fighting I helped(no one shooted at me,so practicaly I've just shooted at some mobs).Boss always tanked, so no worry, not 1 hp damage on me.When the last fight started (the one ppl above talk about)i died in first 3 secs, then I DIDN'T RELEASE SPIRIT and watched the battle. Boss dies and then his father comes and kicks everybody's ass and remains there with question mark above his head(so q FINISHED). I released spirit and ran to him. And that was it! SO even my pet could solo it!

Thottbot의 댓글

After you failed this quest (die very far from Daddy). I went and rez, after i went and get illuzion and coming back. Abadon qust near 63 elite and get new "In dreams". Complite it and all.

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heh, this event killed 2 farmers when I was doing it.

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I just attempted this quest. Got through to the end where Taelan dies (he was at near full health and suddenly dropped dead, definitely the scripted death kicking in), whilst I waited on the hill nearby. Nothing else happened. After about 5 or 10 minutes, Taelan's body disappeared, and I got the "failed" notice about the quest.

Do you *have* to die for this quest to work? I'm going to try it again (this time not in costume to try and get the "phat loots"), but still try to avoid death in that final battle and see if I can just wait for the father to appear. Kinda annoying that it takes 20 minutes just to find out if there is a bug in the quest or not.

Also kind of annoying that the past several times I've tried to get this quest going, someone else is in the middle of it. You have to wait for them to finish before you can do anything!

EDIT: Did it a second time, this time I stayed closer to the action. I got aggro and died, but the father spawned as expected. Maybe I was too far away before?

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The first time I attempted this, I was cut down by the guards while he fought the Inquisitor at the tower, and released my spirit. You must BE at the site of the battle, living or dead, when Taeron's father comes to kill the Scarlets or you cannot complete the quest.

IF you've failed, there's no need to return to the hermit paladin for anything -- the gift that you give Taeron to initiate the quest first run doesn't need to be give twice. Simply get the disguise from the hag gnome again, abandon the quest, and go talk to Taeron. He will give you the escort quest once more, which you can complete normally.

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I completed this quest on first try. Couple of things that I did or didn't do......

1. I didn't assist with any of the fighting
2. I kept the costume on the whole time, including when I got the reward from his dad....in fact after I was dancing with a couple of undead players who happened to be in the area....the costume had around 8mins left to it.
3. I stayed on the hill across from the tower where his scripted death happens and aggro'd no one. I only came down from the hill after his dad finished his business.

My wife has also done this quest with her UD warrior and pretty much it was the same for her....no fighting, just enjoy the show.

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Im doing this quest with my warrior on the KArgath realm but the guy is bugged and i cant finish the quest becuase he always dies on the 4 lvl 60elite tht walk the road. Its impossible i got a vgroup and we killled the group then the boss man on boss man fight worked i thought but it didn't and i fialed the quest and the king guy was ditched.....

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Do you have to do all the listed quest before you can do the escort quest? Can I just make my way to him and then do the escort quest or do I actually have to bring him a gift to get the "!"?

Carrion Grubbage: https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=5544/청소부구더기
Redemption: https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=5742/구원
Of Forgotten Memories: https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=5781/잃어버린-기억들
Of Lost Honor: https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=5845/명예의-상징 71,34 EPL
Of Love and Family: https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=5846/가족과-사랑 65,75 WPL
Of Love and Family: https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=5848/가족과-사랑 Get the arcavist painting
Find Myranda: https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=5861/미란다-찾기 51,77 in WPL (in sorrow hill)its a gnome standing on a log
Scarlet Subterfuge: https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=5862/붉은십자군의-핑계 Take gift to Taelan in Hearthglen

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Although it is not possible to heal Fordring's son directly, it seems to work to Judge a Seal Of Light onto his main target. Fordring will get those Seal Of Light light bubbles rising up from him on most of this hits. Didn't check whether it actually heals though ...

Thottbot의 댓글

Even if you think all of the rewards are garbage, DO THIS QUEST CHAIN. It's so awesome.

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After failing the quest four times I have finally manged to make it on the fifth attempt. I learned two things:
1- The 4 elites exit Hearthglen CAN kill Taelan, it happenned to me twice.Which btw makes the quest fail.
2- I believe after getting out of Hearthglen it is better to undress remove disguise and help kill the 4 60 elites . Moreover it failed twice when I tried to finish it with disguise on and worked without disguise even though I died fast everything worked fine.

Thottbot의 댓글

Disguise is removed if you sit down in a chair. I got bored and started exploring Hearthglen only to fail the quest because I sat down :(. Oh well, 3rd times the charm...

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So yeah, i was escorting him out of Heartglen, then the mofo elites come and kill him, before that, surprisingly i got aggro, and died. Stupid enough i release and run back before his dad kills them, so i come back and no ones there. Anyway i disguise again, go back to the lvl 63 elite guy to try to escort him out again, and nothing happens, he wont talk to me, and he doesnt have any question mark whatsoever on him, the quest i had was (In Dreams) basically its the quest you get after talking to him.

Anyway im stuck so i decide to abandon the quest and retry, well another stupid thing i did. Now im stuck, no idea what to do, ran around to EPL to try to get quest back, but nothing.. cant get it back.

Thottbot의 댓글

...is IMO

To attack the mobs that he is attacking to speed things up...and definately help him with the elites outside Hearthglen

Then when the last fight starts at the Tower, keep close or you might not get quest completion

I died literally on top of him, and then just stayed in my body until the even was finished and the yellow ? was over Fordrings head, then hurried back (he doesn't despawn so fast)

2 times I failed because I had released spirit or was too far !

Thottbot의 댓글

I have done this a few times, usually succeed on first try. last toon has failed it 7 times. 3 from ghey alliance; miss timing spirit release and now... he gets WTFPWN in the FACE by the four man pat.

gotta help hime

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i tried this 9 times w/ my 60 warrior. every time we exit the gates we arrive to an issue. the 4 man pat. every singe time we get there he dies. even had a 60 priest join to heal him when his heal was low. unfortuantly he was immuned to it all. the main issue is the 4 man pat. if anyone has tips for this please email me iksnoved25@aim.com...thanks

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my 2nd toon to complete thise. i think you're talking about the 4man lvl60 champions... he cut thru them like butter .. warrior and mage completed these without any intervention.. still had disguise on too

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i finally got it today
had a lvl 60 pally help out to. i had him clear the main gate first and while i was escorting Taelan we ran into the 4 lvl 60elite pat. he proboly would have died but the pally helped kill the runners and he also attacked the person that Taelan was attacking to kill him quicker.

after that no problems at all. went down to tower and he died then his dad came as planned and raped everyone. -TIP- when u go to the tower...run up to top of the hill that is directly behiend the tower. if ur at the tower facing the road ther is a tree straight ahed of you. to the left there is a hill. climb up the hill and watch. you are close enough not to grab agro and still close enough to complete it. i did this and completed it flawlessly. i survived the entire thing and did not die and need to run back to my body like everyone else says.. you can easliy climb the hill and just watch.
goodluck everyone!

Thottbot의 댓글

-Don't remove the disguise until you have to fight the 4 lvl 60 coming out of the city. Help him there, he dies now there if you don't help.

- Don't fight at the tower, let him fight and die. When he dies you get aggro: Vanish, feign death, whatever you can do but don't run away, stay there. If you die, it doesn't matter: DON't RELEASE.

- The father comes and kills them all, if you are close there you get the "complete" message even if you are dead.

- Get out of stealth to get the quest done, if you are dead, release then and run back as fast as possible (you have time enough to run back so don't stress)

Allakhazam의 댓글

He cant take out the 4 lvl 60 Crimson Elites outside Hearthglen - he just failed to when i tryed to do the quest and stay disguised all the way from where he began slaughtering Scarlet %^&*ers.

Allakhazam의 댓글

This has been mentioned in some way several times.

You cannot loot a corpse, even if you tag it, if an NPC has done the majority of the damage.

Allakhazam의 댓글

1. Talk to Taelan disguised.

2. Stay in disguise until he says to remove it so he won't hurt you in his fury.

3. Stay a little behind him and let him get aggro on all the mobs as he leave the keep and Hearthglen's gates. Feel free to help as desired or needed, although he won't really need help until maybe the 4 60+ who are down the road outside the gates on the way to the tower.

4. The last mobs you should help him with are the 4 elites who walk side by side up the road towards you as you get in the vicinity of the tower. Do not engage nor get near anything at the tower itself.

5. Stay well away from him as he goes to the tower and confronts Isillien and his minions. I stayed on the hilltops looking down at the tower area myself.

6. Let the script unfold as it will (yes Taelan dies and is supposed to, you cannot prevent it nor should you).

7. Once Tirion shows up and mourns his son, THEN you can pitch in once again if you want once he aggros them and actually starts fighting Isillien and his guys. But until this point stay away so you don't get any aggro. I'd assist Tirion on whatever he is whacking.

8. After Tirion wins, collect your reward from the "?" he shows.

Allakhazam의 댓글

This part of the quest line has been harder for me than any other. Strat was easy enough... we 4-manned it all the way to the hall that has the room with the painting.

I have made 6 attempts and have yet to complete this. My mistakes, so that you can learn from them, are as follows:

If you get past the 4 elites on the road and are then ganked by Alliance/Horde before he gets to the tower... res and come back as the script will probably still be running.

Timing matters. Two of my attempts failed because he took so damn long killing everything in sight before leaving Hearthglen... the 4 elites were practically waiting at the gates, along with the 2 guards of course. So if he seems to be killing everything in sight on the way out of Hearthglen, remove your disguise and help him to keep in stride with the proper timing. A clue that you may be facing this problem is when he chases one who has run off the road into a group he wouldn't normally fight.

If you fail, even if it's not logged as failed in your quest log, abandon the quest before speaking with Myranda.

You are lucky if the gold farmers killed everything before you arrived. In that case, you won't have any timing issues... unless you are on a PvP server and your opposing faction decides to mess with you. Then that's just bad luck. :)

So, here's to hoping the 7th time works like a charm!

Edited, Wed Apr 19 13:34:38 2006

Allakhazam의 댓글

Don't help Taelan fight. Stay in your disguise so you don't aggro any of the guys fighting him. He's good enough on his own, even against four level 60 Elites. I thought for sure he was going to die against them but when his health was at 10% or so, it suddenly filled up again all the way. Apparently the quest insists that he doesn't die until later.

He gets killed in front of the tower east of Hearthglen. Forget about helping him--his death is inevitable. Stay in your disguise if you can, and stay far enough away so as not to aggravate the level 63 Elite priest that helps take Taelan out... this is the only member of the Scarlet Crusade that you can aggro throughout the whole quest, assuming you're still disguised.

When he dies, wait a minute. His father will ride up to the tower and have words with the level 63 Elite that killed him. Tirion proceeds to obliterate the priest. If you haven't gotten it yet, you still don't fight or try to help out. In fact, don't help Taelan or Tirion at all in this quest. Just sit back and watch. It's that easy, especially if you stay disguised. Taelan will tell you to take your disguise off when he starts to leave his keep, but ignore that.

After Tirion is done cracking skulls, he'll stay put in front of the tower, and after a long tangent about him and his son and his terrible regrets and mistakes, he'll be ready to reward you.

I did this quest as a level 60 paladin, and had to do it over once because I accidentally aggroed the level 63 Elite priest after Taelan had died, but before his father had arrived. Trust me, you can't take him. Otherwise this quest is a cakewalk, and there are some VERY good rewards at the end. More than enough compensation for a very, very long quest chain.

Allakhazam의 댓글

Here's a link on GoblinWorkshop.com that shows the rewards for this quest:
Rewards

Allakhazam의 댓글

Yeah, I died..pretty fast a priest. Just stay there even if you die..the father comes and pwns everyone..then just walk back and get your reward

Allakhazam의 댓글

He killed his way out, no problem. Just missed the lvl 63 elite guard though. He was killed by that ass lock in the tower, Ilidian? I was then targeted, beig a pala and luckily had shield sword combo, spent all mana healing self and shielding, +banded, so I barely survived. Got the quest done and all is well. sheeesh

Dev

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i am on to 17 tries already. Everytime taelan is fighting at the gates with the 2 guys there and the 4 60+ mobs appear. and he dies. MIssion failed. gettin kinda sick with this quest tbh. Mebbe its just my bad luck that the patrol comes up to the gate just when taelan is charging the 2 guards there.

Allakhazam의 댓글

how can i loot the mobs he killed? cant loot them -.-

Allakhazam의 댓글

can we get 2 prizes =( or just the one cz i want that dam ring and the DAM CHEST =(

Allakhazam의 댓글

You can do this quest over and over and get about 10G per run. Just run away out of range when the event is triggered by the tower. When the quest fails, go back to Myranda and get a new costume and repeat.

We pull all the Scarlet mobs on the way to Fordring and let him take them out. Pick up the loot and ch-ching.

Allakhazam의 댓글

one of the more fun quests in wow

Allakhazam의 댓글

Rualkris describes it exactly right. Stay in disguise, stand way back and don't get involved; the quest completes itself.

Edited, Mon Mar 21 13:06:08 2005

Allakhazam의 댓글

The quest rewards

Mark of Fordring, Ornate Adamantium Breastplate, Shimmering Platinum Warhammer, Shroud of the Exile, Fordring's Seal

Allakhazam의 댓글

Hardest part was getting a good live strat group...but...

Watched him all the way down, never took off the disguise.

SPOILER: He got killed by the other 63 elite, then that elite killed me, then his dad showed up and WTFBBQPWNED them all. I waited as a corpse and the COMPLETED showed up. Then I rezzed at spirit healer and rode over to the tower, then finished the quest. Didn't lift a finger.

Allakhazam의 댓글

This was one of the most frustrating escort quests I've done due to the farmers in the area. They would see me doing the escort and go out of their way to drag as many Scarlets over to the escort so that Taelen would do their work for them. This resulted in the timing being off for the four 60 elites and Taelan getting more mobs than he and I could handle. Took me a few tries before I succeeded because of these people. Very, very frustrating.

If you can, do this quest at non peak hours or be prepared to be irritated by unguilded rogues.

Allakhazam의 댓글

This quest is easy, if you like you can stay in disguise all the way to illidan (spelling, i dunno) as he kills anything thats gets in his way, even the 4 guardsmen that ambush him on the road. after the chit chat stay back and let fordring snuff it, (DONT die before he does, or you fail) after that you are quite safe to get pasted to the dirt (and you probably will) dont release however until fordring senior (daddy) comes and beats the snot out of everyone, if you are still alive at this point sit back and watch, he doesnt need your help, but if you want to feel free to. after that he mourns and says something fancy, very moving and stuff, after that it basically says quest complete and you can claim your reward (or release spirit if you died) he stands about for around 10 mins so you should have enough time to peg it back to your body and complete the quest. if you somehow fail to get back to your body before he buggers off simply meet him at his house in the EPL and finish there

Allakhazam의 댓글

he gets sheredded by the 4 elites every bloody time this quest needs sorting

Allakhazam의 댓글

Fordring can no longer beat the 4 elite patrols on the way to the tower. Now you have to drop the illusion and help him out, otherwise he dies and you fail.

Allakhazam의 댓글

I've failed 4 times now at the 4x60+ group. he just keeps switching targets and that "heal" of his.. its a joke. So f*ing annoying that its about luck, bc thats what it is. Unless you get a full party and tank yourself and such which is not the purpose i think.

Only managed to get by once, then i got killed be revengeful allies at the tower, that i had to kill in hearthglen :/

Allakhazam의 댓글

I got seriously owned during the last fight where I tried to mind control one of the buggers to protect me. However, even after I died, the quest continued, the father came and smacked them all good and proper, and I had completed the quest when he was done talking.. then I realeased and collected my reward... easy as pie.. v. 1.09..

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the only real problem withthis quest is the time it takes. the escort guy omfgwtfpwned all the elite guys at the gate easy as ***that...
but after his father showed up i couldtn complete the quest...:( GJ blizz.

ill just try again tomorrow i guess

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I pulled half my hair out doing this quest. My friend did it first time, not problem. I came back the next day and had %^&*ing 2 undead mage farmers train just about any mob they could find. He despawned right infront of me, just as the undead looted about 100 corpses.

#$%^ this quest, im not here to help chinese farmers get an easy meal ticket.

Allakhazam의 댓글

OMG this quest was so much fun! Now is my favorite quest. Talked to the hag... became a female scarlet crusade :D (my char is a male char)... went up to hearthglen (found it cool to not get killed up there). Then i talked to fondring and he went into a rampage while I jammed out to Iron Man - Black Sabbath on my iPod (listening to music while playing rocks!) while he killed the guys in the room. Escorted him out. When the pat of 4 came i sheeped one and Fondring had no prob at all killing them. When we got to the tower where he confronts the commander I just sat back in the hills and watched it play out. Had the best time ever and got myself the best non-epic mage cloak! Beat it first try and made a lot of gold from Exp=Gold.

Edited, Jul 7th 2006 at 9:49pm EDT by Snobaste

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As a Hunter drop stay in costume until the 4 elites show up. Drop a freeze trap and count to 5, scorpid sting all 4 elites. The Str and Agi reduction is enought that Taelan won't have any trouble with them. Waited another 15 seconds and dropped a volley over them. Never pulled aggro. Reapplied Scorpid sting and watched the show. Easy day, I wish the necklace was a trinket instead, that would rock, the other rewards aren't any good for a hunter... Ah well, time to outroll the rogues on their gear instead I guess. :P

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I just finished the questline, and here is the 2h mace reward.
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=24498

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I've failed the quest, too, and didin't know about the 'hanging around while dead' bit. I released and ran back to find that Fordring was back there alive with a silver '?' above him. Talking to him yielded only <Fordring regains his composure> but no further dialogue. Attempts to repeat produced no results. I can get the disguise, but Fordring won't respond.
On the advice of a GM, I dropped the quest, but now have no idea where to go to get it back. I have no Relic Bundle, and now no quest. Where do I go from here?

EDIT: After dropping the quest, I discovered that Fordring would give the quest again. So, those of you who fail somehow the first time, just abandon, get your disguise, and go see Fordring in Hearthglen again.

Edited, Thu Mar 2 07:36:55 2006

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I've done this... so many times... so many hours... so many deaths and bills in repair. I've tried everything. Even contacted Blizzard.

Nice quest Blizzard.

I @%#^$%&%^(*^%&i($% HATE YOU!

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Dropped the costume right away, helped him out of Hearthglen (even though he didn't need it) and reached the 4 elites. Assisted him where needed and he won with 30-35% healhth left. He mounted. I mounted. He despawned. wtf?

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Just followed him all the way out. I helped him a bit but not much,basically cleaning up runners. The 4 on the road were no problem for him alone. Sat back and watched the show at the end. Got my breastplate. very easy quest.

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If Taelen is on your side can you not just give him like 5 or 6 scrolls and watch him kick some scarlet ass? Or when he is fighting just give him some heavy runecloth bandages. You could probly get off a couple of those per fight, and that would come in handy for the fight against the crimson patrol.

Anybody tried this? Does it work?

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The Breastplate
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=17848/level-50-test-gear-plate-paladin-warrior-2
or
The Necklace
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=17781/추방자의-지시서

I heard there was also some 2handed mace, but I don't know. I'm about to complete the quest so I will let you know later.

Edited, Tue Feb 15 08:53:52 2005

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ok what am i doing wrong. I stay in disguise and escourt him out. He fights his way to the tower. I let him fight the 63 priest and he eventually dies. As soon as he dies the quest fails for me. Even though it fails the dad runs in wipes em all but I cant talk to him.

I tried it a 2nd time and had a 60 warrior with me (priest here) and we took off the diguise this time @ the tower thinking maybe that was it. We also hopped in a faught. the warr died before the escourt but I lived. Once again we both fail the quest as soon as he died. Dad still rolls in and saved the day tho.

I am abandoning the quest re illusioning and restarting the quest each time as well. Am I missing something here?

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Eh, it's ok to drop illusion if you wanna fight, I had no problem not getting aggro just following Taelan. Besides...when me and a friend were doing it, I thaught it'd be funny if an epic dropped (becuase you can loot bodies)since we just sat back and looted, and sure enough! Sash of Mercy, an epic leather belt dropped (good for druids) from me just sitting back letting him kill. I laughed my ass off and was happy I changed...besides it's almost necessary to snare em to not get adds. Ah yes, nice way to get first epic drop.

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gogogo 2x post!

Edited, Tue Aug 30 05:58:59 2005

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Just help him out of hearthglen and then go hide at a safe distance from the tower and you don't even have to die. Watch the show and get the stuff.

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Did this myself. No problems. Though I do recomend you help him out against the group that patrols the road. I let him fight htem but he BARELY won. Try to stall or weaken them in some way, just something to give him the edge he needs. (in hindsight, as a warrior, I prolly should have feared them or dem shouted them)

As for the final confrontation, I stood at a distance but more elites came behind me so I just got close to him and took the death. Priest nearby raised me, allowing me to help Tirion lay the holy smackdown on them. ^^

I saluted Tirion after his speech too. Yeah, I'm a sucker for good stories. Loving my new armor too. Good luck to all.

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* Fordring's Seal (Ring)
+4 Stamina
+5 Intellect
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 37.

* Mark of Fordring (Necklace)
Equip: Improves your chance to get a critical strike by 1%.
Equip: +26 Attack Power.

* Ornate Adamantium Breastplate (Chest)
807 Armor Plate
+22 Stamina
Equip: Increased Defense +10.

* Shimmering Platinum Warhammer (2H Mace)
142 - 192 Damage Speed 3.10
(53.9 damage per second)
Chance on hit: Blasts a target for 180 to 250 Nature damage.

* Shroud of the Exile (Back)
45 Armor
+7 Stamina
+15 Intellect
+7 Spirit

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Garrhggh, I was doing this at work just now, and a drunk was harassing my residents, so I had to call the police, and then Fordring got away and I lost the mission, these tips sound great though.

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okay so some &*!gy warlock killed me in the middle of this quest. i released when he was fighting the elites at the tower. gave up the quest on the run back when i saw everything was gone (npcs)

where do i pick this quest up again? i went to the pally in epl - nothing
i went to the hag at uther's tomb, all she does is transform me again. so i thought okay, just go back to hearthglen and do it over. but when i get there the guy doesn't have a ! and i can't even talk to him.

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Does anyone happen to know what the rewards are for this quest? I believe it is a trinket and a plate chest item, but I don't know the stats.

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Key is, if you die outside the tower, DONT RELEASE! You'll complete the quest. Enjoy the show!

*****SPOILER ALERT*****

This quest indicates the rebirth of the Order of the Silver Hand! Hopefully the expansion pack will have more to do with this storyline.

Edited, Sat Jul 16 12:48:02 2005

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Did this quest yesterday. Just stay in ur scarlet illusion form and follow him him. Don't involve in the fight. He will wipe out every one in his way, including the 4 elite 60s at a time. Once he reaches the main watch tower on the road, he stops and around 10 mobs attacks him including lvl 57s, 60s and a lvl 63. Position urself far enough to watch the show and not draw aggro. He will fight and die. Then in 1 minute, his dad, 63 elite, appears. He will wipe out everyone including the other 63. Now its safe to got him and he will reward you.
While following him, I illusion timed out and I was in real form. I tried to help him towards the end of the winning fights when there was only mob left. (just for fun)
Wardog lvl 60 warrior

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Got mind controlled and killed by Taelan. Released body and went back. Quest is lost and can't regain it. Did quest chain and 5 man scarlet stratholme for nothing. GG blizzard.

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Also helped me finish the Heroes darrowshire quest ;)

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I died 5-6 times doing this, so I thought I would post a strategy for warriors.

1 - Just keep your costume on until he gets to the front gate. There is nothing that gets close to killing him inside.

2 - At the front gate, the fight that you cannot handle is one where he simultaneously agros the front gate guards and elites. So, shoot the guards in turn as fordring is getting to the gate and pull them back to him for the kill. Once guards are gone, you can win against elites.

3 - On elites, I tried to let him solo them and he died 2/3 times. Since these are 60 elites, you are going to have a tough time taking aggro on one and living. So, let fordring beat on them for 30 secs or so and then pick the elite he has done the most damage too, taunt and sunder, and take this guy out. Repeat until they are all gone. This is all the help fordring needs.

4 - Just sit on the hill when he gets to the tower, let him die, father win, father cry, you die(at some point). Once dad has a gold ? above his head, rez at the graveyard and ride your horse back to get your reward.

Good luck, hope you don't die as many times as I did, it's a long trip back.

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I just did the quest, kept the disguise all the time. Finished without a problem, although I got slightly concerned sometimes. Did it solo ofc.

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Do you get choice of the three? I started the chain to get the trinket, but that breastplace is kickass.. I want them both. :/

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This one is broken for me... some horde ganked me after I completed the disguised quest but before I could start the next one... now he won't even talk to me, surrounded by 60 elites with no (!) above his head.

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I did this 10/28/05...kept the disguise on, watched the fight all the way to the lower tower, he died and i instantly got a "quest failed" message...then they agroed on me and killed me and i watched his Dad come and kill them all...while i was dead they had a chat etc, but when the fight was over there was no ? over the Dad's head...I released, ran back and he was still there, but would not talk to me...I got a new disguise and repeated 3 times, but got ganked during the escort each time and gave up for the night...

so, did they buff this quest and he must NOT die?

it seems that way, becuase i got a failed message the instant he died...

anyone do this after patch 1.8?

thnx
TAZ

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The reward is a choice of 5 items, don't remember which except the ones posted.
The quest is easily soloable by any class , just keep your distance and watch the paladin and then his father rip through l60 elites. he may need a little help when 5 or more come, but make sure to only attack the ones he has aggro on and never get hit.
Same when he dies and his father comes: wait for him to kill the first few and then help him out with the last couple of mobs.

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agreed. you need to break costume and help if you want to finish. this is as of feb 18 2006

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A friend who is a paladin did it just once, solo, succeeded no problem. Taelen pwned the 4 elites that came up the path and everything progressed normally.

Me, I've failed it now seven times and I'm really hating how much time I burned on it trying to do it the "stay in the disguise and let him kill everything" way. Those 4 level 60 Crimson Elite killed him every time for me. I hate those guys. Maybe I got harder ones than my friend did, or ... who knows. So frustrating. Finally I called in three other friends and we just did it the "help him kill everything way".

Then the hard part was choosing which of the several nice rewards to take. :) 3 of them made for nice feral/sometimes healing druid gear.

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Well as all others have posted you can do it 2 ways. Smartest way is really to help him all the way before the tower. You just need to hit on the once that he is hitting on. That means those that have some HP lost. He will keep aggro on those so you just have to add some dmg yourself, and snare if possible. If you not help him he will fight solo all the way and the 4 lvl 60 elite patrol will engage when he is fighting the entrance mobs. So give him a hand and it will go faster and the patrol will be just 4 instead of 4 + 1 entrance guard.
Then help him with the patrol as well, just hit on those that is hurt allready and you wont have any problems. At least I didn't as a lvl 60 War.
Also it depends on the spells he will be casting trying to heal himself, if he is lucky to get them in and not get stunned from the patrol.

Then you can do as the spoiler says. I was to close when he started to fight the Tower Inquistor and his friends so I died when Taelin was fighting but didn't hit release spirit button. His father shows up and makes sheez kebab out of those and you will get "Name of the Quest" (Completed) and you can release and run back and get the reward. Normally you will stay far out of the range when Taelin is fighting and you will just sit and watch and enjoy.

Happy hunting

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Ok.. Just failed again.. He keeps getting killed by the 4 'Scarlet Elite' Just outside the gates. And not just killed.. I mean OMGWTFPWNEDPEWPEWBBQ sauce. I don't think any of the elites were below half thanks to him switching targets so frequently. When he does stop to heal it takes forever and heals him less than 10%.

I reccomend having a mage friend come with you and sheep one of them and keep it sheeped while he fights.

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how the hell do you fell at this quest, all you have to do is whatch the whole thing while in disguise, dont help the npc he wont die until he is suposed too.....

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does taelan have to die? what happens, if ure in a big party and kill those mobs before they kill taelan? anyone tried this?

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attempt one:

I died and did not release as everyone recommended. The I had to log for personal reasons for 5 minutes and he was gone when I got back.

I abandoned and started again.

When I went past the tower he was there again (someone just finished) but I no longer had the quest... grrrrr

attempt two:

I decided to keep on the disguise and watch. The Scarlet patrol owned him. BAH!

Next time I will finish by hell or highwater!

Allakhazam의 댓글

I followed what was posted and I died and he died and it failed the quest. his dad never showed up either. Did this change with the last upgrade?

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This quest can be done solo. I had no problems with it as a level 60 Holy Priest. Kept the disguise up until the 4 elites after the gate, used SW:P and Smite on his target and I never drew aggro. I did die before he did at the tower, but watched the rest of the battle and waited for the yellow question mark. At which point, I released and ran back to my body and completed it. You should have plenty of time to get back.

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Not sure how this is soloable, he gets his ass kicked by the 4 lvl 60's patrolling just outside of hearthglen for me. If im near him, right as he uses holy shield to heal they all lose aggro and kill me. If I dont help, he dies :-P. If I help, I die

I've read of a 60 rogue stealthing through the whole thing, not quite sure why his didnt get owned by the 4 lvl 60's, but mine does.. 3 times now :P

Edited, Wed Mar 2 23:19:04 2005

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I try to complete the quest for the 6. time now, freaking allies are camping the area :\

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Just did this yesterday solo (60 Pally). Was really easy until the tower. I dropped my illusion to try to loot, but even when I initiated the combat, I could not loot any of the corpses. On the other hand, it was easy to lost aggro except on the tower part at the end. The storyline involves the priest looking for you, so I died. Just don't release until the quest is complete and Tirion will still be there when you make it back.

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I had the same problem with Taelan dying at the 4 lvl60 "Crimson Elite"s outside the gates. Apparently it's pure luck all the way with this quest. First time I tried it he ran into High Protector Lorik while he fought 4 scarlets just outside the keep, died as well. Not particularily funny since it takes at least 15 minutes each time you attempt the quest. I could NOT loot any bodies, I think this is a figment of Guuch's imagination.

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As sapphyredragon said, if you keep the disguise it's extremely easy, when he focuses the attention to you just keep yourself alive until the second elite kills all of the adds. Win ;)

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Finally succeeded on the fifth try.

One thing you should know is, results may vary! The timing will be different each time, in terms of when Taelan meets the patrol of 4, outside the gate.

1) You can easily find the short woman in Sorrow Hill, sitting on a tree stump, right at the corner (where you would go up to Uther's Tomb). Click on her to get your disguise (as a Scarlet Crusader). So if you fail the quest, just abandon quest and go back to her to get another disguise.

2) The disguise is good for 30 minutes: more than enough time to ride your mount north to Hearthglen. You take the road to the Lumber Camp, go north and around. You'll know if you're in the right area, as you will see many Scarlet guards (they'll be friendly because you're in disguise).

3) Ride all the way up to the big castle, it pretty much has the same layout as any other castle, e.g. Theramore Isle. Taelan will be upstairs, and there will be 4 Scarlet Crusaders around him. There should be a yellow exclamation mark over his head. Click on him to start the quest.

4) While you are inside the castle, keep the disguise on! Taelan can easily handle anyone inside.

5) Just outside the castle, he'll aggro some guards and finish them off. Then he will get on his horse. But he still moves very slowly, even when mounted.

6) The tricky part is the gate. There will be two guards there. When I completed the quest, Taelan was able to finish off those two guards *before* the patrol of 4 arrived. Then I removed my disguise (by right-clicking on the little icon) when the patrol arrived.

If the patrol arrives early (i.e. while you're still fighting the other 2 guards), it gets a little hairy. You or Taelan might die. If quest fails, abandon it and go back to step #1.

7) Taelan has a Devotion Aura, so you'll get a huge boost in armor. He'll be swinging away at all 4 elites, so it's not that easy to keep the aggro off you. Be prepared to take some damage. If you die here, the quest fails.

You must remove your disguise before the next step:

8) If you and Taelan survive step #7, the rest is easy. You'll continue to a tower, where Taelan talks trash with the Inquisitor. When combat begins, just take a swing at one of the Inquisitor's guards. You'll both die, but DO NOT release spirit.

9) Taelan's father will arrive, and mourn the loss of his son. Then he will seek revenge. Just sit there and watch him kick butt, and when combat ends you will see a message on your screen that the quest was completed.

10) If you see a yellow question mark over his head, then it's safe to release spirit and wisp back to your body.

11) Rez right next to the father, and claim your reward! For a warrior, the Breastplate is the best pre-Burning Crusade chestpiece you can get. The 2H mace is not all that special, when you consider how much work you put into this chain quest.

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All you need to know:

1. He will instruct you to remove your Scarlet Illusion. Do not.

2. You do not need to help him in combat from where he starts until the gates of Hearthglen. You can if you like, but it is not required. I found that snaring mobs for him saved me lots of time and additional mobs since he is not the best at chasing down runners.

3. At the gates of Hearthglen you may encouter a patrol of 4 level 60 elites. If you do, Fordring will likely die and there is nothing you can do about it (if you are solo). Once he gets a ways out of Hearthglen he becomes able to completely heal himself, so this same group of 4 level 60's is no problem.

4. When he approaches the East Tower down the road from Hearthglen, go south off the road and up on to the hill - watch from there. Do not get involved - you can not help and will only die. Fordring will die, and a minute later his father will come up and kill all the scarlets and give you your reward.

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If fordring dies before the end, drop the quest and go back to the Hag at Uther's tomb. She will give you another Illusion. Took me 3 times to get it right.

If you somehow get agro in the final fight and die, do not release your corpse. Wait until the father shows up and goes through his script, then release. He will still be there when you rez and come back.

Edited, Thu Apr 21 09:03:53 2005

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did as stated above he died at the last fight and quest failed. let the father kill them all he went into his speech but never became an interactive NPC

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Ok, I recommend staying in costume for as long as possible. More likely than not, he'll be able to make it outside of Hearthglen on his own.

But, when the 4 Crimson Elites show up, you'll possibly need to break your disguise and employ or skills to help him out. He might be able to take them down by himself, but he probably won't unless you assist him.

When he gets to the tower, just hide. Hide behind a tree away from any and all agro near the tower, or risk getting demolished by the next group of Elites + their little boss. Don't worry about what happens next. Without risking spoiling it for anyone who hasn't done it yet, let me just say that you aren't supposed to kill Isillien...

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Did it 26/02-2006

I just stayed in the fine costume to the end, even vs. the 4 Crimson Elites, which he took nicely care off though Fordring went to 30% hp.

When Fordring fought Isillien and *spoiler* died I was too close and even though I was in costume, Isillien choosed to make the end of my days. I didn't release by body, Fordring woke up from death, killed Isillien and my quest got complete while I was dead myself. I made a corpserun and made it in time, so I could choose my reward.

So the "hard" part in this quest-chain is finding a 5-man group to Stratholme Scarlet.

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Fordring is upstairs at the typical boss location for that kind of building, located at 42,14. You can choose to keep your disguise up and let him do all the work or you can drop your disguise and help him. I personally chose to drop mine in order to speed things along, but he's more than capable of dealing with anything but the 4 elites that come by himself. Only attack Fordring's targets and you won't ever draw agro.

After you clear the gates, you'll get attacked by the 4 elites everyone else has been talking about. Give him some time to build agro, and once again, just make sure to only attack his target..you'll both be fine.

The final fight takes place at a tower a little ways down the road. He tells you to protect yourself from the elite, and he's not joking. They MAULED me. Badly. However, I didn't (DID NOT) release my spirit. I stayed to watch the fight from my corpse. He dies, then his father (the originator of this questline) appears and kills EVERYTHING. Wait until his father is done with his little bit, it'll tell you that you've completed the quest and Fordring Sr. will stand up with a gold questionmark over his head. Release your spirit, run back as a ghost (I don't know how long you have, but I didn't have any trouble making it back in time), res at your corpse, and turn in the quest for your reward.
- OR have a friend waiting to res you after the fight, either way.

You can do this quest easily no matter what your class.

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If you fail and abandon the quest, is there a way to restart it?

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Besides the neckpiece, the plate breastplate and the 2H mace which have already been linked here there are two other possible rewards-

a ring that gives a bonus to healing:
폴드링의 인장 a cloak that gives int/stam/spirit:
망명의 외투 a hunter, I took Mark of Fordring, and I think it's the best call for most physical-damage classes. You can get good maces and breastplates and cloaks etc in other places, but as far as I know there's no better hunter neckpiece.

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10900 xp at 59 btw

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Just did the quest, no problems at all, stayed in disguise all the time, I soloed it...Well, he does all the work anyway.
When you come to the tower, just step away and watch the fight

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First quest of the chain is the kill quests from Tirion Fordring

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This has got to be the most horrible quest line I've ever encountered.
There's so many steps that require you to just run to a place and talk to a person, then return.
The last part has definitely got to be the worst. A stupid escort that requires a buff that only lasts 30 minutes to start, but it takes roughly 25-30 minutes for Taelen to re-spawn if another person already just started it. So there's a good chance your buff will run out before he does re-spawn.
Taelen is very strong yes, but he can have weird issues getting to the end location and he holds very little threat so trying to help him kill mobs will probably just get you killed and you'll fail. Finally, the last part requires him and possibly you to die, this brings further issues with many different reports of the quest not given credit despite Tirion showing up and doing his thing.
Ultimately, if not for the fact this quests just so happens gives Pre-Raid BiS for many classes, no one would ever do it, ever. The crooked hoops you have to jump through is far beyond even the jank charm that is Vanilla WoW.
Despite this being solo-able, if you're playing on a pvp server you better bring a group. Asshats will start a war over this quest and basically waste over an hour for everyone.

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There are a lot of old comments on this quest instructing you to maintain your disguise at all costs, even after Taelen approaches the tower where you get the Crusader enchant formula. However, you're very likely to fail this quest here. The problem is that the High Inquisitor mob must get the killing blow on Taelen for the quest to proceed as normal. If the elites get it, which is very likely when all five are hitting Taelen, you'll fail.

To maximize your chances of success, kite or tank/spank the elites that come down the road. The more of these elites you control, the more likely you'll be able to make the quest succeed.

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Our group Taelan was a beast. We never helped him against the final foe but he still managed to win, after he killed all his opponents, he stumbled his way to the front of the tower and died (probably some internal injuries...).
When Tirion arrived and shouted his challenge to get a revenge for his son, there was no one to answer him and the quest after a lot of waiting failed along with the NPC de-spawning.

Given how long this took and that no new Taelan is respawned while this 'escort' is in progress, it gets truly time consuming. I wish you all the best of luck with this quest.

Gulanga의 댓글

Ok how to do this quest solo.
I tried a few times and this method worked for me.

Escort the guy like normal while keeping your disguise on.

He will kill everything in his path, no need to help yet.

Outside the main large gate an Elite pack will attack him. These will likely kill him. So drop your disguise when he is at about 75% health (so you know he has aggro) and help out. Fear works great and for me even reset his hp to full.

When he gets to the tower Elites from that tower will attack him, as well as Elites from the road you just came down. Help him out with those and die trying.

Die close to the front of the tower where the battle takes place. DO NOT RELEASE.

Main villain dude will kill your escort guy.

After a bit Tirion should come. It can take a long while. If you time out and auto spawn at graveyard it didn't work.

When Tirion arrives he will kill everyone, be upset and then your quest will show as "Completed", once he stops talking.

You being there when Tirion finishes talking is likely the trigger for completion.

At this point I had 1 min left on release timer.

Release and run back. He will stay for 13 whole minutes (granted this could be tied to others starting the quest).

Talk to him and get your reward.

jfoobar의 댓글

Just did this. Stayed in costume until the four guys jump him on the road and then only did very slow ranged dps on his target and never drew aggro. Stayed out of aggro range at the tower (well behind the stump) and watched and did not die. Helped Fordring dps some of the adds after he shows up just to speed things along. Listened to his monologue, got quest complete, got my schwag, profit.

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Just finished this after 2 days.

It bugged the first time: got him all the way to the tower (costume still on), he went through the whole RP event, and died, as intended. But his father didn't show up at all. I was unsure if it was on some sort of timer, so waited for about 20 minutes. Decided to attack the NPC's just to check - I died, and nothing. Released, and the quest failed. Back to my body, then back to Myranda for another costume, then back to Taelan to try start it again.

I found players of the opposing faction already waiting for him to spawn. I was outnumbered, and got killed. Back to my body, then back to Myranda for another costume, then back to Taelan to try start it again. He's on a long respawn timer - what I found works to hang onto your costume is to simply log off in one of the corners in the room he spawns in - you won't lose the buff. I had to do this repeatedly until he eventually spawned, with no opposing faction players around.

I was eventually able to start the quest, and after wiping all NPC's in the room around him (including picking up a pat that came in), he makes his way down the stairs, and kills everything at the bottom (including the two rooms on the way out). Thanks to people already farming the area, there were a few less mobs for him to take on. Down the path, we encountered the now famous pack of 4 elites - they hit him very hard. It was at this point that my buff wore off, and I decided to jump in to help, because he really does struggle here. Always attack the target he's attacking - you can't out-aggro him, so go ham. Once all were dead, he slowly makes his way down to the tower, and the mobs come out to start the event. Don't bother helping him here, just stand on the hill opposite the tower and watch the show.

He dies as intended (again), but this time, his father comes within about a minute, and wrecks all the NPC's, after which you can complete the quest. A really long and interesting quest chain comes to a fitting conclusion - oh, and I got my pre-raid BiS neck piece as a reward!

Fuzzyion의 댓글

I have tried to do this quest 3 times now and failed each though the first one was because the rogue i was with started the escort quest before i had handed in the previous part.

The second time i tried to do this quest i followed Taelen down the road towards the pack of 4 elite mobs. From reading everyones instructions he should handle them no problem.

Unfortunately for me this wasn't the case and i saw (too late) that he was close to dying after killing 2 of the mobs, i jumped into battle trying to stun/dps down the other 2 but Taelen died and i failed the quest.

The third time i tried i was teamed up with another paladin, i assured him that we didn't need to do anything but just to be safe help the NPC if needed.
Thankfully there was no elite pack on the way to the tower, when we arrived i told the paladin to stand back on the hill and not interfere, i said Taelen will fight and eventually die whereupon Tirion would come in and kill everything.

Taelen fought, Taelen died, quest failed, Tirion didn't show up.

Time taken so far on this quest is 1 hour and 30 min.

So much for being easy.

Cowpaly의 댓글

DO NOT try to summon a party member. Anyone who clicks the portal will lose the illusion. The warlock will not however.

Oldbury의 댓글

Had this bug on me today where I didn't get the quest completion but everybody else in my group did. While it's possible that I was out of completion range, I was still quite close to Fordring.

My recommendation is to stay close to Tirion when he spawns to ensure you're close enough.

Nobleshield의 댓글

I've been trying to do the quest just before this (where you get the disguise and have to talk to him) for like 3 days, and every time someone starts it and then it's like a 20-30 minute wait for him to come back. Today I finally managed to turn that in and start this.. get to the tower where Grand Inquisitor spawns. The elites arrive, end up killing Taelan, and then his body despawned about a minute later. No Tirion, quest didn't show failed, nothing. After a few minutes, Inquisitor and his henchmen despawned too.

EDIT: Just tried it again solo and this time he died to the first group of 4 Crimson Elite that walks up the path. Tried to heal him (Holy Pally) but I didn't seem able to cast spells on him even without the disguise.

As awesome as the quest rewards are, this quest is just a super pain in the ass to do.

naitis의 댓글

You CAN die on the boss there is no prob and it doesnt fail the quest. Just DONOT release or accept ress till Tirion kills , cry and is ready to turn in(ie quests goes to completed state) The ress and run back

crash90의 댓글

Okay guys, so I'm here to share my experience with this quest and to tell my tale of sorrow and perhaps caution. As of this moment, 22.11.2019 evening, I've had around 8 or 9 tries with this quest and I've yet to complete it. I might even go on and claim, that I know pretty much everything you can know about this quest and the mechanics right now.
So first of all SPOILERS AHEAD.
As all of you have probably read by now, you can't mine or pick herbs with the disguise. So just don't do it, even though Hearthglen has those really appealing Rich Thoriums sometimes.
So when you finally get your disguise and ride up to hearthglen just head to the big castle like building in the back and go to the 2nd floor. Assuming nobody else is doing the quest at that moment (if you ran into an unnaturally tall big dude going apedung on scarlet NPC:s with 0,9sec attack speed 2-h sword - somebody else is doing the quest) you walk up to Taelan and turn in the prequest. Now the part that never gets mentioned is that when you turn in Scarlet subterfuge, Taelan enrages, which actually gives him a long lasting buff. He then kills the guards in the room and offers you the next part, this very quest "In Dreams". On we go, accept and follow him. Don't remove the disguise when he tells you, makes your life easier. If you did it anyway by accident or it wore off, then just stay behind Taelan and try not to aggro anything extra.

He will exit the main building, then saddle up proceed to slaughter every scarlet npc on his way to the main gate. At the main gate or a bit after, you will see 4 elites patrolling. Crimson Elite is the name and they are all lvl 60. This is no problem for Taelan normally, they will get him down to like 30%, but he will kill them all solo. HOWEVER, if you're like me and trying to do this quest again after failing it for some reason the first time, then you probably won't have the Scarlet Subterfuge part anymore and will have to start from this quest. This means, that Taelan never enrages. Remember I mentioned his 0,9s swing timer? Without enrage it is around 1,8... so basically he will hit 2 times slower and he will be much less efficient at killing scarlet zealots. He will most probably need your help with the four elites now. Just be careful not to get aggro from them and you'll be fine.
After the elites go down comes the most confusing and frustrating phase of the quest. Taelan approaches a tower and an inquisitor comes out. After some talking, they start fighting. Taelan will lose and die. And you have to die with him(unless you a rogue, but even then I'd die beside him just to be sure you in range for completion). DO NOT RELEASE YOUR SPIRIT. After you lay there for a while, Tirion will arrive. Some mourning and RP ensues and after that he wrecks the guys that killed his son. This can take a while, and by that I mean you will most probably have around 1-2 minute left on auto-release. Don't be like me and wait "only" 2 minutes and then release. The time it takes for Tirion to show up apparently differs wildly, some guys I've helped with this quest had him pop almost instantly, some gotta wait for 4 minutes.
Anyhow, once you get the completion credit you release and run back to your corpse, resurrect and turn in the quest to Tirion. You're welcome.

Let's recap this again, shall we?
1. Do not mine or pick herbs once you have the disguise (tbh, stay off the road too, ppl get ganked when riding up north)
2. When you get the quest, don't remove your disguise.
3. Just follow Taelan closely and watch him wreck Scarlets
4. If he is not enraged, help him a bit with the Crimson Elites
5. At the tower when he loses the battle to the inquisitor, die close to him
6. Do not release and patiently wait for Tirion to arrive.
7. When Tirion is done avenging and you get the completion credit, release and run back to rez.
8. Get your quest reward from Tirion.
9. Enjoy your pre-raid BiS neck(or whatever else u pick)

Now for the tale of sorrow I promised...
I hate reading ahead and spoiling stuff for myself, so I had no idea how this quest goes when I first attempted it.
#1 Took the disguise from hag > rode to the scarlet path > realised they all red. Wtf, why did it disappear? Must've been the wolf that engaged me on my way and I killed it, no idea. Riding back for a new disguise.
#2 Got new disguise, went north again, tried to avoid all combat. Some rich thorium just beside main castle gate. Ofc I take it. Disguise wears off.... I learned something that moment.. Riding back for a new disguise..
#3 Didn't mine anything this time, went into the main castle where Taelan is. On my way up I bump into some fellow hordes doing the quest. I decide I'd sit down and wait for Taelan to respawn. Spoiler alert: your disguise times out before he respawns. (depending on amount of mobs he has to kill on his way it can take around 30 mins for him to respawn after someone takes the Q)... Riding back for a new disguise.
#4 Finally managed to turn in my quest to the guy, everything going good, he wrecking guards and all. Followed him all the way to the tower, stayed near him when he battled the inquisitor. He dies > inquisitor switches to me even tho my disguise is still on. I die and wait for a good 2 minutes... then I decide &*!@ is bugged and release. Later I learn that if only I had waited for around 2 more minutes, I'd complete the quest... Riding back for a new disguise.
#5 Talked to Taelan again, started the quest. Outside the main gates Crimson Elites come. They kill Taelan. At that point I realise he was not enraged anymore and could not take em all. Riding back for a new disguise.
#6 Same $%^& again, waited through all the rp and slaughtering, this time I helped Taelan with the Crimson Elites, I went in when he had around 20% hp and like 3 guys left. He survived with around 7% hp that try. Onward we go to the tower. At this point, because of my last try I went to wowhead and read like only the first comment which said "back up against the hill opposite the tower". Well that's what I did, I was far enough no to hear the conversation anymore. I watched Taelan fight and die. Then nothing happened for a few seconds, inquisitor did not engage me. Then the horrible sound of a failed quest was heard... ~~Riding back for a new disguise.~~ I ragequit for the day :)))

#7 So this was today. Before this try I read all the comments for this quest and knew what to do. When I was going to get my disguise, the general chat was full of messages about some rogue ganking low lvl guys. I actually run into him and I try and avenge them. Left him with 5% hp. He then corpse ganks me for a moment and I go on with my quest. Now why is this relevant? Coz this guy actually stealthed all the way into hearthglen to see if somebody was doing the quest. And guess what, that was me. Was almost at the main gates with Taelan. He of course ganks me and kills me, gg. Riding back for a new disguise.
#8 I recruited some guys to bodyguard me while I do this. On our way in, somebody else was doing the quest (almost at tower, so not that long for respawn). So I went in the main room to wait for Taelan to respawn. Suddenly a lvl 60 human warrior spawns in, he apparently logged out to wait for the questgiver too. We stared at each other for a while, but we both knew what this meant. He had much better gear than me.

I hate this quest.

FML

Leus

9622hojo의 댓글

Stay close to the guy even if you have to die or you won't get credit!

Khold의 댓글

Take 3#: Just behind Highlord Taelan Fordring's spawn spot, there was a chest. I was gonna loot it while waiting for Highlord to respawn. I lost the Illusion and died to his guards :)

kreepy의 댓글

So in classic wow, phase 3, he definitely can die on the way over, and the escort can easily take 25 min unassisted. We lost him to the pack of 4 scarlet elites that pat just outside of hearthglen. He didn't focus fire any of the 4, and never healed, but he womped on everything up to that point.

McCree의 댓글

Strange, my Taelan actually died to the four elites, and I had to start over...

Profits의 댓글

You don't need to die in order to solo the quest, you can just stand off to the side of the tower and let everything play out. Taelan will die, then a minute later Tirion will show up and solo everything.

Also, yes, there seems to be a roaming pack of 4 elites that will completely wreck Taelan if you don't help him out. If you're soloing, just get on your mount and take off the illusion, then aggro the 4-pack and just kite them around on your mount while Taelan walks past.

Obika의 댓글

So... I did everything as planned, watched him murder the whole town, helped him kill the 4 elites pack, watched him get killed by Isillien the baddy at the tower, stayed near his body... And then nothing happened for 7 minutes. Tirion never came, his body despawned and the quest failed. Great.

Molniya의 댓글

Did this solo in Classic - took me a few hours now - several attempts. He dies to the Elites pat every time if I don't help out. I've seen a few comments saying that he doesn't do it every time, and I'm sure it's possible - but if you don't want to spend your entire day here, help him out. If you're going to DPS, make sure you target HIS target, he will change it often, especially if you're playing a class that does a ton of damage or builds a lot of natural threat. You can also help control the runners at this point, which will limit them pulling extra and making it harder for him to stay alive.

Don't be fooled by how trivial he makes the Paladins, Priests, etc. look - those four Elites will shred him, especially if they pull while he's already fighting something else. Fearing them works, but I'd recommend mounting up, pulling them all to him and letting him pick them off one at a time while you kite them around on your mount. If you get knocked off, drag them to him and he'll cleave them off you so long as you can survive.

I did this and died after he had killed two of them. I took a deep breath, released and ran back - he will still alive killing the Elites. I helped him finish off the last two and completed the quest with no other issues. I stood on the hill behind the tower and watched the priest kill him - waited for Tirion and that was that. There is a LOT of misinformation and assumption here - but lots of things are possible and it's not the end of the world if you die - only if he does before engaging the priest. Good luck and have fun.

vadiks2003의 댓글

incompletable quest. not only this dude is slow even on his horse, not only you might get killed by enemy fraction druid, this dude simply dies while fighting 4 patrolling guys and quest suddenly goes failed. helping him doesn't help since they have damage of 900 and they kill in 5 autoattacks. i spent 10 attempts on this and i don't want to do any more. classic IS a trash without a friends

HordeRestoDruid의 댓글

Absolute worst quest in the game hands down.Just terrible game design from top to bottom ,what the hell were they thinking?

Greyvax의 댓글

The cape is pretty crappy compared to the other rewards. Feels bad as a warlock.

Cyoor의 댓글

Takes around 24 min 30 sec to complete without interracting.
You can fail by running to far away, but dont worry as long as you see him
Your suit will not protect you from the boss at the tower, so keep your distance if you want to survive.
If you die in the end, do not release. You will complete the quest while being dead. Just run back again when you have completed it.

Lightshadow86의 댓글

From a HC perspective and summarize what has been said:
This quest is fine all the way until he exits the gate.
Then an elite patrol MIGHT aggro him. If they do, he will probably need your help. I've read sometimes he might LoH and at times he might even manage if they are attacked in the right order. It is kind of luck. But you should help here, and it is safe IF you attack the targets he has aggro on, and do not do any AoE. The Crimson Elites hit like a truck, they will two shot clothies.

At the last part at the tower, stay away. I stayed behind the stump. It is a good marked spot! And WAIT! it takes time for Tirion to show up. From there the quest is done!
IN HC, be ready to RUN incase things go wrong. Have a escape plan. Bring swiftness potions / stay on your mount. If you are too close in that last part at the tower, you suddenly get 4 elites on you, and you might just die there and its over. Stay away! its better to fail the quest and redo than to die! It's that type of quest, where margins decide if you live or die, espcially if you have not done the quest and don't know what you are going into. Stay safe

Sixhacks의 댓글

Maintain your disguise and don't try to help whatsoever. Your job is to watch. It's that easy. I mined a node of thorium and it broke the disguise so be forewarned. I watched from a distance because I knew that if I aggroed anything I was toast. Daddy came out and threw out a spell on Jr then the yellow ? popped and I grabbed my loot despite having broke my disguise. So my advise is don't break the disguise and just watch the show.

Dreals의 댓글

This quest is cancer...... my disguise wore off without him respawning.

Muzurio의 댓글

Spare yourself A LOT of frustrating and skip this quest. Did it 3 times, all 3 times it got bugged.

Sabre4712의 댓글

If he bugs out, try running to the end point of the escort. I found Tirion in front of the tower to turn in the quest. Taelen never even left the room he starts in.

dimon7777의 댓글

To all my fellow explorers with curious mind: Nope, you can't get into scarlet monastery and feels as if you had an ashbringer - the buff fades away as soon as u leave WPL.

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