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Abilities:

* Impending Doom: AoE Magic De-buff much like call of the grave. 10 seconds to dispell everyone possible, or they receive an instant 2000~ damage.
* Lucifron's Curse: This curse will increase mana/rage/energy cost of all abilitys by 100%
* Lucifron's adds also have a spell called Dominate Mind, much like a Priest version of Mind Control. This can be dispelled by a Priest's dispel, but CANNOT be dispelled by a Paladin's cleanse since it only works on friendly targets. For Horde, Shamans are able to Purge this if a Priest is not able to.

Strategy:

Main tank will take position at the upper right side of the small spikes in the ground, with a small group of supporting casters who can decurse/dispel/heal and support the main tank till the two adds are taken care of. You should designate a mage to decurse all members of the Main Tanking party.

The two adds should be pulled by two Hunters with distract shot, followed up by two Warriors pulling agro from the hunters, and off tanking them back in the very very back of the cave. Priests should be dispelling the Dominate Mind, and have everyone focus fire on one add, take it down, then the next.

Once Lucifron's two adds are down the raid party should focus on Lucifron. All paladins and mages should be using the CTraid Auto-Decurse to remove the Impending Doom and Lucifron's Curse so that it does not affect the raid.

评论来自 97

I can also add that when the two hunters pull him the MT who is tanking Lucifron should NOT try to pull him off to the side using his ranged weapon, that has a chance to miss. Instead run up and start wailing on him, slowly moving him over to the side. That way there's less of a chance for Lucifron to charge blindly into the raid and kill everyone.

评论来自 3118

Avoid an early mind control: Try not to be the first person to aggro the pack (Lurcifron and friends). Also, do not create AoE aggro. Taunt Lucifron as he runs in. This will allow those with higher aggro on the gaurds to become mind controlled. It's better to not have Lucifron running around rampant.

评论来自 kazalfarah

With the recent decursive nerf, new guilds trying to take down luci will need to assign dispellers and decursers to certain groups to prevent being overwhelmed in debuffs.

评论来自 2199

Try to get the MT to have his back towards the raid, so that healers can be as far away from Luci as possible but still be able to heal MT. That way they won't get cursed or debuffed.

评论来自 9594

Key Needs of this battle: mages and priests for DEMAGIC
DECURSE
suggested that you get yourself a decursive mod if you are a mage or priest.

Keep ATLEAST one MAIN tank on lucifron, with one offtank for each guard.

DPS Guards first, and try to take them down asap.

As soon as guards go down, dps lucifron. Keep in mind that mages will not be doing full dps, but rather decursing, as well as priests with demagic and healing, however healing should be a priority on the main tank.

Enjoy gloves and boots =)

评论来自 Madrak

How much gold does Luci drop?

评论来自 Thottbot

main idea is to seperate him from the guard so his AOE debuff dont affect too many people at beginning. Cure debuff ASAP. You'll have to set up healing rotation to conserve mana. He's easy after a few tries.

评论来自 Thottbot

All groups need to have a priest/pally (to dispell) and a druid/mage (to decurse). This is essential.
1-2 tanks need to stay on Luci the whole fight. 2 healers need to heal the main tank the entire fight. Luci must be tanked up north away from the adds.

Phase 1:
His adds must be pulled far away from Lucifron to the south by the back of the cave. Kill these quick. They are not hard.

Phase 2:
Everyone attacks Lucifron when the adds are dead. This is where decrusing and dispelling are critical.
- Each mage/druid needs to remove curses from: Priests/druids, locks/mages/pallies, and warriors/rogues/hunters, in that order. His curse causes all spells/abilities to cost double.
- Each priest needs to dispell the Impending Doom (2000 shadow damage in 10s) on everyone in their party: Themselves, followed by tanks, followed by locks/mages, then finally rogues and hunters.

Encourage all raid members to bandage as needed. Priests will be using the bulk of their cooldowns dispelling, as will the druids.

Other notes: All warriors: use intimidating shout right away to activate the cooldown. The adds will mind control you, fear your party, and pull the imps from the adjacent cave. Mind control is easily dispellable and it priority 1 in phase 1.

评论来自 Thottbot

LUCIFRON does NOT drop the Might pauldrons andymore.

评论来自 Thottbot

Lucifron is an important first kill for most guilds. If you can bring him down you can bring down most others. Classes have to learn their rolls really quickly in MC if they have a chance of surviving. ie:

Pallies - priests with armor. Cleansebots and heal bots. No DPS.
Mages - Decurses, slow steady DPS
Warriors - tanks. No DPS, no MS, no fury, pure defense.
Druids - Decursers and innervates
Locks - largely independent DPSers
Priests - magic dispellers. MT healers.
Rogues - slow steady DPS, completly dependent on bandages and pots for heals.
Hunters - slow steady DPS, completly dependent on bandages and pots for heals.

Soon as you figure that out Lucifron is easy.

评论来自 Thottbot

Hi, we took him down a few times now, we got up to sulfuron in 3 weeks... here we come majordomo.

Its simply about how good you are at tactics and exectuting them. go look up some guides, not posting them as its supposed to be a challenge.

as for the previous poster, little tip, keep removing the fear at mag, we took him down with 4 tranq hunters and no dwarf priest last raid. as long as you can keep him under control and keep the MT1 central things will work out just fine (5 min and he was down btw)

-kontaap

评论来自 Thottbot

We've been running MC since July and I've learned a few things. I wrote a mage walkthrough for it and posted it on my blog along with one for all classes that my GL wrote. Hope this helps!

http://www.warcraftexperience.com

评论来自 Thottbot

It's important for the decursers to have CTRA installed. And, set it to "show debuffs" in the options menu. It makes an easy job of decursing, provided you have enough dispelling/decursing classes, but I don't see having not enough specific classes as being a problem.

评论来自 Thottbot

After killing the guards, it is a good idea to get rid of Lucifron's mana. He is immune to drain mana, so the best way to do this is to stay away a bit and let the Main Tank keep the aggro. When Lucifron finally is OOM all can attack. He will still manage to do the AoE now and then, however.

A strong guild can usually kill Lucifron all-out (after the guards), instead of waiting for his mana top drain.

评论来自 Thottbot

thats why u master loot dumbass

评论来自 Thottbot

He got like 150 k hp just nuke the adds first then lucifron. if mage and priest dont dispell u can just write ./kill ..

评论来自 Thottbot

my guild found cenarion belt on him why isent that on?

评论来自 Thottbot

remember to loot his guards always, they have a chance to drop the epic boes as well!

评论来自 Thottbot

My Guild killed this yesterdday. Our tactics was to put 3-4 healers on MT (2 druids and 2 priest). Let the 4 healers only consentrate on MT.

Then u need 2 more tanks, and put 3 healers to heal those 2 tanks that kill the bossgards. Pull it to bottom of cave, and kill this fast.

Now remember to decurse. all cloth users must be decursed. ( Downloade Decursive from curse-gaming)

When gards are dead, all NUKE Boss. Continue to Decurse.

We did this without some dead in raid. Holt MT alive ( maby 3-4 healers only on him) then u will make it.

MT dead=all dead

评论来自 Thottbot

Restorative potions should remove both curse and magic. There's a 2min cooldown, but this should help both priests and mages.

评论来自 Thottbot

just got my boots off this badboy, most the time in this fight im removing impending doom with tanks as top priority then healers if i get time, global cooldown sucks, didnt help raid only had 2 paladins.

now got shoulders bracers and boots for set bonus :D

评论来自 Allakhazam

we had a glitch on lucifron last saturday, had him at 50% and he went evade on us and returned to 100% health :( really annoying boss with no rogue drops.................bummer

评论来自 Allakhazam

This fight is vry easy! Our goild killed him with 34 people and only 3 deaths at the end! He dropped: Felheart Gloves and Cenarion Boots. There were only 2 druids in the run one rolled 1 other 2! Of course he dropped the Tranq shot spell our GM took it. It was first try and we are looking forward to Magmadar.

评论来自 Allakhazam

The timer on Lucifron is 8 hours - not 6 days

6 Days the the timer for the zone, after the 6 days are up, EVERYTHING has respwaned and you can join another raid group

评论来自 Allakhazam

His evade bug is really annoying. I think its something to do with pulling him back into the corner of his chamber area.

Some people get up on the walls and rocks.

Had it happed on Luci and on his two cronies

评论来自 Allakhazam

Must say i'm pretty happy now! We've just downed him :D! loot : Gauntlets of Might and Cenarion Boots and Tome of Tranquilizing Shot and Essence of Fire!
Hopefully we'll get further into MC =) wish us good luck!

评论来自 Allakhazam

Today at approximately 3:30p.m Momento Mori and The Reckoning downed Luci today, only our second run, we had a group of around 30-35. I got my gauntlets of might! woot gave me a much needed replacement to my Gauntlets of Hakoo. lol.

ANyway GRATZ MM AND TR

评论来自 Allakhazam

The PHC raid (proudmoore horde co-operative) got him on the 5th attempt tonight (first night in MC), we found him very difficult but this may have been due to only having 13 healers and a very inexperienced raid.

Basic strategy is to pull the adds into the back of the cave and have HIM up in the corner where the first core hound pack spawned and the healers all at maximum healing range.

You have shamans healing the tanks for the adds, and that seemed to work well for us!

评论来自 Allakhazam

Lucifron is a 6 day timer for us. Looks like you ran into a glitch.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Took him down with 33 members, got up to him 2 days before with 25.
http://www.officialmonkeyfish.net/dawn/

评论来自 Allakhazam

The strategies below are pretty good. Some further details:

Curse of Impending Doom

This does 2000 shadow damage after 10 seconds. He does it every 25 seconds. Bandaging and potions can't keep up with this kind of damage. The range is roughly 40 yards. This is a magic debuff and can be removed by priests and paladins. Shadow resistance helps, naturally.

Keep Lucifron tanked up the hill. Everyone but the main tank, off tank and their priests should run away from him 20 seconds after the last Impending Doom. Run back after he does it.

Lucifron should stay at the top of the hill with a tank and his healers. The main body of the raid should stay down in the alcove. If the main tank dies or loses aggro, Lucifron will run down the hill to the main body of the raid, throw Impending Doom on everyone, and wipe the raid. So, don't let that happen.

Lucifron's Curse

This doubles the mana/rage/energy costs of all abilities for five minutes. It's is a curse-based debuff and can be removed by mages and druids. This is an AoE debuff with a range of about 30 yards.

Dedicate two or three mages to removing this from themselves and from healers, or they will quickly run out of mana. Hunters, mages, and warlocks should simply stay out of range.

Shadow Strike

In addition to his regular melee attack and the AoE debuffs, Lucifron also has a melee-range shadow attack that hits his main target for considerable damage. Be prepared to heal through it. Tanks should wear shadow resistance for this fight. The darkrune gear is good.

评论来自 Allakhazam

We downed him yesterday, in our 5th try, not too difficult, just need some practising. Dropped Felheart Gloves, Earthfury Boots, and Tome of Tranquilizing Shot. It was our first kill. :)
The most important is to keep the MT and Off Tanks decursed, and mages keep decurse the DDs. After the two adds down concentrate on Luci and some non-important in killing luci (for example me who tanks the one add) bandage the ranged DDs.

Edited, Tue Feb 7 13:25:15 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

Luci is easy, just kill adds, decurse and dispell like fukc like hell then pwn away on luci, and a bit more dispell and decurse then the last pwn and he is dead gratz epixx 4 u!

"
Score: Decent

Must say i'm pretty happy now! We've just downed him :D! loot : Gauntlets of Might and Cenarion Boots and Tome of Tranquilizing Shot and Essence of Fire!
Hopefully we'll get further into MC =) wish us good luck! "

GL m8

评论来自 Allakhazam

downed him and everyone else in MC in one night =D
even tho were on nef and we had one night to do MC

评论来自 Allakhazam

its so messed up that there is NOTHING for rogues here. all i can get is the enchanting formula and the tailoring pattern. the tailoring pattern id do anything for however (i have 172 tailoring patterns! im working for all of them, even things that make BoP)

Blizzard should change luci's drops to include rogue gear for sure

My guild tried MC for the first time a few days ago, didnt get up to luci, but we should be able to next time (we are trying on friday). to find out that even if we do kill him that I have almost a 0% chance to get anything is really discouraging :( we should be able to get up to luci at least next time, we started really slow (first time for almost every1) and we started to get good at it later on. hopefully we can do it!

评论来自 Allakhazam

Luci is very easy , U dont need 40 man for killing him .. Me and my guild have done it with 20 man + , I have been in MC months now and i dont got any epic yet and i dont need it .. But i want!

评论来自 Allakhazam

Luci is easy.. we did him with 35 ppl with no deaths.. /flex :) Felheart and arcanist dropped along with tranq tome..

Edited, Thu Apr 20 03:44:07 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

well...

We have some experienced MC'runners in our new raid community... and we did it with 29 :)

评论来自 Allakhazam

My guild Stureplan on stormscale horde side got him down on our 2nd run to MC last night. Earthfury Boots and robe of volatile power dropped. He's not a hard boss just kill the guards and have a 5-man group take on lucifron.
When the guards are down you just go take down luci. But if you gonna kill him Decursive is a must. He does a curse and a magic thing. So just hit that decurse button like crazy.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Since tranq shot is a BOP tome, I would like to do Luci to get it. Anyone done it with a small group of high 60's - 70 people? How small a group can you do it with?

评论来自 Allakhazam

Since my guild started raidn MC i have won Heavy Dark Iron Ring x2,Gauntlets of Might, and the Core Marksmans Rifle and Force Reactive Disk schematics those r the only good warrior loot :P

评论来自 Allakhazam

My guild got him down this weekend for the first time after 2 other tries on other days. We were very exited
He dropped :

Gauntlets of Might
Choker of Enlightment
Tome of tranquilizing shot

评论来自 Allakhazam

Luci is very easy , U dont need 40 man for killing him .. Me and my guild have done it with 20 man + , I have been in MC months now and i dont got any epic yet and i dont need it .. But i want!

评论来自 Allakhazam

funniest story as hell to tell here!
(hey that rymthes)

ok so i got in a guild MC that was like 4 people sort right, my buddy told me that the guild isnt good and he said i shouldnt go, but i didnt think there was anything wrong i mean what could happen right? so anyways we started of very very slow the first mob took like 20mins before we got rdy, but i was like hey at least they take there time , im sure this will go smooth, so anyways we kept going and it went pretty smooth but very slow we had a few people die because he/she pulled agro like a moron so im like this is cool, so then we make it here to luci and im like awesome i hope Sorcerous Dagger drops for me, so we start and it was going pretty good his guards were down, so we head over and start burning him down and people start dieing , and shes at 1/2 health and like 12 people dead, we keep going, 1/3 health and we have 28 dead so we keep going, 12.5% health and full wipe, we were all pretty mad, but we get rezzed and we rebuff and such and were like ok, this time for sure, so we go again and this one started bad people didnt seem to kno what they were fighting and it went down to hell quick, 25.7% health and full wipe, so we rez and rebuff and were like, OK! this time for sure! so this one i though could accually make it so we are going, burn down guards and we start fighting him , he has like 20% health and 1 dead so we kno we can do it this time, then some1 pulls core hounds in front of him! so we get going and we dont give up and we are dpsing and fighting like crazy! full wipe, he had 0.2% health left! about 2001 health! so some1 finally said "OK this is over" and i said "that was the worst MC ever!" and ever1 is like "you garbage!"

so we didnt even down luci, wanna kno how long it took? 5:13

yeah , true story btw

评论来自 Allakhazam

definately easy boss, just pull adds down into the grotto and keep luci far away... we even got him once where one of his adds regenerated to 100% from 3% because someone was standing up on a ledge... once the adds are down it's just a matter of saving mana

评论来自 Allakhazam

My guild downed this guy last night. Dropped Arcanist Boots and Wristguards of Stability.

评论来自 Allakhazam

NOTE: This is a beginner's guide to Luci. People that have experience killing him can figure out what works for them.

This guy is by far the easiest boss in MC. He has a few minor complications, but with a little practice any group can get over those complications and down Luci.

Luci's Moves -

The main move you have to worry about is Luci's curse. It's a shadow damage curse that will do 2000 dmg after 8 or 10 seconds. If your mages and druids have decursive, then you shouldn't have a problem getting rid of this in 3 seconds. You will need at least 5 decursers though (this includes druids and mages)

Luci's Adds -

These guys are pretty easy. They don't have any major moves to speak of, just make sure not to take aggro from your tank on them.

The positioning for the pull -

Everyone should be against the back wall of the inlet on the right as you exit the Imp Cave. The Imps and Elementals in there respawn very quickly, so once you get through the cave get out of it as soon as possible, and into the inlet on the right. You will have to clear the first pack of dogs you see once you are facing Luci, otherwise you will pull that full pack along with Luci, and you don't want that.

EVERYONE in your raid should be lined up against the back wall except for your 3 pulling groups (which I'll describe next).

The 3 pulling groups should be lined up together at the top of the inlet, right beside the big rock jutting out of the ground.

The Groups -

Group 1 - This is your Main Tank group. You will want your MT (def spec warrior), a main healer (priest or druid), 2 off healers (druids and/or paladins), a hunter, and a decurser (mage or druid). If you have a really good group you can get away with just a main healer and 2 off healers, one being a druid to decurse...if you haven't downed him 3 or more times though, I wouldn't try that, just have a dedicated decurser.

Group 2 - This is an Add tank group. You'll need an off tank (warrior), a main healer (priest or druid), 2 off healers, a decurser, and a hunter. You will only need the decurser for this guy at the very beginning.

Group 3 - The exact same as group 2.

The rest - The rest should stay along the very back wall until all adds are down.

The Pull -

The pull is pretty easy. You will have your 3 hunters (or whoever is doing the pull for you) get ready in front of their tanks, lined up by the big rock. The MT puller will go up and grab Lucy, pull him back to the group, and the off tank pullers will immediately pull their adds off. If your MT has to take on both adds and Luci then you will have a dead MT very quickly.

The warriors immediately taunt and attack their add or Luci, and your hunters Feign Death. Luci should be pulled back around the corner away from the inlet all the rest of your players are in. The only people in that area should be the MT and his group, minus the hunter. All the MT's healers should remember to stay in sight of the MT. If they loose sight of the MT then he dies.

The Fight -

The Add tanks should pull their adds all the way back to the wall, where all the rest of your raid is waiting to nail these guys. The entire raid should concentrate on one add at a time. DO NOT TRY TO KILL BOTH AT ONCE IF YOU HAVEN'T DEALT WITH THEM BEFORE! After the group 2 off tank has 5 sunders on his add everyone attack Group 2's add. Kill it. Move on to Group 3's add, and Kill it. Remember, during this process STAY AWAY FROM THE CAVE! As Group 2's add dies all group 2 healers should shift to the Main Tank. As Group 3's add dies the entire raid should shift to Luci.

Now, healers...DO NOT GET TO CLOSE TO THE FIGHT! The Main tank should pull Luci a little closer to the group, but not much...just move him in 10 yds or so. With that done all the healers can stay the max range away from the MT to still be able to heal (40 yds), and they wont get cursed. This saves your decursers mana, and keeps your healers alive. All decursers are going to have to stay within curse range, as well as DPS, but that's ok.

The rest is easy. DPS keeps up on hammering Luci, the decursers keep the curse off their raid, and the MT keeps aggro. To help the MT keep aggro rogues should feint A LOT, and mages that have arcane subtlety should be using arcane missles. Mages that aren't in the arcane tree, or just don't have arcane subtlety should try to keep their DPS moderate. If the MT looses aggro you might be in trouble. Just as a precaution, my guild usually leaves one off tank back to snag aggro just in case a mage or hunter gets over zealous with their DPS ;)

This guy really isn't all that hard. Just keep trying. My guild has downed this guy with 29 pretty easily. We haven't tried with less just because we don't care to bother with that, and because people want DKP, but I'm fairly positive we could kill him with fewer.

Edited, Fri Feb 10 09:40:30 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

Lucifron's Abilities

Lucifron has several abilities that he uses in the fight. They are as follows:

Impending Doom: This is a 2000 point shadow damage DoT. The damage is all done at the end of the 10 second timer not spread out over the 10 seconds. So you should get a priest to remove it quickly and you wont take any damage.

Area Effect Curse: Doubles the cost of abilities before talents are considered. Mage/Druid should remove.

Strategy

Pull the two guards to the back/south of the cave. Tank + healers occupy Lucifron while guards are taken down.

The guards can mind control, be ready to dispel the mind controlled player. If a warrior is controlled, intimidating shout will be used and will cause problems. Counter this by using intimidating shout as the fight begins to activate the cool down. The guards can be killed quickly.

Tank party: This will be a tank and priest/druids. They will keep the curses and Impending Doom off their party while healing the tank. The healers need to work out a rotation beforehand. This party's ONLY duty is to stay alive so Lucifron is tanked.

Once the guards are dead, the raid will focus on Lucifron. Priest primary duty will be busy keeping Impending Doom off party members, so use a bandage when you can. Druids primary duty will be curse removal, healing secondary; combat rez if needed (tank party/healers most important, then curse removers).

Most important to de-curse / dispel: Priest/Druid/Tank Secondary de-curse / dispel targets: Paladin/Mage/Warlock Least important: Warrior/Rogue/Hunter

The rest of the party will be attacking Lucifron. Hate control is important, and use of bandages is important - the healers will be busy. If mana becomes low, healers should focus on removing curses from themselves, keeping the tank alive, and allowing the curse to remain on the non healing, non tanking raid members. Impending Doom MUST be removed from any raid member though. The non-healing, non-tanking raid members can wand / auto attack in the worst case.

A complete guide to Molten Core, strategies, secrets, exploits and more, can be found here

Edited, Tue Feb 14 07:31:04 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

i had no trouble killing him/her(it was hard but we killed him/her second time we tried).we had a lot of preists healing the warriors and pallys, mages and locks stayed behind and blasted them, druids turn moonkin and kick but, rogues were saping and backstabbing, shaman were going wacko with totems, and hunters sent their pet and lobbed arcane shot and ranged attacks like that. SO on the second try 19-30(i lost count) died. oh ya and shamens and priests were rezing the dead.BUT luckey me he dropped felheart gloves :) i love my warlock now. all i need is the belt and the robes:(.

评论来自 Allakhazam

We killed him twice in one day. The first time he dropped the Pauldrons of Might, Tranq Shot and I think something else that I cant remember. The second time he only dropped some silver. Highly annoying to say the least. A Blizzard GM messaged our guild leader and admitted that they were aware what had happened to our raid but could do nothing to compensate us. Crappy if you ask me.

I've heard that there is an 8-hour respawn timer for Lucifron. It was supprising to see that he had respawned only 2 hours after we initially killed him. The instance must have been glitched in some way which is why we didnt receive any loot on the second kill. Anybody else have similar problems in MC?

评论来自 Allakhazam

We tried 3 times the best is -35%

评论来自 Allakhazam

On my very first MC run I was charmed and dragged back to Lucifron's spawn point after a wipe. After charm broke I hit vanish as fast as I could and survived the wipe =D.

评论来自 Allakhazam

our guild downed him last night, first attmept in MC and 2nd attempt on luci, would have downed luci first try, but noob hunter pulled all the imps in the little cave. dropped arcanist boots, tranq shot book, and felheart gloves ( which now belong to me )

评论来自 Allakhazam

our guild needs to work on it because we had a 40 man raid agaisnt lucy and we only got her to 30% so we really really need to work on it we had no druid thou but we had 5 tanks 3 priests 5 hunters alot of rogues and shamans and such but i dont kno why it is so hard

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