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Kommentar von Seldaron

Wenn ihr auf einem Era Server spielt, nehmt nicht Abysssplitter da sie dort die eigentliche Praktikabilität ruiniert haben.
Auf den Era Servern gibt der beschworene Leerwandler keinen Seelensplitter mehr weshalb ihr dadurch nur mehr wie oben steht gratis einen Leerwandler beschwören könnt.

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Kommentar von 4940

Is this quest only for alliance?

Kommentar von maurice

Horde and alliance can do it, it's a class quest for Warlocks.

I personally chose the trinket. Both the robe and the scythe are really good for the level (and the scythe looks incredibly cool), but they can be replaced pretty quickly. The trinket is unique and very useful, if only situationally. It won't have an immediate impact on your warlock, but it pays off in the long run, IMO.

Kommentar von 6460

Exactly. Later on towards end-game the trinket will still retain some marginal value as it will save you a soul shard and lots of mana. It's nice to have, but not a big deal.

It helps when grinding or with repeated boss attempts... or in the middle of a boss battle and your pet goes down, but you need more dps - or another off-tank for adds. Lots of neat little uses, but nothing major. Still through time it will hold it's value longer than either the scythe or robes.

The only reason not to take the shard is if you are levelling very quickly and just want something to replace your staff/robe for the moment.

Basically the choice is Abyssal Shard, Large brilliant shard, or large brilliant shard. (if your an enchanter).

:-)

Kommentar von Aqzt

Is the staff the only scythe looking weapon? or are there others....

Kommentar von thebrassthief

This is the best of the three rewards. The staff is nice but I got in on my first Warlock for looks. It can be easily replaced. The shard is nice but I would never take it because the cast is not instant and that is why I would need a VWer without shard or mana cost, because I would need it NOW. This is the best choice. Sure, you can replace it down the road but it will last longer.

Kommentar von 7739

My lock is only 58 and I am loving the staff, not to say that the shard isn't great. Yes, the staff can be replaced, but there are only a few blue staffs that are better.

Kommentar von 6225

Taking the scythe is the best option , because with new itemization +8hit results in more than 1% hit for level up and thus the staff is much better than the robe.

As far as the trinket is concrerned , you can easily get a +23dmg trinket (Royal Seal of Edre'Thalas or something) at 54 (through the DM-book return quest) if you have someone to open the DM north entrance for you. Also , you will sooner or later get the Eye of the Beast (16spell crit rating) which is very good too. All these do not consider TBC items which will probably be even better. Thus , the trinket is useless if you ask me.

Finally , upon completion of the quest , Impsy is going to have a go on Nibsy... :D

Kommentar von Jakobud

With the Burning Crusade only a week ago, I will say that the Trinket here is the best quest reward choice.

Yes the Robe and Staff are nice... BUT you will replace them very soon. The Trinket, while you may not use it right away, very well might be very useful someday, even at level 70!

An example, in the Demonology tree there is a spec type that is dependent on summoning your Voidwalker and then sacrificing him to get major regen back for 30 minutes. What if Blizzard decided to make this spec really awesome someday? You'll be glad you still have this trinket that has it situational uses instead of a Robe or Staff that you vendored when you got to level 59.

And the trinket might have some other interesting uses here and there, yes even at level 70.

Kommentar von jonathoncottrell

ok, i have a warlock, and im just wondering if you could use the trinket to get a new soulshard when you jumped on a flyer? summon a VW using it, fly from IF to SW, would you get a soul shard like normal or not?

Kommentar von 21848

I took the shard. At level 53 I got a robe with less stamina but nearly twice as much spell damage. I like my previous warlock quest shadow damage offhand. Offhands and 1hs open up a lot more possibilities than staves do. So I didn't really see the staff as a valid option for me. The trinket however...I can pop that on before I go farming or whatever, summon a free voidwalker, and swap back to a damage trinket. Seems to me like that will be useful forever, so thats why I made the choice I did.

Kommentar von Hashrocket

I took the staff. To this day it sits in my bank, and sometimes I parade around Stormwind carrying it. Put Firey Enchant on it and nobody will cross your path with a high-and-mighty additude: they know where they stand. :)

The Abyss Shard is useless if you're a Demonology warlock, since you'll be using your Felguard anyhow.

Kommentar von 45422

I think the robe is a better choice, I mean how hard is it to get a shard and summon a vw, if you are out of mana you can just hit life tap once and have enough to summon one. I don't see the usefulness people hype this trinket up to having, but that's just me. I have not seen a 70 lock use or equip this trinket once, but the robe/staff will help you get that last stretch of leveling done before you get geared in outlands. Just my 2 cents.

Kommentar von 47377

yeah...what about the robes...im a demonology warlock and i use felguard...but are the robes better than robes of the lich? https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=10762 i dunno....

Kommentar von 47377

alright, thanks dead...big help! ill get the robes then:P

Kommentar von 47377

And....i would pick the staff but i have staff of jordan...https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=873 with the +40 spell dmg enchant so i think im gonna stick with that:P thanks again

Kommentar von Kanuuna

Actually, the trinket is rather usefull in Arena/PvP.
Let's say you have a VW (not summoned with the trinket ) already now.
You go low on HP - Now you sacrifice your current VW.
Now, your sacrifice suddently wears off a few seconds, "Oh snap!".

Now, as you have the trinket, you'll be wise and fear your enemy.
While he's running some distance off you, you perhaps have time to Summon your VW with the trinket. Tadah.
Now, if your VW won't finish him off yet, just sacrifice, and finish him.
If he's/she's not dead yet, you seriously need some skill -.-

..And, this item just lasts forever :)

Kommentar von 53300

that trinket is bollocks for anyone of moderate common sense.

firstly, really, how hard is a soul shard to get, anyway? and secondly, why on earth would you sacrifice some of the insane +damage or +stat trinkets so you can save a few hundred mana on a voidwalker? :o

the staff, while looking cool as poop, has pretty crappy stats as well for the level. the offhand you get for a SM quest & the dagger from the boss in library is a better combo of stats than that statff.

I vote Yay for the robe.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I was 60 before this quest got out, so It's not a lvl 56-60 point of view, maybe something to keep in mind when you read my post.

Robe
Simply a no-no, it get replaced too fast with the ZG item, Felheart or Nemesis on high-end and, most important, I don't think it's worth it compared to the other two items!

Shem
Very nice, BUT! It totally depends on your build!
If you are demo specced, you gonna love and want this item, but if you are an affliction/destruction lock. You don't want it as bad.
(And about the shards.. I always have 30+ shards in my bags when I start, and NEVER below 10, thats when I start grinding, so about the shards issue... nah, lame.)

Demo specced:
0.5 sec cast for a new vw, sacrifice and voila, you have a better shield then paladins. and if you can get it for free, even better! summon a new vw to recast sacrifice as soon as the 30 seconds are over, and repeat.

Affliction specced:
I never use a vw unless you grind, I use succa/felhunter or imp specially imp when you have dark-pact, so no need for a free vw imho.

Destruction specced:
you most likely use succa maybe sometimes vw it's doubtfull, you may want the item here also.

Staff:
Not bad, you will soon replace it with a much better weapon, and you most likely will never use it for real pvp'ing, since you can't use your awsome offhand items, and your (mostly underestimated) spellstone, which just rox against all caster classes!

What did I choose?
I choose the staff, mostly because it looks cool.
you will replace all items sooner or later.
There are many better Trinkets in game, and remember equiping the trinket has a 1 minute cooldown!
So, it's not a very instant lifesaver.
you have to really plan to use it, and I rather use my +spelldmg and poly/fear breaking trinkets.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Okay about the actual quest and to all who posted above drivel about reward... go back to eq. Level 51 Warlock, its a pain to even get too instance. You can solo too the hallway that holds about 12 mobs then best advice RUN sac vw hit healthstone use pot and if your lucky you will make it to far side of hallway and then die (dont worry you will have no problem identifying where you will need to do this on the way to the instance). As soon as you enter instance in front of you are two openings one goes to the right and one up and to the left, take left stairs you will have to fight two mobs before you reach stairs (in view when you enter instance) you will have to fight two epics and a couple normal mobs on stairs, you will reach a landing with two witchdoctors and several slaves or whatever clear these mobs and you will see a hallway that leads to the first named troll. Kill him he drops feather, go up stairs to upper hallway fight your way around to next opening go down to next landing, clear landing, go down hallway kill named troll, repeat. Quest is not soloable period (unless you do at sixty at which point reward is fn useless). Quest is major fn pain in the ass requires full group with at least one member 55+ you will encounter groups of 4 elites that must be killed in upper hallway to continue. Reseting instance as described waaay above DOES NOT WORK I have 4 feathers and I did get three of them from same location but thats because diffrent mob spawned there once. Casual gamers and freelanced groups beware if you are below 55 be prepared for many wipes and unless you have big $%^& your group will likely split up before you get all the feathers you need. Enjoy, I didnt.........

Kommentar von Thottbot

Well i gave this alot of thought when i recently completed the quest and read most of the replies to really try and make an informed decision.I can tell you i settled on the robes for the sta+ and fire/spell dmg+ which gave me the best stat return between that and the staff (70g AH "Soulkeeper" blitzes the staff in pk and out).
I didnt think of the shard as even a consideration despite one reply saying it was the choice for them.

I wish i thought more coz without a doubt the VW summoner should b ur choice.The robes and staff r very much temporary items and i dont care wat any1 says the staff is not comparable to many end-game staffs which r far superior and not that hard to get.The robes are good to get u to lvl 60 while ur saving for ur epic,but will b very quickly vendored once u reach the golden number.

Now how many times have u found urself grinding along nicely with VW and u neglect the fact that ur out of shards after a few soulfires and mistimed shadowburns?.In my case not very often as i use a tracking mod,but from time 2 time ,yes i do find myself grinding with no shards.

Infact this jus happened to me which compelled me to reply.Grinding 54-57 scarlets in the north of western plaguelands,lots of adds although a good grinding spot due to good xp,drops and the multiple low armour casters.I lose my VW to an add and after taking care of the 2 mobs i realised damn no shard >.<.So np i grab my imp and look for a solo which jus isnt that easy in sum high lvl areas.After 2 deaths due to several adds i finally got a shard and continued grinding as before.Now this situation doesnt happen often,but im sure its happened to all lox and in most cases still does.Every single time it happens u will curse ur long ago vendored staff/robes and wish 2 hell u got the shard!

One last benefit of the shard is for use in BG,which is often a place i find myself low on mana + shards.Now any lox that dont use their voidy for sacrifice during flag caps is letting the team down so this shards biggest value is on the battlefield!

The Final Verdict
Dont let ur short term greed cost u a tool that will b a handy addition to any lox bag for the rest of their days!

Kommentar von Thottbot

As a demonology spec it does seem nice to be able to Sacrifice an already summoned VW, cast another while still being protected by the shield. And if you are a demon spec having master summoner that would still give you the chance to Sacrifice a second time use your 1 sec cast for a third VW. A total of 3 VW's, 3 sacrifices (1min 30 sec worth of shields guarding against roughly 6,000 points of damage) costing hardly any mana. Hardly necessary, but if you havent killed what ever you are trying to kill in that time then you deserve to die. But I will add I have used this strategy very effectively to solo elites bosses.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Guys, seriously, it's simple. Get rid of the rightous BS here, and boil your needs/wants down to the below:

Staff = If you want short term looks, this is it.

Robe = If you want short term bump in stats (about 5 - 10 levels worth) this is it.

Trinket = If you want something that you can ALWAYS use, but may not always use, this is it.

Also, don't forget that with the expansion, new warlock abilities are being added. My two cents is go with the trinket, because there just MIGHT be that spec where this trinket would be invaluable. It would be a shame to have picked up a robe or staff that will DEFINITELY be replaced by level 70 and then be in a position that you wish you had picked the trinket...

~Rashna
AP Server

Kommentar von Thottbot

The quest ends at Felwood 41,45. It's IMP named Impsy (owned by Niby The Almighty) He's standing near the craters, if you will go by a road, you will find him without problems..

Kommentar von Thottbot

Lets talk about what to do on the quest now that everyone has posted their comments about what they think is the best quest reward. Talk about beating a dead horse.

I came here to learn how to do the quest and only two people have even bothered to post questions / answers about the quest.

Please, if anyone has info on the quest, please post... such as how big the mobs are to get to the trolls, do two feathers always drop in one run, etc...

Thanks :D

Kommentar von Thottbot

The Gang of Five (54 Warlock, 57 Druid, 53 Warrior, 52 Shaman and 51 Priest) killed everything that was moving in the ST, including several bosses (dropped 3 blues and pretty much nothing else). We even killed the small snakes. Wild place. Good (not great) XP and good (not great) cash. Nothing dropped except the blues from the bosses. Fun but sort of disappointing except for the scenery, which was world class.

I got some feathers. Where are the others? We spent 2 hours in that place and there was no lunch break. Is there some mystery here that my inadequate education can't help me to figure out?

Being in the ST is sort of like being at one of those cheap resorts, where you know that everyone only went there because they couldn't afford to go to the place they wanted. I'm sorry but I kept getting that impression all throughout the place. Small towels. Paper napkins. Know what I mean?

So now what? Abandon the quest. What else is there? Go back to the Newark of instances? Sorry. I'd rather farm murlocs.

Are the rewards good? Sure. Until you hit 61 in Outland. Spend your valuable time elsewhere.

Kommentar von Thottbot

When i comp this quest BC was up and running for maybe a month or 2, and there was not any posts ( or i missed them ) pertaining to this quest and BC. I just hit 58 and went to the outland, wow. The first quest that you recieve will be easy soloing and the obvious reward choice will be the Staff of Twin Worlds +21 sta, +19 int, +13 spirit +35 magic dmg and heal and yes it has a pretty cool look, not as good as the harvester, but unless your someone who likes to stand at the fountain in SW and show your gear off then you really dont care. The second quest you get will blow away your wand most likely, but that is off the subject. The 3rd quest reward you will choose the Goldweave Tunic, 118 armor, +13 sta, +15 int, +8 spirit, +14 spell crit, and +42 magic dmg and heal. These are all yellow quests and easy soloing. Its like the first part of the outland u encounter was made for a lock; banish, track demons.

What im trying to say is that im kicking myself for not taking the trinket. No you wont be using it all the time, but i would rather have something i would use once in a blue moon or in a critical moment for as long as a play my lock, then something to disenchant 4-6 levels after i got it.

After i finished those quests in the outland i immediatly though of this quest and the hard time i had choosing. I wish someone would have made a comment on BC when i was looking for advice. Good Luck

Kommentar von Thottbot

People look when i go on thottbot i dont really care what you think is a better quest reward! i want to know where to go how hard it will be and thats about it! for this quest i have to search throught soo many posts just looking for a glimps of what is going to happen to me on this quest! I will ask my guild questions about the rewards if i want to you guys dont matter to me they do. now will someone pleese post stuff relevent about this quest!

thank you

Kommentar von Thottbot

Damn. Just let people choose their stuff and be on their way.

Kommentar von Thottbot

The posts previously where they announced that this quest was soloable are on something nasty.
Im a 52 aff/des lock and i had a 70 priest with me, i died half a dozen times and priest died once. You are fighting 52 elites x3 plus adds in places, there is no way around or to sneak past.
I know someone will say noob lock however i do have two other 70's and the priest and I have done many high level instance runs.
So solo at your peril.

PS all the trolls on the balconys drop one feather each, just follow the corridor around and you will get each one. They are actually the easiest ones to kill in the instance.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i'd rather take this robe, than the reward from this quest. sure, you can get the robe from the quest before you'll be able to get the robe from immol'thar, but the robe is more easily replaced and i don't find the trinket to be useful enough. and, the soul harvester probably vendors for the highest amount, so when you replace any of those items, that's what matters.

being affliction/demonology, i'd take the soul harvester over the rod of the ogre magi. sure, there are lots of other staves out there better than the soul harvester and rod of the ogre magi, but those are much harder to obtain.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

How to get this done and wich lvl?

U get quest on lvl 50 in Felwood of a guy with imp, there is some elemental mobs and 50+(elites) infernals at him...
U gotta do ST(it´s in swamp of sorrow) and kill the troll "bosses", u get 1 feather from each boss and it´s in different colors, kill 'em all and return quest and then ur done.

Enjoy ^^
/Firre, Lightings blade

Kommentar von Allakhazam

does anyone realize how much better Zum'rah's Vexing Cane is then the soul harvester? Lets compare...

Zum'rah's Vexing Cane
+10 stam
+10 int
+21 spell damage and healing

Soul Harvester
+16 stam
+8 spell hit rating
+21 shadow damage
+looking completely kick ass

I was thinking of getting the Soul Harvester just because of the look, but there is almost no use of it. Who really can use +8 spell hit rating? I've never had the problem of resisting monsters, the real buff on it should be +crit rating. The spell damage from the Vexing Cane is golden because half of the spells I use are fire spells(being a destro lock). The int from the Vexing Cane is nice because if I choose the Robes of Servitude from this quest then I'll be losing 7 int(from the enchanted gold bloodrobe). The Abyss shard seems completely useless because if you're tanking something you should be ready for it. I've never come to a situation where I needed VW, and the only way you should die as a lock is if you don't know how to play it.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

So... got really annoyed with the fact that people didn't discuss the quest... only the rewards... so here is my small attempt at an guide to the quest...
I'm a lvl 70 'lock (and only went there to help a guildie out), so don't know if others will experience it this way... but I believe that anyone above 55 can relativel easily solo through the "Temple of Atal'Hakkar" down to the instance entrance. However, once you get inside (like any other instance) you will need a group.

The entrance to the temple (Temple of Atal'Hakkar) is at 55,78 in "Swamp of Sorrows" (north-east of Stonard) and you have to go through the upper levels of the temple to get to the instance-entrance. Getting there is quite basic... you need to get from the south-west corner to the north-east. When you get to the great hall in the north-eastern area the entrance is on the second level of the 3-story hall.

Basically, the quest is made up of 2 parts:
1) You need to clear the upper level to kill 6 trolls (mini-bosses) which keep a boss on the level below shackled.
2) Clear the entire level below for monsters and then kill the bosses there...

First of all to get to where the trolls are take the stairs up which are in front of you when you enter and to the left (there are 4 exits from this area and basically it is the second from the left).
Once you get up there you will be in a circular corridor. The trolls are in rooms scattered around this corridor.
This is basically a kill everything task and quite easy to do.
Essentially, this is all you need to do to get the "trolls of a feather" quest done (the feathers are dropped by the before-mentioned trolls), however since you will most likely be in a group wanting to do the entire upper part of the instance read a bit further...

Go back to the room where you entered the instance and go up the stairs to your right (first stairs to the left from the entrance to the instance). Once you get up the stairs you are going to encounter somewhat large groups of dragonkin which are linked - if you attack one dragon in a group they will all attack you. Before you go to any bosses make sure that all of these groups (and any other mobs) are killed! - otherwise they will charge you when you attempt to kill the dragon-boss (think Scarlet Monastery).
From there it is basically: Kill everything on the level and then kill the bosses... like I said, though, I was a lvl 70 lock when I first entered so I don't know the first thing about tactics on the bosses... this is only meant as a guide for how to get to where you need to be.. :-)

For a graphical overview of the temple:
http://www.worldofwar.net/cartography/instances/atalhakkar.php

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Is there a cool down for the trinket? or is it consistant use? Warlock being a pet class, i spec'd in Demonology. (if i wanted to blast stuff, id play a mage!) This would be dang useful. :P

^i^

Kommentar von Allakhazam

what lvl can this be attained? where and at what lvl can the infernal quest be attained?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

took the robes as a 53 demon lock mainly for the fact that my other ones were so outdated it was embarrassing. i know they'll get replaced later on but the staff isn't that great and the trinket... well as a demon lock i don't have much use for it. that's my 2c.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Disagree about staff.
Rod of Ogre Magi is slightly better IMHO. And you will never find such other thing like Abyss Shard. I will take the shard :) Its nice for demonology build for VW sacrifice buff.
OMG I love demonology :) Respecced 3 days ago.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Is the lowest level you can take this quest at 52? Or is that the quest level?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ok guys well from my point of view even as a demo spec lock the trinket is the way to go, im going to re spec lose my felguard and take that point and get siphon life at 70, but the VW trinket is the way to go if your ever farming, or hunting someplace grey to you, or your friends want you to run someplace, chances are if your cocky like me and train yourself alot you will need shards for healthstones not pets...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

is that only for Horde? or is it posible for a human warlock to do the quest as well?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

It was posted on warlock boards that the shard uses your talent spec for it's cast time and doesn't use up Fel Dom. You can pop Fel Dom, use trinket to summon VW, sac him and instantly summon another pet before the timer runs out on Fel Dom. When a warlock reported it as a bug someone got ahold of him in game and said it was working as intended (or so he claimed on the boards). Might get nerfed but then again might not. Either way, as it stands you can have three VW shields if you start with a VW and are demon speced. You can always get another staff or robe but there is no other item like this in game even if they do nerf the Fel Dom thing.

I'll edit this post and tell you if this is true first hand once I get the shard for my lock.

Edit: Just got the shard and it DOES use up Fel Domination. If you have the Fel Dom talent it casts instantly just like normal but my above post is invalid no matter what someone tells you or the other warlock boards say as of today (11/21/05).

Edited, Mon Nov 21 15:26:36 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

is there directions once u get inside to get to this room where they are at? i get lost. :P

Kommentar von Allakhazam

all these posts and not one person says where to go for this quest...where is the sunken temple?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

still no mention of where to go in the sunken temple to get the feathers as asked earlier

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I can see why a Demonology Spec Warlock might think the trinket is useless, but I would say for those going heavy in Destruction/Affliction it's going to have a lot of long-term uses - even more for Affliction since we farm Soul Shards by Drain Soul (needs concentration on one target) instead of Shadowburn (can smack something that's about to die with it and turn your attention elsewhere).

As an Affliction Spec Lock, my Voidwalker is out 98% of the time to tank mobs while my dots eat them away. While I may or may not use him for end-game stuff, he's my levelling buddy, and there are times where being able to resummon him for no mana would be very nice.

With the new level 70 cap of The Burning Crusade, I'll eventually be able to as far as I want into Affliction, and still be able to get all of Master Summoner (not to mention giving my STA/Health a nice boost), but until then the Trinket is definitely better overall. If you've ever seen Boondock Saints, the Trinket is like Rope. :P

I'd replace that Robe with the Robes of the Lich if I could get it to drop, or Chan's Imperial Robes if I were so lucky. The Staff looks sexy as hell, and was originally what I planned on getting, however, I'm not primarily concerned about my DPS right now. Between Curse of Agony, Corruption, Immolation, Siphon Life, Unstable Affliction, and Drain Life/Soul ... things drop fast enough. Not to mention my current staff only has four(4) less STA and twelve(12) more INT.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I finished this quest at lvl 50 and I must say I love my staff best looking staff TBH :p.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

For demonology locks with the VW sac health regen buff, the trinket is amazing in raiding. The other two really don't have any long lasting purpose, but I can see using this for a loooonggg time, at least until I respec. Covers 30 min of health regen every time it expires for a whole raid.

Edited, Mon Feb 27 22:05:28 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The robe is not that good and will be upgraded pretty quickly.

The trinket is ok, but it doesn't offer anything but a little laziness, and you must realize it has a 30 MINUTE COOLDOWN.

The scythe will likely last you until endgame, so go ahead and get that. You will not be disappointed.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I completed the quest just now... I went for the robe... & even tho the Grand Marshal robes are soooo easy to get at lvl60 I still need to get through 8 full lvl's (1% from lvl52 atm)...

The staff... I'm using dagger & offhand from SM... practicaly the same as the staff.

The trinket... lawl. I'm an afflication warlock for lvling... Soul Siphon combined with siphon life & unstable affliction > felguard for lvling imo. Especialy since Felguard doesn't have all his ability's at lvl50 yet...
But even then the trinket is just plain stupid to get. If you loose your voidwalker your doing something really wrong & the chances that your new voidwalker will actualy save your ass is pretty small + the CD is liek 30minutes WTF.

Robes... I was still using lvl30 warlock quest robes... +23spelldmg basicly... +5stm & -7intel... So I consider it a decent upgrade.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

For the love of god people....If you have the expansion or plan on getting it at any time, take the TRINKET. I wish I had, but no, I got the staff for "looks" and it was replaced at like 58 or 59 when I went to Outland. Now at 70, I wish I had the trinket.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The Trinket - even if there are limited times you will use it - is the only piece you will not find an upgrade for.

I've seen Locks us it when shard farming before a big raid. I've also seen locks use it when they are doing AoE and know heals might be slow coming (such as on the Bat boss in ZG) - Summon blue, AoE till near dead, sac blue for shield, summon next blue using trinket to save mana. It's saved a few locks from death - it's worth having as an option.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Go with the staff.

You get better then all three quite soon. Especially with all that IMBA outland crap.

Reason to take the staff: Upgrades come and go, but Looks are Forever.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

k... the robes are definatly the way to go(here are my reasons):
1. locks are all about fire and shadow damage
2. they r totally hot
3. quite good armour(and if u get an armour kit(like i did :))i made it have 103 armour) 103 YES U HEARD ME 103 armour..
4. last but not least demon spec'd locks hve no increased damage once so ever!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Don't underestimate +%hit. And cool looks. ;-)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

It really depends on spec.

As a warlock 0/16/35 I'd prefer the robes.

I'm already using the Invocers Focal blade and a spell stone offhand. To me the soulharvester wouldn't really help with my build however the robes would a nice all round thing. The shard is decent, but I don't EVER use voidwalker anyway.

However, for a demonology build warlock, the shard would obviously be nice.

The soulharvester is more affliction/demonology where you use your dots much more and crits isn't much of a big deal.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This is a rather controversial subject, and there is a thread for it, but here goes my thoughts on the rewards.

The robes certainly don't seem worth the effort. You almost certainly can and will find better drops through normal looting and/or crafting. They are not bad, mind you, just not altogether great.

Next we come to the Soul Harvester. Yes, it looks awesome. Yes, it has a mighty nice package. But if you ever plan to go into any end-game instance, even just the 5-man ones (Strath, Scholo, DM), then you will likely one day be junking this thing, or it'll be collecting dust in the bank. There are better staves, and you can find them with relative ease with a few end-game instance runs. You might even get yourself a dagger or sword and an off-hand that, together, beat Soul Harvester. So if you get this thing, just do so with the understanding that you will be outclassing it in the near future. Unless, for some reason, you plan to stop going into instances after ST.

Last is the Abyss Shard. I heard all the bad press about it, about how voidwalker was a useless pet to use. Then I ran an AQ20 run where I used Demonic Sacrifice to turn my voidwalker into an extremely good health regen. It allowed me to Life Tap constantly, without the healers having to even bat an eye in my direction. I've since used that trick in a number of situations where me and my raid were constantly in battle, with little or no time to regen mana.

And the best part is, because the DS-voidwalker buff lasts 30 minutes, the shard is basically a free rebuff for that. It leaves me shards for Shadowburn, Soul Fire, summoning, and fast-casting other pets when needed.

So people can tell me they think the Abyss Shard is useless all they want. They can bend logic in any direction to back them up. I've put it to work, and I say it is a mighty fine reward for a rather simple quest.

Again, this is merely my experience with the thing. Do your research, plan ahead, and choose wisely.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I got the trinket; I thought the robes and staff were mediocre at best.

I cast a .5 second voidwalker for no mana and no shard, I cast demonic sacrifice (which lasts for 30 minutes), and 30 minutes later, I repeat. It's great.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

why does everyone choose the staff? if trinket is instant cast, it'd be one of the best pvp items a warlock can get, instant cast void, sac, hit disc to kill cast time, another void for .5 cast time, sac, would be sooooooooooooo much harder to die. but if it has cast time, then its completly useless.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

You should read this thread before choosing a reward.

Hexenmeister

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Aye, Alliance can get the quest as well - get it from Impsy north of bloodvenom falls in Felwood.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Trust me, go with the staff. The series of quests to get this is a cakewalk for a grouped warlock. IMHO the only things better for a Shadowbolt oriented warlock are Molten core drops, ZG drops, or earned from exaulted from Arathi basin(not easy things to do)

Edited, Mon Oct 17 02:47:23 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

These are great items for their level. I took the robes, planning on getting a good staff to go with it

There are two not too common drops in ST and ZF.
In ST there's Spire of Hakkar, (16 stam, 16 spirit, 18 spell dmg) and in ZF there's Zum'Rahs vexing cane (10 stam, 10 int, 21 spell dmg)

I lost both to a priest when they each dropped, and eventually decided to get the one in ZF, luckily it only took one more run, and the only other staff user was a 60 shaman, so I got it no contest.

I'm affliction on a pvp server (aiming for SM/DS by 60) so the shard isn't useful to me, but I can see it would be good for a demo lock

This is a 52 quest, so you can get it at 50. With 10 long levels to go, you're stupid to cry "endgame" when choosing the reward

Kommentar von Allakhazam

the robe is ok but i will stick to my robes of the lich. the shard is now completely useless with the felguard comeing out in TBC which is a 55+ warrior at a warlocks command doing alot more damage , health , better tanking moves , amor just all around better void and unlike the infurnal or doomguard that u have to keep enslaveing its stays just like a void or imp so it just takes 1 shard to get him and keep him so the instant cast void is useless.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

acciendentally posted :)

Edited, Dec 14th 2006 8:51pm by hadiran

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I will take the Scythe just for the look!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

All of these posts amuse me so. Even/especially the people who say +dmg is all that matters. This statement is true, which is why most of my gear is greens from the AH that say "of shadow wrath". Truth is, as most people have said, the staff and robes will be replaced, and quickly. The tinket may not be super-hawt, but it's the only thing remotely useful after a few levels. Every once in a bit I dot up seven mobs and end up losing/sacrificing my VW. While I'm drinking to recover (because of course I live and everything dies Warlocks *are* OP after all), why not equip the trinket and save myself a little mana and a shard?

In summary, the staff and robes are replaced totally, while the trinket has some use, however minor. I guess "for looks" for the staff is about as justifiable, but I don't like gear like that taking up bag space.

And there's my two bits.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Eindrachen is right, whilst the robes/staff are ok/good for level 50, you will probably replace them at level 60. I chose the staff, and I regret it. I DE'd it a long time ago. You will use the shard forever, from ST to NAX.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

With the expansion will come 10 more levels and hopefully a lot of better gear. You will still want to keep the trinket after you sell or d/e the scythe or robe.
--That the opinion i've come up with after reading all this. I'm not a demonology lock, but maybe i'll respecc sometime and play with it. Here's to choice!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i dont thinked to wht to get trinket was the best couz u can find better robe or staff but u cant find a trinket like that

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I'll be going for the robes as I just picked up Glowing Brightwood Staff for 90g and slapped a +30 Int. enchant on it for only 40g more, plus being demonology spec the trinket isn't that great.

/sigh, almost sad, staff is kickass looking, but the robes will suit me better for shorterm.

Kommentar von bound4earth

The Abyss Shard works great well into BC, while the other two rewards are very easily replaced. They aren't even close to pre-raid BiS, so I am not sure why people make such foolish arguments. If you care more about roleplaying later on, fine, but to act like it is better because of stats is nonsense. The trinket is one of the best quality of life items to exist. Sure you can fight a mob right after you login without him and tank the mob while casting drain soul and hope spell pushback doesn't end the spell while a DoT ticks and kills the mob, sure it is rare, but it does happen. but why do that when you can get a Void Walker for free.

Kommentar von memeking

is this quest in classic? none of the trainers would offer the imps request breadcrumb

Kommentar von RobloxMorty

So we go staff right? The chance to hit is too good not to get. The shard just seems like a waste, and the robes are decent. Why have the shard when you have the skull and a carrot on a stick?

Kommentar von 1818331

I don't know why people say that the trinket is not useful. I am constantly stuck without shards on hostile areas where i need the void to tank in order to get shards. It really helps.

Kommentar von Kittyx

Class	Starting Quest	Rewards To Choose From at the End of the Questline
Druid	Eine bessere Zutat	Ergrauter Pelz, Umarmung des Waldes or Mondschattenstock.
Hunter	Der grüne Drache	Jagdspeer, Auge eines Teufelssauriers or Zahn eines Teufelssauriers.
Mage	Vernichtet Morphaz	Gletscherstachel, Arkankristallanhänger or Feuerrubin.
Paladin	Erschaffung des Steins der Macht	Lichtgeschmiedete Klinge, Geweihte Kugel or Siegelring der Ritterlichkeit.
Priest	Morphaz' Blut	Gesegnete Gebetsperlen, Stab des Leidens or Reif der Hoffnung.
Rogue	Der azurblaue Schlüssel	Ebenholzmaske, Leisetreter or Nachtsaugertuch.
Shaman	Die Macht des Voodoos	Azuritfäuste, Wildstab or Entzückter Wassergeist.
Warlock	Federn von Trollen	Seelenernter, Abysssplitter or Roben der Knechtschaft
Warrior	Voodoofedern	Diamantenfläschchen, Visier des Zorns or Klingenstahlschultern.

Kommentar von Sumsarg

Easily solo'd at level 57, with 33-15-0 Dark Pact build. The trick is that the trolls spawn randomly and you can get to one of them without killing a single mob and to another one where you only need to kill one.

When you enter the instance you can get to the minibosses by either going to the mid-right or mid-left. Before going either way, you can summon an Eye of Kilrogg, go up the stairs until you hit the first chamber and then, instead of going up further you go into the side passage. There you can check which bosses are available and wether they drop the quest item you need or not.

Once you've determined that your boss is there, you can start going towards the stairs.
On the left side, fear the caster and nuke down the melee mob (watch out it hits hard) then you can either finish off the other mob or leave the instance and go back in, you can just walk past the remaining mob.
On the right side, wait for the mob to walk a bit away from the stairs and then you can just walk past them along the wall (this might not work for you if you're a lower level).

On the stairs, watch out for the patrol, just wait for them to walk down past you then go up into the chamber.

Once in the chamber, you want to get as close as you can to the boss corridor without pulling the mobs. Then you want to summon your Eye of Kilrogg, wait for it to get aggro and then run up the stairs as far as you can. Once you've reached the top, wait for the mobs to catch up. When your Eye dies, immediately start running towards the boss, you'll be able to run past the mobs while they reset without aggroing them. It may take a few tries, if you fail you can also use a Soulstone for this part.

Most of the bosses do almost nothing, just dot and drain them down, though watch out for the skeleton totem one, there I just used my wand to kill the totems while ignoring the skeletons and just burning down the boss as fast as possible.

Good luck!

Kommentar von Seldaron

Reminder if you are on Classic Era do not go for Abysssplitter as on Era Servers this is useless.
They changed so that on Phase 6 Realms you do not get a Soul Shard for the Void Walker so all the thought about free soul shards with it is for naught.
It may have worked if we would go to outland but on Era there is no outland so for all of you Era Warlocks, take the Scythe.

Kommentar von AskeHK

The trinket has limited use, but it has some potential on Hardcore servers.
It unfortunately suffers from spell pushback, but in a tight spot it can be worth it.

You're in Sunken Temple, fighting Eranikus' Schemen, tank gets banished and boss goes on you?
Teufelsbeherrschung -> Leerwandler beschwören-> Opferung -> Abysssplitter
At level 56 with sacrifice at max rank & Verbesserter Leerwandler 3/3 you just got a 2.5k barrier twice.
The important part here is that you can do this for close to no mana cost.
Or... you know, you could get an offtank for your group, but this is way cooler.

Same combo can be used when questing or grinding in the world and you pull too much.

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Federn von Trollen

Bringt 6 Voodoofedern von den Trollen aus dem versunkenen Tempel.

	Gelbe Voodoofeder (2)
	Blaue Voodoofeder (2)
	Grüne Voodoofeder (2)

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Mein Begleiter ist fast fertig. Jetzt brauche ich nur noch etwas als Füllmaterial.

Nur die Voodoofedern von den Trollen aus dem versunkenen Tempel sind dafür geeignet. Sie heißen Schlitzer, Mijan, Zolo, Hukku, Zul'lor und Loro. Tötet sie. Tötet sie alle.

Dies ist keine gewöhnliche Aufgabe <Name>, also werde ich Eure Bemühungen belohnen, indem ich Euch etwas von Niby gebe -- er wird es sowieso nicht mehr brauchen.

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Auf Euch wartet eine dieser Belohnungen:

	Seelenernter		Abysssplitter
	Roben der Knechtschaft

Der folgende Zauber wird auf euch gewirkt:

	Erfahrungsschub

Ihr bekommt außerdem:

	Roben der Knechtschaft		Abysssplitter
	Seelenernter

Belohnungen

Bei Abschluss dieser Quest erhaltet Ihr:

Wenn du Folgendes im Spiel eingibst, kannst du überprüfen, ob du das schon abgeschlossen hast:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(8422))

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