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Comentario de 2338

If you are interested in the proc rate of crusader then read this.

http://rogerkarlsson.com/blogs/wow/crusader/

In short, the proc rate for lifestealing is based on your weapon speed, and the approximate proc rate for any given weapon can be found via this formula.

proc rate (%) = weapon speed * 1.82

Comentario de Wedmark

It is possible to enchant both your Main-Hand and your Off-Hand with Crusader. They stack. Thus giving +200 Strength if both procs at the same time.

Comentario de netherbane

Ever wonder why these weapon enchants never report a percentage for the proc, just that it has a chance?

That's because these procs don't have a general percentage to proc. Instead, all weapon enchants like fiery, icy, crusader, etc have a BASE CHANCE to proc, which is then modified by weapon speed.

Basically, the enchants are all targeted at providing a consistent DPS/Buff level across all weapon types. Say the base chance to proc is 10% based on a 2.5 speed weapon. You would then see that drop to 6.8 ( 1.5 / 2.5 = 68% | 68% of 10% ). Likewise, if you were using a weapon with a slow swing speed like 3.8 you would have a realized proc rate of 15.2%.

And with additional reading provided below, the actual rate has been discovered to be:

Chance on hit (%) = weapon speed * 1.82

In otherwords, your 1.7 speed dagger gets a 3.094% chance to proc, and the 3.8 speed 2h mace gets a 6.916% chance to proc.

In other words, weapon speed doesn't matter.

You will not get more procs from items that give you extra attacks or increase your attack speed. I.E. Thrash Blade or Hand of Justice extra attack proc, or Seal of the Crusader increase attack speed will not increase the amount of procs on the Crusader.

Comentario de Darkweave

This is a very cheap enchant I would have to say get it if you would like another 100 strength for doing damage good for fury warriors.

Comentario de SeriusJones

Best Mainhand for a combat sword rogue. I don't know the exact math behind it, but it is based on PPM (procs per minute), and performs well on a slow sword.

The Str is a nice AP boost, and the healing is no joke in raids and PvP either. I myself am more of a lifesteal guy, but this is right on par with it (more dmg, less heal).

- SJ

Comentario de 8128

Our main tank uses this enchant. He loves the bonuses that it has, since i put it on his sword he has actually noticed it is a little easier to hold agro during our dungeon runs and raids.

Comentario de Magmy

Since Crusader is a level 60 spell, it does less every level you are above 60. The exact amount is -4% effectiveness per level.

So at level 70 (a 40% reduction), Crusader only gives +60 Strength and only heals for 45-75 health. The tooltip still states you're getting 100 Strength, but if you look upon your character sheet, the increase is only by 60. Of course, this is the same for any tooltip in the game.

Comentario de thebrassthief

Can you still enchant Crusader on lower level items? I thought they put restrictions on this when tBC hit.

Comentario de 9117

All the old enchants can still be put on low level items, only the new TBC enchants have level requirements

Comentario de gamepin126

Confirmed double proc'ing. Lvl70 Enh Shaman.

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/522/wow2007031220570362op1.png

Comentario de 36705

I don't understand why they are decreaseing the effectiveness of this chant as you level. I mean, as you increase in level the amount of strength you would get from this would be steadily less apealing anyways since you can probably find better chants. Why not just make a better chant as apposed to making this one a crappy one?

Comentario de Thottbot

How does the proc work with rogue special attacks ? Say I put crusader on a trashblade (spee 2.70), then the chance is 5.40%. However the special rogue strikes allow for a lot of extra schwings. Does crusader proc on special moves ?

Comentario de Thottbot

Just love this enchant..
But i think its more than 3%, seems like it anyways. The funny thing is that sometimes it strikes even if i miss the target.

Comentario de Thottbot

Does anyone know if this procs in bear- and catform for druid?If so I will definetely buy it.

Comentario de Thottbot

It is a white glow, kickass look, not green like mentioned above ... and I'm not gonna be an ass and flame him out for it ... green glow is normally agility (im about 95% sure of that) but i know crusader is white glow.

Comentario de Thottbot

Here is a picture of Crusade enchant, its pretty boring but its still cool. There is also a picture of Crusade proc'ing. I didnt scape them down so u could see proc text and stuff.
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5650/crus1df.png

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4838/crus29ia.jpg

Comentario de Thottbot

Can crusader proc anymore from Seal of Command proc?

Comentario de Thottbot

This is a random proc based on you being engaged in combat and doing dmg. Procs that activate off hits say "Chance on hit:". My stats from procwatch for a sample of over 4 hours of actual combat time is 2.1 procs per min.

Comentario de Thottbot

Here's an article on the Crusader enchant, which presents a formula to calculate the chance of getting a proc for any weapon. The article also looks briefly at stacking and how Crusader interacts with gear that increase healing effects:

http://rogerkarlsson.com/blogs/wow/crusader/

Comentario de Thottbot

I have a level 19 super Twink Rogue on Llane. I have Assasins blade and Cruel barb. I have had fiery, LifeStealing and now Crusaders on both. Crusader by far is the most effective and proc's the most. i have run the stats on my damage meters and Crusader way out Heals and procs than the others. For those of you wanting to know if it stacks....YES!. I have only had it stack once, but it does happen, and I was able to 2 hit a 19 warrior twink and kill him...it was awesome.

I suggest Crusader over LS and Fiery hands down.

Assessino

Comentario de Thottbot

The nerf on Crusader is, at every level past 60 (starting at 61), there is a 4%/level nerf.

Meaning at level 70 it's +60 Strength.

That being said, with all the heralding about a nerf, it's great for melees just pulling up into their 45-50 range (especially warriors picking up an IBS), managed to get Crusader for 45g grand total, where before the orbs would have run me more than that.

Comentario de Thottbot

I'm using it at level 70, it still gives 60 str (120 ap) making it better than savagery. You might argue the point that savagery is permanent whereas crusader is a proc, but it procs so much its a lot like being permanent. Especially considering how expensive Savagery is.

The heal it gives still helps, too.

Comentario de Allakhazam

I'm thinking about getting either crusader or lifesteal enchant for Destiny that also has a strength proc. Does anyone know if Destiny and Crusader will stack? Should I get something other than a strength proc enchant for Destiny?

Comentario de Allakhazam

it will NOT work in forms, NO proccs works for druids in forms.
Also, i feel that ALOT of people here has written alot of things that are wrong about this procc.
Dual wielding this, CAN procc from both weapons, resetting the initial 15sec timer, AND giving you Holy-Strength^2 (which means, it will give you 200STR)

Comentario de Allakhazam

I grabbed this from a link below but it seems that people are asking the same garrulous questions about this enchant. RTFR before posting.

On a similar note, nobody gives a rat's ass how long it took you to get it.

% to Proc = Weapon Speed * 1.82

Reference: Crusader Enchant

Edited, Nov 2nd 2006 at 10:16am PST by smitster

Comentario de Allakhazam

Im making a twink and was wondering if i could get this enchant on both of my weapons? if not i was giong to get crusader and lifestealing but hopefully i can get it on both any 1 know?

Comentario de Allakhazam

some one know if u can ench crusader or lifestealing on a lvl 15-19 weap? i am doing a 19 twink and it´s really imba if i could have that on my weap =P

Comentario de Allakhazam

Yep... it glows white. I saw one just yesterday. :)

Comentario de Allakhazam

Wat i really need to kno is, Do the proc rates change on duel wield at all or does it add 200 strength per proc ?

Comentario de Allakhazam

why I like to play this game - it reminds me of math class!

Comentario de Allakhazam

First to let you know I do not have this enchant, and might be biased, so feel free to flame me.

In theory the effect would stack if dual wielding. This based on my knowledge of the shaman weapon buffs. When I am using windfury or rockbiter, these buffs will go on my weapon, not my char (I can equip a different weapon, and the buff is gone, and requip, and it's back). They will, however, not stack on my weapon, as one replace the other. With crusader, they will if dual wielding. The crusader is procced on one weapon, and will give the buff to this weapon, then it might proc on the other weapon, and then give the buff to that weapon, giving you one buff on each weapon, and therby stacking the effect. If the first weapon proccs again, it will reset that timer, just as with flurry.

Hope this was helpful, and as I said, I don't know this for sure, but I doubt Blizzard would write a whole new code when they already have it ready.

Now, what is interesting to see, is wheter crusader and WF stack. That would be nice.

Lashes of apology...

Comentario de Allakhazam

are high level enchants restricted to high level items? like could i enchant a lvl 42 item with crusader?

Comentario de Allakhazam

If I were to put this enchantment on both of my daggers:

1) Suppose the proc rate would increase a bit?
2) Would it be able to proc more than once every 15 seconds?
3) If it does proc more than once per 15 seconds, would it reset my +100 strength timer, or just heal me and keep the 15 seconds going from the first proc.?

Comentario de Allakhazam

why would rogues want this enchacnt when there is smth like +15 agi on 1H

Comentario de Allakhazam

Does this make the enchanted weapon glow (sort of like Minor Beast Slaying)?

Comentario de Allakhazam

No, non-enchanters can get it. Do get something enchanted, you start a trade and place the item in the Not To Be Traded window and the enchanter enchants your weapon/armour.

Enchanting costs a lot to the enchanter, so they might want you to supply the reagents (check the AH for pricing).

Comentario de Allakhazam

I was always told that things proc PER HOUR, not per minute. The only thing which really has the ability to raise a proc rate is somthing like "slice and dice" or windfury, which has it's own proc timer and essentially "gives" more procs per hour by tricking the timer into thinking more time has gone past and allowing the enchantment to speed up on it's hourly releases.

That's just what I've heard, does anyone know if the Development team has said anything about it yet?

Comentario de Allakhazam

can't wait to get my Warrior to lvl 50
Dual Weild Fury Warrior with 2x Crusader Hanzo's
just need to find the Orbs (with my main lvl 60) or buy them

Comentario de Allakhazam

Permanently enchant a melee weapon so that often when attacking in melee it heals for 75 to 125 and increases Strength by 100 for 15 seconds.

I just got this Enchant. I've got mutiple procs for Strength, but I have yet to see that I was healed for 75-125. Can anybody verify that it does heal since the last few patches?

Comentario de Allakhazam

can some one tell me how much it cost each as of feb 24,07

Comentario de Allakhazam

one weapon procs crusader the buff goes up the second weapon procs a second buff goes up and they are additive if the first weapon procs again the first buff refreshes if the first debuff wears and second one is up still and first weapon procs again 2 buffs will again appear however if first weapon buff drops and second one reprocs the buff will only refesh still having only one buff ie each weapon with crusader will buff independantly of one another totally separate buffs with totally seperate timers on them.

Comentario de Allakhazam

It's been 2 years since the first post!

BTW- Crusader doesn't stack...

Comentario de Allakhazam

it should do more than that, bloody godly enchant :]

Comentario de Allakhazam

does this mean non-enchanters cant get it? cause that would suck >.< sorry, don't know how enchanting works

Comentario de Allakhazam

does anyone know if it would work on a druid in bear form?

Comentario de Allakhazam

Can any1 tell me what's best enchant for rogue on dagger? This, +5dam or Icy weapon? thx..

Comentario de Allakhazam

So crusader...

Procs chance/per hit or procs/per minute?
If it works /per hit then I might go for +15str instead on my 2Hander.

Comentario de Allakhazam

This has already been gone over several times, but it seems many are still confused as to how this works while DWing.

Crusader does NOT stack with itself (No +100 then +200 then +300 STR)...
MH and OH crusaders CAN stack individually (Two seperate +100 STR). If the MH procs while still under the crusader effect from a previous MH hit, the strength will not stack again, but rather simply refresh the timer, making your previous +100 STR buff last longer. The same is true for the OH. However, everytime the proc occurs, whether the crusader effect is still on you or not, it will heal you, and the heal is not affected by +healing gear, as of patch 1.7.

And yes, it glows a dull white. Not to be confused with the Icy Chill enchant, which is a very bright white glow. Crusader also procs much more frequently than Icy does.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Got 2 crusader recipes off my first three kills ;p also got a portals<-----------whatever the hell that does. Horde is the only way to go.

Comentario de Allakhazam

what is the proc of crusader?

Edited, Fri Feb 25 20:41:44 2005

Comentario de Allakhazam

wow, ive just read most of that, and all ive been seeing are the same things being said over and over agian in different ways. yet, for some reason im about to add to it. The proc rate is simply increased with slower weapons and decreased with faster weapons. so weapon speed increasing effects would increase the the amount of times it procs because the rate stays the same. i dont wanna think about what that means for dual weilding.

p.s. did i spell viscous right?

Comentario de Allakhazam

i bought this for 40g on my hearthseeker. pretty cheap i guess.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Can this proc more then once and restart the timer? I only hope it doesn't stack the str bonus.

Edited, Tue Aug 9 15:37:48 2005

Comentario de Allakhazam

When the weapoin procs, it casts a spell "Crusaider - Target Self - Instant" You can not cast a spell on yourself twice to gain twice the benifits. Any spell that has a timer on the ability, when the spell is recasted, the initial spell is removed and a fresh one put in its place.

Like if Crusaider was the Shaman's Lightning Shield. It procs, you get a shield that damages anyone that hits you for 3 hits, and lasts 10 minutes. Some one hits you twice, and thier is 8 min left on the timer. The buff procs again (pretending its on a sword), the initial LS is lost, including the 1 remaining charge. In its place, a new LS, 3 chargers with 10 min timer, is put in its place. Even if dual yeilding, it will work the same. Just procs more, thus healing more, and being allot more reliable.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Sorry but can other classes use this entchant not just palladins?

ps.:jakemaster

Comentario de Allakhazam

Holy crap, man wish i knew a master enchanter, i'd pay 50 gold for this on one of my items. ><

Comentario de Allakhazam

slap that on the super rare 1h epic drop from Emperor Thaurissan, Ironfoe, and with it's 3-strike Proc you're gonna deliver a can o' whoop-ass upon your enemy :)

Comentario de Allakhazam

does it stack? is it possible to get +200 or +300 strength at a time if your weapons are fast enough?

Comentario de Allakhazam

dual weild that on a rogue with high speed daggers (speed 1.5 or lower) and your enemy is in a world o' hurt

Comentario de Allakhazam

I just got this enchant for 80g.

I only see the Holy strenth proc, is the healing proc much more rare or does it proc at the same time as holy strength and Im not seeing it?

Comentario de Allakhazam

No you did not. It's "vicious".

Comentario de Allakhazam

do you guys recomend a rogue getting this on MH and OH or something else?

Comentario de Allakhazam

It's like Minor Beast Slaying except the sparkles/or bubbles are white in color.

It doesn't proc very often for me with a 2.00 speed axe (about 1 in every 50 hits or so) and I'm guessing the heal is the moment it procs and not every time you hit while under the effect as I can't tell any noticable difference. The str part of the enchant is correct.

Comentario de Allakhazam

On my server, this is going for 80 gold per enchant.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Have any of the people who think it doesn't stack actually tried?
Obviously not, dont make comments when your talking crap.

Comentario de Allakhazam

I might be the luckiest bastard in the world. About a week ago, I got a deathbringer off of onyxia. I slapped a crusader enchant on it, and I love it.
The next time our guild runs ony, I go. I get ANOTHER deathbringer. I was extatic. I was wondering if I should get another crusader, or if i should get strength or agi to compensate for my weapon's lack of stats

thanks, and have a good turkey day : P

Comentario de Allakhazam

is the ppm the same on your off hand as on your main hand? in other words is an enchant like this still as effective on your off-hand as your main hand

Comentario de Allakhazam

So crusader got nerfed for 60+?
Anyone try to see what the proc rate on it is now?
I don't see why it's necessary to nerf crusader for 60+. Just make other enchantments stronger. Some where along the way, a fixed amount of +strength is going to be better than crusader enchant.

Also, didn't crusader used to require 4 orbs? Now only two?

Comentario de Allakhazam

About how big dps different is +100 strength?

Comentario de Allakhazam

Many people here are mistaken about weapon procs. The speed of the weapon will not make it proc any faster. Each enchant has a different proc rate and will proc a set number of times per minute. Fiery weapon procs a lot icy chill rarely for example. On a fast dagger it may proc once every 5 swings on a slow 2 hander every 2 swings. The number of procs per minute will be the same in each case. The only way you will get more procs per minute is if you have something to speed the number of swings per minute. Examples are flurry or the shamans windfury. Both of these will lead to more procs per minute.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Cause +15agi=15 attack powe while a +100str=100 attack power and the procc of this is simply amazing. That's why!

Comentario de Allakhazam

a guildie and I tested some proc rates today. we are both rogues and wanted to know what combination of 15agi and crusader worked best (ie: crusader main, agi off/ double crusader etc.). we had a feral druid sit and take my friends hits until he recorded @500 hits. it seemed as if the theory (actually fact, but some people refuse to admit they're wrong) of it being on a minute timer was correct. he had the hakkari warblade set (1.7 speed each) both with crusader and used blade fury and SS to get 5CP SnD whenever possible. He would go for about 40-50 hits (calcualting weapon speed and increased speed, about 1 min), and then have 3-4 procs in a row. this ended up with final results of 22procs/500-510 hits.
he then pulled out a glacial blade (no crusader) to test the procs from each hand. main hand warblade did about 14/505, and off hand was doing just 4 procs lower on the same amount of hits. further testing should probably be done to see the benefits of 15agi, but we ran out of time for the night. just from this demonstration, i think with fast weapons, double crusader is not as beneficial as the 15 atp and .5% crit from 1 crusader (main hand) and 15 agi on the off hand.

Comentario de Allakhazam

I just got it on my off hand and the guy said matts were still around 100 gold on Stormreaver Server. I traded up and gave him 2 primal fires, 2 primal mana, and 2 primal shadows. Roughly that comes to 2 x's 25 gold (fire), 2 x'2 19 gold (mana), and 2 x's 1 gold (shadow), so around still around 90 gold.

Nice thing was I was farming primals for my dragon LW so I only needed to buy 1 fire and 1 mana because I had the rest lol. Cost me 44 gold:)

Comentario de Allakhazam

I love this enchant, Just got it on my Lord Alexander's Battle Axe, Nifty enchant.

Comentario de Allakhazam

my frined=my friend warrior 19 twink has taht and says he can kill a mage in one hit
so like charge boom dead....
he has all blues so hes crazzzy good twink

Comentario de Allakhazam

this only glows white. probably the best enchantment for a weapon.

Comentario de Allakhazam

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Edited, Jun 26th 2007 4:09pm by Monkofxev

Comentario de Allakhazam

where dose the damn thing drop?

Comentario de Allakhazam

I have Alexanders Battle Axe. Got this on. *85g* every 3-4 hits it procs.... On average I get 250-350 Damage but when it proc's on my paladin things can go mad with Revenge Talent and others....I can get sveral 1000+ shots one after the other....shocks the life out of the Horde during PvP... Put Command Seal on with Might Bless and Might Aura....Hit a 60 Shammy and it was all over in 3 hits....with the speed increase of buff's etc seemed like it took 2-3 seconds...incredible..nearly 5k of damage. Sweet sweet moment. Makes up for those crap moment when you wonder if the game is bugged he's swinging so slow for crap points.

Comentario de Allakhazam

I would say its glows Gray

Comentario de Allakhazam

As I stated earlier I said: No, it doesn't stack but since 1.10 I've noticed that strength buff do stack but only if you have two enchants (might have done it pre 1.10 too, but I haven't noticed it til now).
Here are some examples:

a. you have one crusader enchant (regardless of mh/oh)
- when it procs, you get 100 str + 75-125 healing for 15 sec
- if it procs again during these 15 secs, the 15 sec timer will reset and you will receive 75-125 healing. You wont get 200 str!

b. you dualwield and have two crusader enchants
- say your mh procs you will get 100 str + 75-125 healing
- if the mh procs again during these 15 secs, the 15 sec timer will reset and you will receive 75-125 healing. You wont get 200 str!
- say your mh procs you will get 100 str + 75-125 healing
- if the mh procs again during these 15 secs, the 15 sec timer will reset and you will receive 75-125 healing. You wont get 200 str!
- when mainhand AND offhand procs at the same time (during the 15 sec interval) then the str-buff will stack and you will get 200 str.

I have some pics when they proc at the same time. Just don't know where to upload the image.

Edited, Wed Apr 12 07:50:25 2006

Comentario de Allakhazam

if u duel wield crusader and both your MH and OH proc they will stack. If one of your weapons proc more than once it resets the effect on that weapon. I duel wield crusader and I have seen it stack alot. I haven't done a print screen to prove it but I can guaruntee that it does stack.

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Encanta de forma permanente un arma cuerpo a cuerpo para que, cuando se ataque cuerpo a cuerpo, cure a menudo 75 to 125 p. y aumente la fuerza en 100 p. durante 15 sec.

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