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This is the final boss of Blackwing Lair.

Information available at http://www.wowwiki.com/Nefarian

Stage 1 is probably the most difficult part of the fight to learn. Once your raid has mastered it, the rest of the fight is not so bad. Only thing that might trip you up is the Contstruct zerg at 20%.

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Observe the following videos for the ideal situation on how to handle the Draknoid rush

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9z2XBCIVaHg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QnXZ36b_pto

Your tanking team must be able to hold them closely together for casters to rain AOE on them like a downpour.

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P H A S E - I
After talking to Nefarian, Drakonids spawn from two entrances in the room. For each instance id two brood afflictions are randomly chosen for them. Each entrance spawns one type. The Drakonids will continue to spawn until 42 of them have been killed. Then Nefarian lands --> Phase II.

Nefarius himself runs around the room during this phase, casts shadowbolts and sheeps players.

P H A S E - I I
Nefarian (bid dragon) lands.

Nefarian Shouts

Nefarian tries to **** each class to maximum effect, this is what will happen:

Priests - Must not heal, otherwise the target will get a stacking debuff with each heal that lands (lasts 20-30 seconds)
Druids - Stuck in catform
Rogues - Will be ported to Nefarian and cannot move
Mages - Random polymorph of other raidmembers into giraffs/cows/etc.
Warrior - Stuck in Berserker Stance
Warlocks - Spawning infernals
Hunters - Ranged weapon in use will break (unequip before each class call)
Paladins - Nefarian becomes immune to melee damage
Shaman - Hostile totems

Apparently these happen one at a time... remotely similar to Bloodlord Mandokir's "I'm watching you"

Bellowing Roar
Simple AoE fear. Can be countered by Fear Ward and Berserker Rage. LoS check.

Tail Whip
Stuns briefly. (damage? duration?)

Cleave
Frontal physical AoE (not yet exactly sure about its AoE angle, seems to be somewhere between 90 and 120�)

-75% healing curse
Dispellable -75% healing curse on the current aggro-holder. Has to be dispelled

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P H A S E - I I I
At 20% Nefarian resurrects the previously killed drakonids as undead.

--- Our current tactic -------------------------------------------------

PHASE I

We split raid into two independent teams. They are camping one spawn point each. Rogues and Warriors of each team stand right in the gate to the cave where the Drakonids spawn. Via /assist they focus all damage on one after another and kill them as fast as they spawn. The warriors in the teams will mainly use cleave/retaliation/sweeping strike/whirlwind whenever available to get as much aggro on them as possible. Mages/Warlocks keep the are under constandt blizzard/fire rain. No more than 4 drakonids should be alive at one time. Those who get shadowbolted by Nefarian during this phase have to be healed quickly. Usually Nefarius pesters the team at the spawn point near the room entrance.

(we usually have 3 warriors on each side)

(in case of red drakonids warlock AoE has no effect on them, so we have mages in one team, warlocks in the other)

PHASE II

3 Priests and 3 Druids together with MT1 (fearwarded) go grab Nefarian and position him correctly while the rest of the raid kills the remaining Drakonids (spawns stop when Nefarian lands)

From here on its a straight forward fight. Every now and then a AoE fear and a class shout.

Warlock: as soon as the infernals spawn they have to be killed ASAP to prevent them from going rogue on casters.

Priests: the moment the shout goes off, all priests have to immediately cancel their channeled heal, sit there and do nothing until the debuff wears out. If a heal lands, the targetted player gets a stacking DoT DoT each time a heal lands. Renew and shield can still be cast.

Druid: the druid shout doest do anything bad to druids, they are just stuck in cat. However this naturally takes away a lot of healing.

At all times, especially just before a fear, the MT should have a full set of HoTs on him to bridge the heal-less time.

Last but not least the rogue shout: This one just ports the rogues in front of Nefarian in a stun lock. If they get hit by Nefarian's Shadowflame or a couple of cleaves they die. To counter this, Nefarian is always positioned at an angle (see illustration) and in case of a rogue call immediately turned to the alternate position.

Last but not least nefarian casts a -70% healing curse on the MT. Has to be dispelled immediately (druids job).

Mages: Since the mage class call can mess up the tanking and healing quite severely if not dispelled asap, we keep mages in a position without LoS to the MT and Healers (see illustration)

PHASE III

The Drakonids we killed before rise back to life in the exact spot they were killed before. At 22% all mages and warlocks get in position near the spawn points to kill off the bone constructs immediately with AoE. A hunter sets up a frost trap in the middle of the bone pile on each side to slow the initial movement of the spawns.

Mages keep the spawns in nova-lock (using a limited invulnerability potions to get away). Ideally the mobs are all locked down until they are dead. As soon as the first mobs are immobilized Fire Rains and Blizzards are used to kill.

Once the main packs are dead, the spawns that managed to escape are killed and the fight resusmes as normal for the last 20%!

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Nefarian, son of Deathwing, is the leader of the Black Dragonflight. In his human guise, he is known as Victor Nefarius, Lord of Blackrock. Holding the Blackrock Clan and various clans of ogres under his dominion, Nefarian rules from his lair at the top of Blackrock Spire.

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We don't have the lowest droprate dumbass. It's calculated like that because 10 storms can't drop for alliance, and vice versa with judgement

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Offhand, I believe he has about 3 million HP. The Nefarian encounter is without a doubt the longest encounter up to that point. It easily lasts about 10-15 minutes the first few times you kill him.

The first phase is really the hard part. If you can get past the Drakonids and are able to get Nef and the raid positioned correctly, the rest of the fight is relatively easy. If you get into phase 2 and still have at least 30 of your raid up, there's no reason you shouldn't kill him. In your early encounters with Nef, I'd advise having the tank use Lifegiving Gem or Last Stand on Warrior Calls to give your healers some breathing room - also keep your trigger finger ready to pop a Major Healing Potion if necessary. Another good idea is to pop Shield Wall at 20/19% when the Bone Constructs are rez'd - this will help give your healers some breathing room.

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It is so easy if u use the right tacktic:

Have all ranged and healers stand on the throne and all melee in front of the throne. Have 1 warrior spam BATTLESHOUT. He agro's all incoming mobs and u can aoe them without any problem. U will never ever loose a single person during this phase. And the second phase with 40 man is easy.

The 3th phase is also very easy couse u have 1 pile of corpses thats easy aoe albe.

Chromaggus with timelapse is way harder then nefarian.

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"It is so easy if u use the right tacktic:

Have all ranged and healers stand on the throne and all melee in front of the throne. Have 1 warrior spam BATTLESHOUT. He agro's all incoming mobs and u can aoe them without any problem. U will never ever loose a single person during this phase. And the second phase with 40 man is easy."

Yep, heres how we do phase 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-2JQgYuNcU

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FIRST

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I personally find it retarted that you can fit nefarians head in a bag, but thats just me...

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I didnt know Nef can drop the Ashbringer? is this a mistake or is it truely possible?

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ummmm........just to let everyone know, chances are Blizzard designed each class with equal amounts of strengths and weaknesses, so they all really come out even in the end. Therefore, you can all stop posting angry comments back and forth about who is better. Besdies this is a posting on Nefarian's drops....so why are we talking about which class is better?

.........anyways we all know druids pwn all.....lol i wish

60 druid on Scarlet Crusade server

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Black Wing Lair: BWL is known as the hardest instance in the game so why is it MC was supose to be at lvl cap 60.. so its becouse Blizzard wanted to se if players are good enogh to do it btw its a lvl 70 raid instance. so at lvl 70 its supose to be as hard as MC is at lvl 60 :S
anyways blizz wanted to check is its doeble with hardcore 60s and actually it is.. its same as 20 lvl 50 in ZG or 40 lvl 50 in MC. Thanx for understanding what i wrote i suck big time in writing lofl. but my point is that this is a lvl 70 instance and it will be when Burning Cruseade comes to but it wont be the hardest one then xD but still amazing hard.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

no, nefarian IS deathwing, he changes his name..

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Chick Norris FTW!

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Nefarain doesn't drop Ashbringer!

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Neltharian = FATHER of both Nefarian and Onyxia. Neltharian is also known as "Deathwing" http://www.wowwiki.com/Deathwing
Nefarian = Eldest son of Neltharian's. Cunning Dragon. http://www.wowwiki.com/Nefarian
Onyxia = Younger sister of Nefarian. The more intelligent dragon. http://www.wowwiki.com/Onyxia

I would also like to note that Ashbringer DOES NOT drop off of Nefarian. Please do more research before you come to these conclusions. There are many posts on the WoW General forums, including a greatly sized thread with a lot of collected information.

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Ash Rulz..frEver

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I would solo him with my lvl 244 mage

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Uhm, killed 147 times, dropped same &*!@ all over. bugged boss /cry gimme wrath breastplate plix

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What is Onyxias story :/

how does she connect to Nefarian and Deathwing?

I heard rumors about She being the Spawn of Deathwing and mother to Nefarian, but i've also heard some rumors saying that she is the Twin of Nefarian.

Dragon Story>Complicated :x

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Is this just me or does this dragon look like one of the dragon in Spyro? *grins*

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Why is his Loottable Wiped?

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Have you guys read the preview of hellfire citadel? Deep roars coming from the bottom of the citadel? Maybe another dragon, perhaps *nudge*

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this dragon is so easy

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A guide to killing Nefarian and claiming your phat lewts can be found here:

http://kegsta2.customer.netspace.net.au/nef.JPG

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To get Ashbringer you have to do a quest that really isent a quest, follow endless of clues, untill you finaly get it.
TBH quite inpossible...

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Deathwing(Neltharion) is second strongest being in warcraft universe,that is if he is alive..the strongest is King Arthas. and if 40 man raid will be able to Kill them..thats just gonna be so freaking lame...

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We received:

Robes of Transcendence
Netherwind Robes
Head of Nefarian...
Prestor's Talisman of Connivery
Therazane's Link

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Spawned him second night, 98% wipe hehe. He is bugged too, so if you get him into stage 2, he wont respawn if you wipe :(

http://www.holy-carnage.com/images/home/nef_phase_ii/nef_ii_6.jpg

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Chuck Norris can solo Nefarian and Ragnaros - both at the same time.

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83 copper
2 wool cloth
pointy dragon tooth (sells at vender for 4 silver)

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I'm very happy to see all the kick ass caster loot off this guy. Much better than what rag dropped for us

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around about 40 guilds now.

not even 10 of them are horde... alliance=easymode ftw.

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When you get to Nefarius Does he turn into nefarian?

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HFC......definatly deathwing....no way it couldnt be, if youve played the other Warcraft games or read the books or know anything about the lore, all signs point to neltharion....deathwing the destroyer.....cant wait, that also might be where some of the alliance heroes from WC2 beyond the dark portal are at

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I think it would be interesting if he dropped the 2 tier epic chest pieces--but also something like the bracers of a legendary chest piece (set would be in that new 40 man coming to Silithus)

Just a thought

anyone wanna post a pic?

Edited, Thu Sep 22 22:22:32 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Deathwing's eldest son, the malicious and cunning Nefarian, Nefarian and Onyxia is Deathwings children, not as Badaslim says :P, Onyxia is the daughter of the mighty dragon Deathwing and younger than Nefarian,

Location of Deathwing:
No one knows Deathwing's current location (except perhaps other members of the black dragonflight), but it's possible he may have returned to his lair on Draenor, near the Dark Portal. This is 100% pure speculation, with no evidence to back it up.

His known names:
The Earth-Warder
Neltharion the Betrayer
Deathwing
Xaxas (High-Elven name)
Lord Prestor (Human form)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

yea.. i solod this guy at level 49. :)

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My guild didnt get to nefarian yet and i wonder if any1 uses major recombobulators https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=37686 during the fight?=p

Edited, Sun Jan 15 21:04:07 2006

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Nefarion is not the strongest mob in game its C'thun which is the only god that wasnt banished by the Titans but thought to be destoyed as he created the Qiraj. also the leader of hellfire citadel is Magtheridon a Pit lord like Mannoroth and he controls the fel orcs now...well actually hes prolly being held prisoner there but since hes a big ass mofo he prolly exerts some control over the orcs like mannoroth did

Edited, Fri Apr 7 14:20:04 2006

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Nefarian's sister is hot.

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It doesn't matter which class is what race or what faction. It is all unknown how really loot drops.
Some horde guilds get felheart and nemesis a lot and no priest loot while others get warrior and priest and no warlock loot.... In my server almost every single shaman in a MC raiding guild gets full set before any other class... and some guilds get full felhearts in one run while others get no felheaart drop at all....

Same happens with alliance and with other sets ... some myths like who leads the raid, who zones in first might change loot tables but...as i said not definitive.

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Actually, all in all, there's been about 10 kills (I know there's been about 6 on the US side, not sure on the EU side)

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Nefarian is so uber 1337. Like, on the level of so 1337, he's not there. If that's acceptable. o.O

Anyways, can anyone tell me what the lockdown for BWL is? Just curious.

Oh, and I would be posting in the BWL forums, but me not registered.

Edited, Sun Nov 6 19:44:11 2005

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Is this just me or does this dragon look like one of the dragon in Spyro? *grins*

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ca mon bliz, can u raise the drop rate of the shaman gear, we r last for everthing :*( all r gear is in last place for drop rates, we need Wuvins 2, not like those dam hunters >:( tanks, and priests i can see for a high drop rate, cuz they make up the body of the raid, but when useless Hunters hav higher drop rates....

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Does anyone have the Guild Drama on Shattered Hand's homepage available? I can't seem to find it. Thanks

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yo he is big :O

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Have you guys tried to talk to the prince in the libary?

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3 kills, horde on destromath/EU killed him wednesday

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Here's some info in Onyxia's relation to Nefarian and Deathwing aka Neltharion

http://www.wowwiki.com/Onyxia
http://www.wowwiki.com/Nefarian
http://www.wowwiki.com/Deathwing/Neltharion

I even think it's stated somewhere on WoW's (www.worldofwarcraft.com / www.wow-europe.com) own homepage under their lore section.

Edited, Thu Dec 8 09:33:31 2005

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I spawned Onyxia, Nefarian, and ragnaros in the middle of stormwind. It was sweeeet.

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Alright im officially tired of all the #$%^heads that post on these forums... IF YOU DONT KNOW WTF YOUR TALKING ABOUT PLEASE SHUT THE *!@# UP...

fdlhkmfkhmkg - Why are you posting on these forums? you obviously havent grown a $%^&ing brain yet... HOW are paladins the best class? They are one of the worst PvP you &*!@ing $%^& licker... PvE=Paladin... anyone can solo a paladin except rogues because there a terrible class too.

paladins ARE one of the worst classes in the game... they have no attack at all...and they are a tool in raids... THATS IT a tool. Paladins are scrubby.

and your a @#$%ing noob fdlhkmfkhmkg so please quit WoW now... your the kinda people that ruin the game.

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Mist, a horde guild on Draenor, just killed Nefarian yesterday at 00:00 and beat all other guilds that has cleared BWL with 41 days (if i'm correct)

http://www.mriswith.com/mist

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Alakhazam is just tryin to get us amazed that 177m raids have killed nefarian.

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How to get the dragon to spawn? What's a trigger on phase 1?

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ya 2x Wrath drop and Ashkandi, Greatsword of the Brotherhood to drop. good night for WARS

Kommentar von Allakhazam

How many lv 60's would it take to take this guy down?

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We use 3 warlock tanks for stage 1. =D

3 Warlocks with intensity (70% chance to resist interuption) and without Blessing of Salvation. We stand in front of 1 gate where 1 group of minions spawn. They rarely get past us, if they do, a warrior picks them up. They die really fast too. :)

On the other side we just down them 1 by 1.

Edit: it's Hellfire I'm talking about of course. =)

Edited, Jul 13th 2006 at 7:44pm EDT by yayayaay

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Good luck to those one's trying to defeat him first! ;-)

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Legendary = items, from bosses that is major bosses, tho, not in WC3 history

Artifact = example, frostmourne, who got history from WC3, so none of those blackwing deathwing, not from the histoy of wc3 will drop an artfact item, easy as that. tho. legendary will keep dropping = orange items. artifact = red. easy to see the difference.

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as far as i know (my college blocks the american wow forums) the alliance guild Drama on Shattered Hand in America killed him
(not not the Drama guild on EU zenedar :P)

This is pretty remarkable considering Shattered Hand is pvp

and can say wtf is up with that necklace:P

Zantetsuken, 60 UD Priest,Ragnaros EU

n.b and guys a huge grats to that as i can'tpost in America

Edited, Tue Sep 27 05:22:36 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i bet he drops phat orange lewtz....or maybe whatever reds are? i cant even imagine how good an orange would be looking at the epics he drops...

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He drops that ass candy sword that all the warriors want. yeah well a guild on the alliance for my server (Terenas) killed him and a warrior was all over teh ass candy sword.

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Yay another boss that just drops caster loot..

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Nefarian is not a Deathwing, He is his son and older brother of Onyxia.

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Nefarian = Neltharion
He is the son of euh.. Deathwing.

Onyxia is his sister.

www.wowwiki.com/nefarian

ftw.

Edited, Sun Mar 19 10:21:20 2006

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Is he the Strongst mob or what?

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Anyone know who the first guild to kill Nefarian was? And possibly what drops they got?

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My guild killed him for the first time today... I can say me as a warrior was rather dissapointed over the loot.
Netherwind Robes * 2
Cloak of the Brood Lord
Boots of the Shadow Flame
And ofcourse Head of Nefarian.
*sigh*

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Here is a great instructional video for the Nefarian fight.

http://files.filefront.com/SEARCH/;5373910;;/fileinfo.html

Nef gets wtfpwnd

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I'm wondering, has anyone defeated Nefarian yet? I've heard of people who tried but never heard anyone claiming victory.

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You'll never touch a mc/bwl equipped paladin..... get used to it.... pallys> warriors in pvp

You think differently? try to take on a paldain one on one fool... you'll get pwnd... BADLY

Stuff that in your rape comments fool!

want me to post the vids of me raping pallies in duels? l2pummel. noob l2p

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Only 2 kills in reallity :)

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hes not level 1.. hes a level 150..on A private server

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Uh, loot list says he drops Ashbringer. Mistake, surely?

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"Except that its gonna be a 5 man dungeon for lvl 60s. I doubt Deathwing will be in there."
HFC is actually going to have multiple wings. In the expansion, with the level cap being 70, the easiest wing will be made for level 70s. As for all this about Ashbringer, with the recent 1.11 patch Blizzard cleared up a ton of this - Scarlet Highlord Mograine, the Ashbringer, is in the new dungeon Naxxramas, and he can drop the Corrupted Ashbringer. As for somebody saying that there is a really long quest to get Ashbringer, it's not true. No one has gotten the Corrupted Ashbringer yet, but there is a rumor that, once you equip it, you can go into the Scarlet Monastery, Cathedral wing, and the enemies there will be allied, and then you can talk to the current Mograine in the actual Cathedral, and something will happen, but you don't get to cleanse the Corrupted Ashbringer yet. Blizzard is saving that for the Expansion, because they feel like the proposed 130-ish DPS is a bit too much for mere level 60s.

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We killed Nefarian in a 40man pug on our server staghelm, wiped first 2 tries we got him the 3rd try :D. This is the PuG record on our server :)

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Blessing of wisdom stacking ftw. And let's not forget BoS, an ability being look at right now for being too good.

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We, Drama on Shattered Hand, dropped him again last night for a rogue bonanza.

2 bloodfang bps and an agi/sta ring.

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To calrify an answer for you, Lord Victor Nefarian aka Blackwing, is the the son of Deathwing, the current leader of the Black Dragonflight, though is also rumored to be dead, it is unsure.

Lady Katryn Prestor, aka Onyxia, is the daughter of Deathwing.

Thereby, Onyxia and Blackwing are siblings. And measuring up their relative power, Onyxia would be the younger of the two.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

hmm the 3rd horde US guild took Neferian down about 2-3 weeks ago on laughing skull

if anyone wants to know the guild name its banana boyz

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Defian, you nub!

Nefarian is son of Deathwing/Neltharion. And Onyxia is Nefarian's sister.

Btw Defian, your profile needs serious updating, you're still a trial and wearing greens!

Edited, Thu Jan 12 15:58:01 2006

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Hunter weapon...

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Who killed him? Wich server? wich country? ^^

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how many pg serve in order to kill Nefarian?

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Loot from Nefarian Lifetime:
Head of Nefarian
Breastplate of Wrath
Ashkandi, Greatsword of the Brotherhood

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Edited, Wed Dec 7 17:38:27 2005

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this dude my friends, have the MOST AWESOME LOOT IN TEH GAME.

nefarius= teh gay

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Yeah... Wow.
Well, I'm gonna say this: Warrior please. Screw Paladins!

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Paladin with full Tier2 is a HOLY PALADIN YOU RETARDS OFC YOU CAN KILL HIM !
Face a Retri/prot paladin with TuF who knows what he is doing and YOU CANT KILL HIM tards. THE BEST CLASS FOR 1 VS 1 IS A PALADIN i dont #$%^ing care what you are thinking.
L2p

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Fact : Now that Nefarian is out (of human form) then some guild made it to second part of him now the real battle begins Nefarian in Dragon form is stronger than Onyxia,Ragnaros,and even Thunderaan all put toghether

Posibility: Nefarian's death might bring the first artifact in-game (Im not saying he drops it )

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Hes soo huge hes almost as tall as a molten giant!

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Such a fun fight back in the day. It was really revolutionary in its difficulty level and the chaotic multi stage encounter compared to previous fights. Wiping didn't get much funner then when learning this encounter.

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