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Kommentar von 2133

The manor is directly east of Tarren Mill in Hillsbrad. It is across the river and through a tunnel. Then you go to the top of the building and talk to the guy.

Kommentar von 7901

Ravenholt Manor is located east-southeast of Tarren Mill.
You will have to go up the side of the mountain till you find a pathway leading further up the mountain.
At the top of the pathway you will find a cave.
You must go through the cave, however if you are a rogue seeking their ravenholt quest, as you pass by remeber to watch out for the chest within the cave as it is a part of that quest.
Once you are through the cave you will enter a grove with a path, follow the path and you will arrive at Ravenholt Manor.

As a note the Ravenholt quests are not completed, so keep that in mind should you attempt them you will eventunally hit a quest with no way to finish it. Just a friendly warning.

Kommentar von GokuuSon

As the previous poster has mentioned, the Ravenholdt Manor has a last quest that is currently unfinishable, but it is still possible to get some rep with them and once you get enough, you can go to Ravenholdt to train your skills for a discounted price, since this place is the rogue haven.

Kommentar von 5075

0.) Ask the trainer in Orgrimmar for the letter - right click and start the quest
1.) Must be level 24 - with Detect Traps
2.) Head to the Zepplin out side of Orgrimmar
3.) Take the Zellplin to UC (Undertcity)
4.) Take the Bat to Tarren Mill. If you don'thave the FP (Flight Path) then head to Silverpine Forest - head south and enter Hillsbrad Foothills. Follow the road and use your mini map. Pass the Alliance town (Southshore). Once your close enough to TM it will have a arrow pointing to the location of it - follow the arrow untill you reach TM. Get the FP.
5.) Start from the Bat Handler and head east to the river. Once at the river you'll see land on the other side.
6.) Cross the river and get to the other side.
<Be careful for there are aggresive bears and spiers.>
7.) Once on the other side you should see a HUGE tree with a mountain behind it and two paths to go around it (Take whichever path you wish for it is not important). Though I perfer the right path around the mountain.
8.) Once your behind the mountain look up for there you'll see a zig-zag pathway up the mountain.
9.) Head up the mountain and follow the dirt road.
10.) Once your at the top you'll see level 50 Neutral Guards and behind them you see the tunnel!
11.) No need to stealth past the Guards for they wont attack you at all.
12.) Turn on 'Detect Traps'
13.) Enter the tunnel.
14.) Upon entering the tunnel you should see the chest! Hovering above the chest you should see a blue rectangle.
15.) Head towards the chest, but DO NOT OPEN IT! Once your close enough the quest update should have activated.
16.) Keep going through the tunnel and you end at the Manor.
17.) Head to the building and talk with Fahrad - BOOM quest completed!!

I posted this step by step while doing it with my level 24 Undead Rogue and boy was it a piece of cake! As said already you get to do the pick-pocketing to gain reputation with Ravenholdt, but thats just simple :).

Hope this helped and good luck and have fun!(##RESPBREAK##)908##DELIM##Uchur##DELIM##Originally posted by Zeisun. Please include credits. Thanks.

Kommentar von tokelazor

In case anyone is still having trouble locating the road to Ravenholdt its 75,24. Directly behind the plateau thats north of Durnholde Keep.

Kommentar von blindrob

i have the seal and im at fahrad and he wont take it, i was at the chest and the blue thing came up, but he wont accept the quest

Kommentar von 43040

The easiest way to search for the path that leads to the Manor is to find location 76,25. It is in the Hillsbrad Foothills area. NOT the Durnholde Keep area. I am including a picture of the path from the bottom.

*Also. There is some good items for sale within the Manor that cost you just silver (~24s), but go for 2+ gold at the AH.

*And, if you are alliance, and do not have the flight path yet. Jump down the mountain side to Chillwind Point. It's north across the river. It saves you time later on.

Sorry. I don't know the horde routes.

Side note: If you collect the emblems from the NPC's in the Keep BEFORE going up. It saves you some time too.

Kommentar von 43712

how much rep do you need to get cheaper rouge skills there?

Kommentar von 44517

You only need 10 Syndicate Emblems to get to Friendly status with the Syndicate. They don't want anymore after that.

Yes Human

Kommentar von 53692

You need 12 Syndicate Emblems. I just did the quest.

Kommentar von 53692

How are you able to do the other quests after the first one? I can't seem to find anyone to talk to.

Kommentar von Thottbot

You get the Rite of Cunning for just detecting the trap on the box in the tunnel. Try to open it if you want to fight the lvl 33 Elite that spawns by trying =)

Once you turn this in to the Master Rogue inside Ravenholdt, he tells you to talk to the guards. The guards want you to pick pocket Sydicate Emblems from the nearby keep. Each one of these you turn in to them raises your faction with Ravenholdt by a bit, until you are friendly status. I think it takes around 30. I do not know what this does, but I assume it will allow the NPCs in Ravenholdt to eventually give you quests. I did this quest at lvl 31, and no other quests in ravenholdt were opened at that time.

Kommentar von Thottbot

This quest is not bugged (just weird)

I originally went and opened the chest (whoops) and was told by another rogue that I had to now abandon the quest, destroy the seal, restart the quest, then do the disarm thing.

I doubt the abandon thing was necessary (still did it) but the process did work.

The purpose of the quest appears to be the initialization of the Syndicate Emblems quest-thingy (not officially a quest, kinda weird). In this you pickpocket Syndicate members to get Syndicate Emblems off them, then bring these emblems to the Ravenholdt people to complete the quest (which you cannot accept, it's just a yellow exclamation until you bring them an Emblem) however you can do these Emblem quests over and over again. (Ever guard 'offers' it, and once completed they still do)

The purpose of the Emblem Quest appears to be to simply raise your relationship with the Ravenholdt...

So, this quest is simply to unlock the emblem quest, which is simply to raise your faction.

Thing is, Fahrad is a rogue trainer, so in theory you could do a ton of the Emblem quests, get a bunch of relationship, and get trains for cheap...

hopefully, there is some sort of cap on the emblem quest, which leads into some sort of grander rogue quest against the syndicate.... we can only dream (or do more research, as I am about to)

Kommentar von Thottbot

My advice... Don't bother with this yet. There is no compelling reward that makes the travel worth your time. The lands you have to go through have higher level beasts (30-35), and your getting awfully close to Horde country.

The official response I got from a GM regarding this is that the content is incomplete. If you have a few hours to spare and must give it a try here's the skinny.

1) You can do this at level 24, you only need to cast detect traps. Find the chest, and cast detect traps then you will see a flag that says don't open this and you�re done. You do not need to disarm traps as is inferred from other comments.
2) The next quest is to go and pickpocket a bunch of level 20-22ish thief�s and get badges. For each badge you get your reputation in the syndicate, goes up. You need about 30 to become friendly and you�re done.

FIRST NOTE: If you run into a series of pockets that say no loot, someone�s been there before you. Start killing them. Kill on one side of the castle, move to the other side and come back to pick pocket. If you bring a friend, have them kill while you sneak. The goal is to get them to re-spawn so they have loot again.

SECOND NOTE: The badges quest will never appear in your quest log. This may seem borked but it�s not. AFAICT This quest is a Required Item to Initiate quest requiring you to get the badges first before taking the quest and as soon as you take the quest you will complete it for a faction point. This makes it a little weird to turn in too in that you have to talk to a guard 30 times for each badge and press complete quest 30 times.

3) When you reach friendly status the guards will refer you to talk to the Wolfe. This is a guy in a suit inside the mansion. You can�t talk to him. This is where the content is incomplete as of 1/11/05.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ok, I have completed this quest, now I can't talk to the "wolfe". According to blizzard this quest line is not broken. Also if you check this site for "Mark of the syndicate" which I have been collecting and gentleman states that it continues the Ravenholdt quest. I hope someone can find a way to further this quest. I am working hard at it. Check this link for blizzards response.

http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowGM/?id=agm01688p

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ravenholdt is located in the Hillsbrad Hill, in the north part of the map. It is nort of Dunholde. Do not get dicouraged if you can't find the path immediately, as it's somewhat obscured by trees ad hills. When you do find it, you will come to a cave with a single chest in it.

DO NOT OPEN THE CHEST

Use your detect traps spell before open the chest, and a blue rectangle will appear over the chest. All that is needed to complete this part is to have that blue diamond visible and walk really close to the chest. This will allow you to do the second section of this quest line. Follow the path through the cave to the second floor of the Ravenholdt manor.

The second part involves pickpocketing Syndicate Emblems from syndicate members. The best place to do this is the ruined watch tower by the road to Dunholde. You will not get any emblems from killing syndicate members, only for pickpocketing them. When you have about 30 of these (fewer if you're human I beleive) you raise for faction rating with this area. Note this is not a lggable quest, as each of the guards in the ravenholdt area will not let you accept the quest until you have brought them some emblems. You may do this part as many times as you like to raise your faction rating.

I have no idea what this accomplishes, except for finishing your Rogue class quest. Which is always good, neh?

Kommentar von Thottbot

I emailed blizzard about their comment that the quest is not broken, saying:
"This is rediculas as the quest is obviously broken. After the right of cunning has been gained, and all the emblems collected, and they are now friendly, there is no quest to take, despite being told to talk to wolfe. It would be great if you could respond and clear this up for me."
Their reply was:
"I apologize for the confusion."..."The part you are currently on is indeed broken and will be repaired as soon as possible."
So hopefully they will actually fix it....

Kommentar von Thottbot

Got this Quest at 24
went to Hillsbrad Foothills
Found the chest
Used detect traps
Walked around the chest til the Quest updated
Spoke with Fahrad
Spoke with the Gaurds
Pick-pocketed 30 emblems off of the Syndicate mobs in Durnholde Keep
Went back to the gaurds
Turned the emblems in (one at a time as opposed to all at once.. very annoying)(and the gaurds only accepted 27 of the emblems before the "!" stopped appearing above their heads...
I then spoke with everyone in the manor, their reactions to my presence had changed from when I first went in. (instead of calling me "worm" they now use my Name.)
The Gaurd to Fahrad's Right says to speak with "Winstone Wolf" (Who is downstairs at the table)
Winstone does not have any interaction.....

Contacting GM for update on Content, will post here if and when I hear anything.

Fugazi, Human Rogue Feathermoon Server.
Friday April 15th 2005

Kommentar von Thottbot

The loc of the path that leads up to the tunnel is 75,23

Kommentar von Thottbot

I haven't saw one post here about the actual location of this path so I will post it. the path is located in hillsbrad foothills
the coordinates are 75,23 - that is the beginning of the path, then go up and after two turns you will enter a small cave, inside there is a chest, DO NOT OPEN IT, use detect traps instead, after using it you will see a blue diamond above the chest, go closer and the quest will be completed ( at least that is how I completed it)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Okay, since noone has given exact step by step directions on getting this quest and finishing it, then I will.

0.) Ask the trainer in Orgrimmar for the letter - right click and start the quest
1.) Must be level 24 - with Detect Traps
2.) Head to the Zepplin out side of Orgrimmar
3.) Take the Zellplin to UC (Undertcity)
4.) Take the Bat to Tarren Mill. If you don'thave the FP (Flight Path) then head to Silverpine Forest - head south and enter Hillsbrad Foothills. Follow the road and use your mini map. Pass the Alliance town (Southshore). Once your close enough to TM it will have a arrow pointing to the location of it - follow the arrow untill you reach TM. Get the FP.
5.) Start from the Bat Handler and head east to the river. Once at the river you'll see land on the other side.
6.) Cross the river and get to the other side.
<Be careful for there are aggresive bears and spiers.>
7.) Once on the other side you should see a HUGE tree with a mountain behind it and two paths to go around it (Take whichever path you wish for it is not important). Though I perfer the right path around the mountain.
8.) Once your behind the mountain look up for there you'll see a zig-zag pathway up the mountain.
9.) Head up the mountain and follow the dirt road.
10.) Once your at the top you'll see level 50 Neutral Guards and behind them you see the tunnel!
11.) No need to stealth past the Guards for they wont attack you at all.
12.) Turn on 'Detect Traps'
13.) Enter the tunnel.
14.) Upon entering the tunnel you should see the chest! Hovering above the chest you should see a blue rectangle.
15.) Head towards the chest, but DO NOT OPEN IT! Once your close enough the quest update should have activated.
16.) Keep going through the tunnel and you end at the Manor.
17.) Head to the building and talk with Fahrad - BOOM quest completed!

I posted this step by step while doing it with my level 24 Undead Rogue and boy was it a piece of cake! As said already you get to do the pick-pocketing to gain reputation with Ravenholdt, but thats just simple :).

Hope this helped and good luck and have fun!

<Skulli> Undead Rogue
Proudmoore Realm

Kommentar von Thottbot

The Path starts at 75,23. It's a little brown dirt path the zig-zags into the mountain.

For those not blessed with map co-ords, on the map, look at the field image of Tarren Mill, draw a line from the top edge of the field East and join it with a line north from the 'H' of Durnholde Keep. Where those two lines intersect is where the path starts.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Okay.

So you get the Syndicate Symbols, you need 30 of them to hit friendly status, go back to the guards, they tell you to speak with Wolf, wolf is non-commutal no matter what status you are at. You also don't need to go through the process of opening the DO NOT OPEN, chest and fighting the elite, Wolf will still not speak to you.
As for rumors that there is another Wolf in SW? This is true however, he is not a tie to this quest. As of March 05 2006, Blizzard GM support states that they are "Currently Working on this Issue."
I expect the rest of the rogue quest to be finished as of the expansion in early summer...anything sooner would surprise me.

Don't waste your time with this until the update page at www.worldofwarcraft.com shows the Ravenholdt Manor quest as fixed. Too bad there are no other rogue quests, I like being sneaky. *sneak* *sneak*

Kommentar von Thottbot

This is the deal, I just got off the whisper with a GM and he tells me that Ravenholdt is a unfinished quest that the developers left unfinished. If we want anything done about this then we need to post the issue on the suggestions forums on the World of Warcraft website. Apparently developers take a lot of ideas from there. Just a thought, and thought you would like to know.

Kommentar von Thottbot

the excact location to the path to Ravenholdt is:

74,23.

PS stop when you have about 16 marks, i threw away 27 haha

Kommentar von Thottbot

I just completed a few days ago and nothing after emblems. Anybody done the lvl 50 quest yet and if so what do you get? As others posted a human rogue needs about 15 emblems and you do get some nice locked junkboxes that contain decent stuff and you can practice your lockpick skill on some. For those without cosmos (or if you havent reinstalled becasue of all the patches)... the path is not hard to find go north from durnholde (dont go inside) til you hit the mountains turn left while hugging the mountains and look for a dirt zigzag path on your minimap. No need to stealth past the guards and yes detect traps is passive so if you get near the chest you will complete the rite of cunning.

Villein
32 Human Rogue
Malfurion Realm

Kommentar von Allakhazam

North of Durnholde Keep. Middle of the mountains there.

EDIT: Once you see the first guards (It's a winding path), you will enter a cave, and inside it will be a chest. You have to open it and fight (and I assume win) with a Lv33 elite who hits me (Lv38 rogue, 908 defense) for 200 with bare fists. My suggestion is pop evasion and have a potion ready and start whaling away on him until he gives up. Then continue on to the manor, go upstairs and talk to Fahrad on the balcony. He will tell you to go talk to guards outside to a quest. As of now, you cannot 'accept' that quest. Seems that you have to get an emblem and come back to talk to a guard. After 5 emblems my reputation has gone up considerably, but no new quests. I'm guessing Friendly reputation will open more quests. Back to pick-pocketting -.-

Edited, Wed Dec 22 00:53:59 2004

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I just tried it and I received nothing after using trap detect other than a beat down after getting tired of doing and finally opening the trap to see if that was the problem. lol

Edit: I found that it was bugged because of my interface. Once I disabled everything I was able to complete this part. So if you dont get a complete and you are running third party addons, disable them and then it should work.

Edited, Mon Sep 19 19:06:34 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I also did this quest at lvl40 I went through the tunnel seen the chest cast a detect traps spell and that completed the first of the quests then I went and talk to Farah who then sent me on the quest for syndicate badges (I wish people would kill those they pickpocket for new rewards) small hint dont kill the horde prisoners I got 2 DH kills because of that. I collected 70 badges went through the dier giving these individually to the guards outside and when I gave them the 30 that stopped the blue question mark. This is where the Trail becomes cold nothing new, no new quests nothing and you dont even get xp for completeing the badges. This quest sux I suggest Rogues avoid it simply because it is a dead trail.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Well, I finished the quest. Took about 30 emblems. The guards then tell you to talk to Winston Wolfe, and what a surprise, he doesn't talk to you. Seems they're just adding one step at a time to the quest.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I had horrible luck with him today. I killed Milton Beats 4 times and he didnt give me the Rite of Cunning once. He didnt leave a corpse just disappeared every time, not sure whats up, think quest is broken.

EDIT: Sneak up to it with detect traps up. You get the rite of cunning. Silly me didnt read the poster below.

Now i'm doing the emblems.

Rzar - 28 rogue Gilnaes

Edited, Wed Dec 22 07:42:36 2004

Kommentar von Allakhazam

So you walk straight past the 'obvious' box and into the manor. Chat with the guy upstairs then head on out. Head on over to the Keep that you should have passed on the way there and start pickpocketing all the guys. You'll get emblems from them. Collect about 25 or so of them.. the more the better.

Once you think you have enough head back and chat with the guards who patrol the manor grounds. They all should have exclaimations above their heads. Submit each emblem and watch your 'Reputation' with them grow.. Soon enough you'll reach a friendly status and they will turn from Yellow NPC's to Green NPC's.

From there I'm not sure what happens. I havn't been able to find anything to do next...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I think that all Rogues should send Blizzard a mail an tell them to fix this quest. There are´nt so many Rogue quests and we need all of them.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I ended up stealing 51 badges because, well, it felt like the Robin Hood thing to do and it was so much fun ;p

Kommentar von Allakhazam

78, 20

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I think the quest is broken. I just went to do it and I didn't have to do anything with the chest, I simply walked up to it and it said I had completed the quest. I went back after turning the quest in and I can no longer even click the chest.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This quest works fine. Killing the guy that spawns from opening the chest is not the answer. You have to use your rogue abilities... I could tell you which one, but that wouldn't be any fun now would it.

Once you use your rogue ability, walking through the cave will give you the Cunning. You then talk to thte guy in the house.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The question mark on his head is white and all he does is laugh at me and ask me if I've met "the beater" yet when I talk to him. I can't get the next quest off him. Any suggestions?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I spoke to a GM personally after I got to that part (disappointed) and he told me the quest is unfinished by the devs.

He said Winstone Wolfe and the rest of the Ravenholdt quests should be open for business soon, but that he couldn't say exactly when.

UR

Kommentar von Allakhazam

After you completed this step Fahrad askes you to talk to the guards outside. I did and the quest does not fully load up to where I can click on accept. Did you have this problem? Im a lvl 32

Kommentar von Allakhazam

hmm, im lvl 25 and Fahdrad still has a silver question mark above his head like my level is too low...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

You finish the chain of Quests from Wolf whatever his name is at lvl 60. if u looked at the quest class before u click on the actual quest.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Completed this quest elixir of pain and the Syndicate emblems with my lvl 24 rogue solo . Then got to watch an alliacne rogue open the chest and get jumped by the mobs . oh it was priceless. ! 75,23 solid sound coordinates for the path that lead to Ravenholdt

Kommentar von Allakhazam

So when I was like level 30 I got friendly with Ravenholdt through the emblems. But then I got 100 rep above friendly and stopped being able to turn in emblems. I sort of accepted this for a while but then realized I had 78 emblems left in the bank. Is the system bugged or is it supposed to stop taking emblems?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

hey. I've lost my seal of ravenholdt. what should I do?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

So, finished this quest today. Once you get to the general co-ords stated previously, take a close look at your mini-map. You should just be able to pick out the zig-zag mountain path, and the buildings. By the time I got close enough to even be able to interact with the chest, the rite of passage popped up. Talked to the guy upstairs, got my hefty quest reward, and was given the faction quest.

Pickpocketing the emblems is ridiculously easy. You get this quest at 24, the mobs are 20-22. Cake. There're mobs strung out along the south east/west of the "pit" area. They're far enough apart you can pick and kill without worrying about aggro'ing the other mobs. They're closer packed in the northern end, but I was able to pick almost the entire lot, losing stealth only twice.

A great drop-rate and low mobs means this won't take long. Got my 30... and only had to turn in 10. Too bad the trail still goes cold at this point.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Well, for me it only took 12 emblems. I had collected 100 while I was picking locks, and each emblem gave 250 reputation with Ravenholdt.

No offense, Blizzard, but instead of working on a new end-game dungeon you should figure out what the hell went wrong with Ravenholdt. I think that'd be a better edition to the game. :P

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Just so everyone knows as of now this quest is broken once you get past the point of turning in all the syndicate emblems. You will be at friendly stauts and it will tell you to speak with "Winstone" but he will not talk to you at all. I put in a GM request in game and they replied saying that it was not complete yet and they was working on it... so yes we have all done all that work for nothing as of now. Guess we just gotta wait and see what happends .

Kommentar von Allakhazam

You need about 40 emblems to get it to friendly, and after that they dont accept them anymore, im gonna look if it unlocked any new quests now :P

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Anyone know if the quest series has been finished yet? Just started pick-pocketing for emblems, but if there's no point in doing so now (I know the reputation bonus) I may do it later instead...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Do you need to have the detect trap skill to complete the quest?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Hey there,

For those of us not running Cosmos, can somsone submit a screen shot, maybe, showing where this place is? I understand it's up around the northern area - hidden toward the mountains. While I haven't yet started to look for it, I would like to do this class specific quest quickly to get on with my game playing time with my buddies.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

There is alot of info in the posts. See if this buts it all together for you all. The loc is NE part of the zone behind Durnholde Keep. There is a path almost half way between the entrance to the Hinterlands and the river along the mountains. It makes a bunch of S curves and goes into the mountain. There is a chest on the left as you go into the mountain. You need to use detect traps and walk up to it. DO NOT try to open it. It spawns a 33 elite mob that wants to beat you down. Once you get a message that says you have the symbol follow the path into the castle and find Fahrad.

You can start pick pocketing the Syndicate mobs before you talk to Fahrad. It may save you some time. It took about 40 symbols, at lev 29, to get to friendly . The guards stopped taking them and asked if I had talked to Fahrad. I went to see him and he had nothing to say, this was after the inital talk as described above. Some of the other guards in the castle told me to talk to Winstone Wolfe. There was no buble to start a conversation. I would say it is bugged as of June 29, 2005.

Edited, Wed Jun 29 22:19:24 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Required badges to get friendly faction level: 28. Each badge is worth 110 faction. You need 3000.

You can only do this is AFTER you complete the task of gaining your right of passage with the ravenholdt guys. For those of you non-rogues these badges don't appear to drop if you kill them. You have to pickpocket them so non-rogues are apparently unable to gain friendly reputation with these guys.

Note: I looked for a building in the hills, you're not looking for a building, your looking for a cave enterance up a rather unmarked pathway into the hills behind durnholde keep.

Edited, Tue Jun 13 11:41:49 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I just did this quest at lvl 26. You cant turn in the badges until you finish this quest, and I didnt even have detect traps trained, and i did the quest no problem, i just walked thru the cave

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The point is to get friendly with Ravenholdt so you can complete later level quests. I think anyway.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

These missions are still bugged as of today. Wolfe is still not possible to interact with.

I did the missions at lvl 24 and I got 275 rep. per emblem I delivered, so I only had to use about 11.

I didnt use any special skill to "open" the chest in the little tunnel, but just clicked it, and got wacked in 3 blows by Milton Beats.

The detect trap skill is gained at lvl 24 too, and its now a passive skill (though I think its only active when being stealthed, as the icon is in the "Subtlety" section).

Kommentar von Allakhazam

OK, I give, where the hell is Ravenholdt Manor?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Yeah okay. A little northwest of durnhold is that little dagger looking hill. Behind that is a path that leads up the mountin.
Ah the cave. Oh whats this open to pass rite? hmm something smells fishy i better use that sense traps I just got. OH HOHO whats this little crystal thingy? hmm DONT open the box? okay then better just move along. hmm hmm hmm ah you the guy I need to talk to? right whose micon/miton/whatever? no didnt meet him...sounds liek I should be glad I didnt.
Well better go get me some medals.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

*** i casted detect trap and sat there for a min til it said i finished right of cunning! ***

Edited, Tue Feb 15 12:15:17 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I cant seem to locate the person/object who starts this quest, a friend told me its someone in UC in the outer ring of the rogues quarter, but ive tried talking to everyone, nothing. if anyone knows the name/loc of the start npc/item drop (whatever starts this quest) the info would be greatly appreciated, id like to get the tokens done before i have to turn in 5 million of them so ill at least be ready for the next step when i get to the level to do it, or they finish the quest, or whatever.

EDIT: nevermind, i found it, another friend told me not to look for a ! but to talk to a rogue trainer and one of them would tell me they have something for me that looks important. At which time i recieved the note that starts it.

Edited, Thu Oct 13 17:16:53 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If you get to fahrad and he asks you if you meet milton and laughs at you. It's because you did what I did and opened the chest back in the cave and battled the elite mob. Go back to the cave and cast detect traps, you will see a blue jew like thing over the chest, and when you walk over to it. It will complete the quest - no need to open it. Go back to fahrad and complete the quest.

Edited, Tue Jan 17 21:35:42 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

At 75,22 there is the beggining of a path that leads to the manor. For those of your without map mods. If you head straight east from Tarren mill you should end up at the path, you just have to pay attention to your mini map.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

What happens after u get ur reputation to friendly.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

You have to walk up to the chest.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The starting area for the path is 75,23. If you don't have the addon you can google "MetaMap" and use it, once you find the path follow it and stealth all the way thru the cave, going right past the chest. For the next quest you will need about 30 Syndicate Emblems to become neutral with Ravenholdt.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

With the new way Rep is calculated it only takes 10 Syndicate Emblems to get friendly.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Is there a special item when you become freindly with these guys? Maybe someone has said in all these posts but I'm just being a bit thick?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

So is there any sort of reward for "completing" the badge portion?

Also, I obtained this quest from the Rogue trainer in Stormwind when I was 24-ish (can't remember exact level).

Has anyone seen any additional quests with the NPCs in the Manor after doing the badges?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

you start this quest from a gnome rogue trainer in Fornlorn Cavern in IF. he is upstairs next to table in the rogue trainer building, he is like a lvl 40 trainer, he says he has something for you and when you get it, the medallion starts the quest

Kommentar von Allakhazam

took me about 28-30 emblems to get the friendly status

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This is driving me crazy : I have the Quest, I found the chest, I used detect raps, I now completed the Rite of Cunning, I went to the Manor, I talked to Fahrad, He said "Did you meet Milton?" REQUIRED ITEMS : Seal of Ravenholdt. . I don't have the Seal THAT CAME WITH THE FREAKIN LETTER. . . . Fahrad has a yellow "quest turn-in " question mark above his head, but I dont have the stupid seal ; I can't continue the quest. I have logged out, logged back in, restarted and EVERYTHING : That Seal JUST won't pop into my inventory. . . Someone Help Me!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The new patch makes Dtect traps passive and i went running through back iN forth fromside to side nothing ha[[enend what do i do to get th rite?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

So they said that this quest was broken for a while...

Is it fixed yet?

I doubt I have the patience to go through 90% of it only to be turned away at the prospect of a broken ending, lol.

UR

Kommentar von Allakhazam

that's what i want to know

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ok maybe Im crazy but does the next step require you to be a lvl 60? if so why make us go threw the fist step only to come to a grinding halt.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

From who and where do you get this quest?

Thanks for your time

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Well I think quest is still broke to date. Opened a ticket to see if they have an ETA for fix.

Anyway, here's the steps to get all the way to where the chain quest is broken:

1. Go to tunnel that leads into Ravenholdt.
2. Right at entrance of tunnel, there is a chest. Do NOT open chest. Cast Detect Traps and Rite of Cunning quest completes.
3. Go talk to Fahrad.
4. Go to Durnholde Keep directly South of Ravenholdt and Pick Pocket 30 Syndicate Emblems (and no the reputation is not affected by your level). I'm lvl36 and it took exactly 30 to get from Neutral to Friendly rep.
5. Go turn in Syndicate Emblems with any guard at Ravenholdt. They will have the blue question marks over their heads.
6. When you reach turning in 30 emblems, you see that the guards will no longer accept any more. Talking to the guards again, they will direct you to talk to Fahrad again.
7. After visiting Fahrad, talking to guards will now direct you to Winstone Wolfe.
8. When you go downstairs to talk to Winstone, he has no question marks and quest chain stops there.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

So is this quest working yet todate?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If you find that 3 or 4 in a row have no loot at all when you pickpocket it means they have been picked by another rogue recently. Then it's best to kill as you, so that you have fresh mobs as thye re-pop. You'll get some copper - and I even got a Ring of nature protection.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ok, I looked through the other posts but didn't see anyone with the same problem ad mine. I completed the chest part of the quest and talked to Fahrad. He DID ask me about Milton but I turned in the seal to him with no problem. He directed me to the guards outside who have blue question marks above their heads now, but when I try to get the quest for the collect badges the continue button is greyed out. Any ideas?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Maybe Blizzard changed this, Detect Traps is now Passive and I simply ran through the tunnel, no stealth.
The chest says "walk by to complete the Quest".
And I think you get 300+ rep, if you do get 300, collect 27 Syndicate Emblems from Durnholde to reach friendly.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

YAY I JUSTGA FINISHED THE QUEST BUT ...... IM LVL 44 IT TOOK ME 20 LVL TO FINISH IT

Kommentar von Allakhazam

as if july 12, I would say the chain is either not done or bugged. Winston is not available to interact with.

*shrug*

What's next rogues?

Well, the good news is I still got 100 faction increase for every emblem I turned in even though I am lvl 36. I say get friendly and wait until the fix comes out.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Cast detect trap, you see the crystal. If you don't feel like waiting around a minute to get the quest completed, activate the chest. That spawns the Elite mob, Cast Vanish and walk away. Mob de-spawns, Rite of Cunning 1/1 complete.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

We have to wait till 60 to complete this quest? What happens after that point? Any more info?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I have just completed this quest solo at level 25 on Proudmoore US Server.
Location of path is correct at tloc 74.25.
For those without coords it is almost directly north of Durnhold Keep.
DO NOT OPEN the chest. Cast Detect traps at the entrance to the cave. Walk over to the chest and you should get the Cunning Completed.
Go on up and talk to Fahrad. Get the xp. Go talk with the Guards and they will tell you to go collect emblems from the Syndicate (20-23) in Durnhold Keep.
You must pickpocket them to get them.
It took me only 29 emblems to get Friendly with Ravenholdt.
Once you have 30 or so go back to Ravenholdt.
Hand in all 30 (1 at a time) to a guard with a blue question mark over their head.

Now the sad part. This information is directly from a GM as of Thursday 6th October (Australian time)

The other guards will go tell you to talk to Winstone. You cannot get the next quest from him until around level 55. The GM I spoke to (Korcift) said that a correction to what the guards tell you do is being implemented soon.

that's all folks.

just thought you might like to know.

exhume

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I wasted over an hour on this ! Only to find no question mark over Ravenholts head after delivering 30 emblems ? Wierd.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

In the tunnel leading into the Ravenholdt compound (you'll encounter it before you get to the tower) is a chest on the left hand side. Cast detect traps and move along. Then Farad will complete the quest for you.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i cant find this stupid cave helpppppppp!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I just turned in the emblems and was told to speak to Winston Wolfe but um I cant he dosent even have a gray ? nothing I tryed the salute nuthin so yeah I assume that its still broken so yeah If any one else has any info post it ...... thx

Kommentar von Allakhazam

How do you start this quest?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Stupid question. How do u get to Hillsbrad Foothills from SW if youve never been there before?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I did this quest and then collected enough syndicate tokens to gain friendly faction with ravenholdt ... so what happens next? I assumed that if I did this they would give me quests, but no one is offering quests for my lvl 26 human rogue.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i cannot find this chest...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

the quest is far from being bugged. You do not interact with the chest, you pass it, if you ever moused over the blue crystal above it, which is there because of detect trap, you would have known that.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

don't open the chest when you do a lvl 33 elite shows up and will attack you if you kill him he won't drop any thing so not worth to open

Kommentar von Allakhazam

You get this quest at level 24 and start with a Neutral (0/3000) repuation with Ravenholdt.

Upon completion of the quest, you receive 100 reputation points.

For each of the first 30 badges you turn in, you also get 100 reputation points.

At this point, you are Friendly (100/6000).

Reputation tests show that if you wait 5 levels from the level of the quest (24), the number of points gained per turn in will start to go down about 20% per level. At about level 35, you will start getting only 10% or the original reputation gains for the quest and for each emblem turned in.

I got this today at level 24 and immediately went and did it. At least killing a few of the sydicate to create emblem turn over was still worth experience to me. The next quest in the series has not been added at this time.

I highly suggest that those of you that are thinking about waiting till later to complete the faction portion of this quest get it done as early as possile so that you can do the least amount of work for maximum reputation and experience gain.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

So far this just seems like a silly faction quest. Although I had fun with my partner pickpocketing our way through camps and whatnot. It's a fun little roleplay your rogue quest, but no rewards besides a warm fuzzy feeling. Not worht the trouble unless they get around to adding something to this line.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i went to the guy then all it says it did you meet milton? laughes. what do i do?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

What do i get if i get friendly ehit them ?is there a bonus or something?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The quest has changed slightly.
Running BC, the Detect Traps skill is now passive so it cannot be cast on the chest in the tunnel. To complete the Quest, walk up to the chest and right click to open. DO NOT let the timer finish. A blue rectangular prism appears above the box that reads "DO NOT OPEN move on." The quest is completed and can be turned in. If the time finishs a lvl 33 guard pops out to kill you. You complete the quest either way but you die the hard way.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

.....The Lord of the Manor on the top floor is also a Rogue Master Trainer. Check him out for 'special' training. Funny I haven't seen this posted before....?

Zz, a Forsaken Rogue.......

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i've noticed how upset many rogues are here. there's nothing we can do for now, just relax. i'm sure they'll fix this within the next..umm..yeah.

anyway, while you may not get a reward from this (yet!), you still learn to pickpocket a lot more efficiently, and the lockboxes you pick up should help you raice your lockpicking skill a little bit.

i turned in somewhere around 40 emblems, more or less. but nothing more than a friendly rep for me.

happy hunting fellow rogues.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

People, read the chain of post here, some of you are posting the same damn thing over and over. We know you cant complete the quest, it has been stated more than once that GM's have been contacted and the answer was that the quest line has not been completed by the developement team. Stop coming here and posting without reading, its freaking annoying, work for the answer a little. READ! :|

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I only needed 25 emblems to get my faction reputation changes from nuetral to friendly.

And in case it's not clear from other posts: you can only get emblems via pickpocketing, not by killing and looting.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I'm friendly, and after bring them some emblems, they give me a quest (give them 5 heavy junkboxes for the training of the rogues).
I bring them this boxes and now i'm a bit more friendly, the quest is repeatable but its too hard to grow up above friendly only with lockboxes (25 reputation points for each 5 boxes).

I don't know what is this reputation for, but Blizzard can implement them and explain what they give to rogues, so i can continue.

Casilda - Skullcrusher

Kommentar von Allakhazam

75,23 are the coordinates i got for the start of the path.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ok i have been in here for hours on in opening the chest trying to click detect traps andeverythign but it wont work i cannot ghet the rite of cunning WTH

Is it broken?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

From Southshore you pass right by Durnholde Keep so I stopped into the Keep and I pick-pocketed nearly everyone (it's easy to get carried away) then went to Ravenholdt Manor. I completed this quest, hopped down to the guards and kept handing in emblems (10) until I was friendly with them. Done. Much faster than going back and forth. When you leave the keep go around the west side and then west along the southern edge of the mountains. You will run right into the path to the Manor.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

damn I accidentally abandoned this quest, where is the NPC that starts it?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

When I was level 24 I didn't want 'detect traps', it didnt seem necessary and I figured I'd get it later. I figured out that you need it to complete this quest, and bought it from the dude who the quest gets turned in to. It was easy once I realized that, but confusing till then.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Make sure that you go through the tunnel and detect traps on the chest. I found my way to the house from the east through the mountains (somehow) and it took me awhile to realize that I had skipped the chest.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

don't make it more complex sounding than it is, all you have to do is when you reach level 24 you talk to a rogue trainer, any rogue trainer as far as i can tell, and they'll give you the letter...you don't need to go seeking out some specific trainer at the Forge

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I have 83 badges and my reputation didnt move a bit. What should i do? I'm level 35 now and nothing. Started at 24. Also anyome knows what to do with the syndicate marks?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I dont know why.....but i and another rogue have had the biggest diffuculty finding The Hold where he is... I looked all through the MT N of the Keep please post me some info...i feel like a goofball

Kommentar von Allakhazam

how do i get to fahrad?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Took 12 Turn-in's. 24 Troll Rogue to get Friendly. No idea what friendly gets me except the guards saying nicer things lol.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Obviously.

Don't remember what it was, but this one is from WC.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

all i did was find the cave and when i was walking thru it i got the message that i had completed it.

the path to the cave is kinda zigg-zagg-ish just head up a hill and turn around to look if there's another hill to go up

It's north to a little bit west of durnholde keep.

Had to post somethin helpful y'know lol :P

Kommentar von Allakhazam

mmmk, after getting this quest you need to find Ravenholdt. It is located on the east side of the river near tarren mill, if you look above Durnholde Keep theres sorta a crater looking thing on the map, right above that theres a path leading to a cave. In the cave theres a chest, ***dont open the chest** a lvl 33 elite guy attacks you. Instead use your Detect Traps rogue move and you will see the chest is a trap, good job. proceed up the cave to the manor then talk to the guy upstairs. Next you talk to the gaurds and they say to get sydicate emblems, go to Durnholde pick pocket about 20-30 emblems and return them to get your reputation up to friendly. After that i guess they will add more quests later cause theres no one to talk to..

p.s: Kill the gaurds you pickpocket! they only give the emblems once!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The pathway up to Ravenholdt keep is at 75,20.

If you cast Detect Trap, you will see the the trap as a crystal above the chest in the connecting tunnel.

You have to spawn Milton (level 32 elite rogue) in order for Fahrad to talk to you. Dying is not really that big a deal if you don't mind the run back.

The emblems appear as loot only if you pickpocket.

The lockboxes are also a nice way to raise your LP skill. Best loot so far has been a pocket watch and 1s35c.

oh, and 1950 xp for me at 27.

Edited, Wed Mar 30 02:51:09 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Just finished this quest did the same thing a one of you did hehe whent threw missed the chest cause like an idiot i followed the directions when is said dont open move along lol but i whent back went towards it and i got the cunning thing but opened the chest but luckly my friend was there and he kill him... went to fahrad got the emblem quest i collected 45 of them turned them in had like 3 or 4 left or something but i was friendly after turning them all in, but the quest is still bugged or not finished or something cause no one will give more quest or what not hopefully the finished this and make a nice reward for finishing the quests for this place...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

when you get to the NPC ravenholt, if he has a white question mark above his head, chances are you didn't get the rite of cunning, ie, the chest in the tunnel as you come into ravenholt area.

this happened to me, i totally missed the chest.

i went back and did a detect trap on that when i was in range, got the cunning item right away. (didn't fight any npcs because i didn't activate the chest)

after that, it's like everyone else has already described.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Once You go through the treshold of the cave, you MUST activate detect traps, and then just move over to the chest stand there a second or two, and your done!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

where is it

Kommentar von Allakhazam

84,80

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Years after release, there still seems no point in doing this quest other than the fun of pickpocketing dozens of mobs. No bonus, no new skill, no weapon, nothing.

Kommentar von alphasigmasigma

This quest is not Horde-exclusive. Alliance rogues of appropriate level can speak to Master Matthias Shaw, who will have a letter for them which begins this quest.

Kommentar von Markov41

You need to train Detect Traps for Shaw to offer you this quest.

Kommentar von Magnitudinus

Make sure you have the skill Detect Traps. You can still see the trap without the skill, but your quest will not be completed when you walk past the chest.

If needed you can buy the skill from Fahrad inside Ravenholdt Manor.

Kommentar von doughboy7112

Das Ausplündern der Plünderer If you want to level your Lockpicking easily and fast please do this particular quest!

Please note, I stumbled upon this by accident while running around in the boat for this quest.

1) I remember Being Level 22 I believe.
2) I did NOT follow the quest instructions and I ended up get my Butt Destroyed by this Giant Parrot
that is murderous until you git it a Frickin Cracker! NO JOKES.! Anyways, just read the frickin quest instructions.

3) After you have murdered the that Evil Saltine Cracker Eatin Mofo DO Not Leave the Boat. On the Second level of this boat
is a room full of pickable Chests with instant respawns, This was an OMG moment!

4) I believe I was only Skill Level 20-22 in Lockpicking, These chests brought me to level 99 Lockpicking picking in only about 20-30
minutes.

I am not sure if this is legit, but a room full of chests that you can pick and that respawn are a gift.

Check it out and let me know your thoughts on this please. Thank You!

Kommentar von Coldbear

Where does this quest start? Horde rogue here and never saw it at a trainer...

Ok, full stop. Looks like the UC rogue trainer will have a dialogue option that says "May I have it, please." which will lead to getting Eleganter Brief

Kommentar von Taraezor

The foot of the path up to the Ravenholdt Manor starts at (75.39,24.26) on the Hillsbrad Foothills map and (76.05,86.65) on the Alterac Mountains map, and can be approached from multiple directions.

Kommentar von jsantosv

Just finished farming rep until friendly as a human. It took exactly 27 Emblems. Winston still doesn't have a quest, so it seems this quest line was never finished, even for WoW Classic.

Kommentar von samuelvvv

I don't know where people are getting 10 or 12 emblems. It took me 30 at 100 reputation each (non-human) to get to friendly. After that I could talk to the engineering vendor in the basement, and Rahad became a regular rogue trainer, but I didn't see any other benefits from friendly reputation at my level (31).

Kommentar von Aloradus

2020

Alliance, this quest begins at our Stormwind trainer in Old Town: Osborne.
At the top of the dialog box he says he has something for you.
In the list of choices there is a "May I have it please" item. Choose that and
you receive an Elegant Letter that starts the quest.

Kommentar von NarcoIeptic

How do I start this quest?

Kommentar von yannis390

I was able to start this quest after speaking to the Rogue trainer in Orgrimmar (the troll). He had updated dialogue saying he had received a letter for me. There was a new option in the dialogue box to accept the "Elegant Letter". This item starts the quest.

Kommentar von Rhelan

To find Ravenholdt without coords, go directly north of the 'H' in Durnholde Keep, Southshore. You should see a graveyard (no spirit healer AFAIK). From here, go left over a small hill, then look for a dirt path in the ground which climbs up and right - the sort of dirt path which exist everywhere in WoW, particularly in Mulgore and Durotar.

As it happens, you can complete this quest *and* click the blue thing, which I did mistakenly. It spawns a lev~31 elite, from whom you can easily Vanish and survive.

Kommentar von Jimmu410

2022 and there still doesn't seem to be any follow up quest. It seems like it was meant to be an extensive suite of quests that never got implemented.

Kommentar von PerkyFlamingo

HC'ers, no need to bother with this quest. Doesn't give anything except for the Ravenholdt rep.

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Das Anwesen, Ravenholdt

Bringt das Ravenholdt-Siegel zu Fahrad im Ravenholdt-Anwesen, das versteckt in den Hügeln von Hillsbrad liegt.

Unterwegs wird man Eure Schlauheit testen. Seid darauf gefasst.

	Ritus der Schlauheit (1)
	Siegel von Ravenholdt (Bereitgestellt) (1)

Beschreibung

<Name>,

Ravenholdt interessiert sich für Euch, junger Dieb. Wir haben Euch beobachtet. Euer Stil ist ein bisschen unbeholfen, aber daran können wir arbeiten.

Wenn Ihr bereit seid, eine Karriere als Schüler von Meister Ravenholdt in Angriff zu nehmen und Mitglied der Auftragsmörderliga zu werden, müsst Ihr nur das Ravenholdt-Siegel (diesem Brief beigefügt) zum Ravenholdt-Anwesen bringen.

Eure erste Aufgabe ist es, das Anwesen zu finden, das versteckt in den Hügeln von Hillsbrad liegt, um Eure Schlauheit zu demonstrieren.

Hochachtungsvoll,

Fahrad

Fortschritt

Vervollständigung

Belohnungen

Ihr bekommt:

Belohnungen

Bei Abschluss dieser Quest erhaltet Ihr:

100 Ruf mit der Fraktion Ravenholdt

Wenn du Folgendes im Spiel eingibst, kannst du überprüfen, ob du das schon abgeschlossen hast:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(6681))

Das Anwesen, Ravenholdt

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