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评论来自
mbulmer
This was one of the best 2H axes in the game in vanilla, especially for PvP, due to the unique proc. It's a pretty rare drop from C'Thun, but it's worth going all the way to get it.
For PvE,
断离
was a good alternative, and was much easier to obtain than this (drops from Patchwerk, the first boss in the Abomination wing in Naxx).
EDIT: Yes, obviously it isn't the best in the game anymore, so I've updated this post to reflect that fact. No need to downvote it because it was posted 5 years ago. :)
评论来自
6812
The eye does indeed blink and look around making this a very cool looking weapon. What makes the procc truly devastating is that it does not break on damage, so it can help to end duels or pvp fights very quickly.
评论来自
6995
Somebody on my server got it, its probably the sweetest axe lol...off C'thun and great for warriors, i would love to see an enhancement shaman with it tho :)
评论来自
stkguard
This is a really nice weapon if your a warrior its better then the rank 14 weapons. This is uncommon so if you have this everyone will notice :)
评论来自
Thottbot
drops off C'Thun has a pretty low drop rate i really want this weapon its so bad ass for a Arms, spec'd warrior :D
评论来自
Thottbot
I hear hunters on my server talking about how perfect of a weapon it would be for a hunter...now im like that is such a warrior weapon any hunter who thinks their gonna get this over a warrior just because it has agi needs to be shot...and it would be better in a pallies hands than a hunter...
评论来自
Thottbot
I know I'll be flamed for this at least 500 times, but this is thottbott, is it not? Totally expected and unoriginal.
I think that a shaman could utilize this greatly. I mean, imagine windfuries with this. A three crit?
评论来自
Thottbot
u get it from C'Thun the last boss of AQ40
its only a drop
评论来自
Thottbot
Might of Menethil:
289-435 dmg 3.80 speed
95.3 DPS +20 Strength +46 Stamina
Equip: Improves your chance to get a critical strike by 2%
you can see the preview pic here
http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?media_id=3598384&article;_id=707846&channel;_id=261&page;_title=More+WoW+Shots+for+the+Addicts&adtag;=network%3Dign%26size%3D468x60%26channel%3Dve3d%26site%3Dve
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评论来自
Thottbot
if a hunter is dumb enough to take this then they dont belong in a high end guild farming c'thun. theres alot of better items. if you want it to screw around with and swing a few times in pvp against those annoying casters trying to abuse the hunter dead zone fine...but only if its gonna be sharded if a hunter doesnt take it.
评论来自
Thottbot
On my server most Grand Marshall Warrior either use Claymore (2h sword) or they are duel wielding with bloodthirst spec. I know a Paladin who has it and when I said "thats the best paladins weapon according to wowwiki, he smiled.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Dark_Edge_of_Insanity
That proc is mostly PvP you ask me (I bet it doesn't proc on C'thun) :)
评论来自
Thottbot
lol the eye blinks, omfg its creepy crazy insane
评论来自
Thottbot
here is a list of who this is for.
1. warrior
2. warrior
3. paladin/shaman
4. hunter
评论来自
Thottbot
Well im not a warrior my main is s druid but i do have an alt 60warrior i play more now with his gear is nice with full field marshall gear and unstoppable force so i know wut im talking about. sure it could be used by a shammy or hunter but that would be a waste of loot imo. A MS warrior with that weapon would be godly busing out some high crits and sick dps. it would be great high and dmg for a warrior the pain they would bring to an enemy would hurt even more so to a clothie.
评论来自
Thottbot
This is a weapon that should be reserved for warriors first, Shaman/Paladins second, than Hunters.
Any hunters that say they should get first dibs (unless the warrior won a roll on something as good as Mace of Menethil that is), those hunters should go shoot themselves.
评论来自
Thottbot
As a 60 paladin i would love this axe but i would pass it to a warrior before me always they need it before me but if no warrs wanted it i would definetley get it we have downed C'thun twice and two times a warr got it but im next on the list :)
评论来自
Thottbot
If you have the Weapon on your back, where is the eye ? does it look from your back, behinde you, or is it "on" your back, so nobody could see it ?
评论来自
Thottbot
That @#$% is an axe specced warriors wet dream. Charge into a group, zerker stance, WW. Watch a 4 digit number hit everyone around you and watch them all scatter like they're engaging a core hound with that disorient stomp.
^_^
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm an ally warrior, and this weapon is sick as hell.. seriously..got a 2200 white crit on a warlock yesterday while testing it in Epl.. cant get enough of it :D upgraded it from bonereavers edge.
The proc itself doesnt break of any dmg caused, so thats pretty nice for us warrs. its uber whenever it procs, especially vs rogues/casters.
And yeah, a paladin/shaman should also have rights to bid on this one IF its an upgrade both PVP/PVE wise, AND intending to use it alot.
评论来自
Thottbot
Warrior retri pala
i think since low drop rate and that good wep,
pallas warriors is the only clas to get
评论来自
Thottbot
This Axe's eye blinks. Either this is true or my model viewer is screwed up.
评论来自
Thottbot
the book can also be .... a hat ^^
评论来自
Thottbot
haha looks like somthing u would see in soul calibur
评论来自
Thottbot
this looks like an axe version of nightmare's souledge from soulcalibur II. lol with the eye and all. oh well. just wanted to add my comments! its a very nice axe!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Congrats to Immortality for getting this :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
I would be ashamed to post my own pictures wearing that weapon and some wrath crap on :p
"im warrior i need this and i take it since i have teh points lollol" -> gg 10% crit, 800ap -> joke of the server. Hopefully you actually have some other gears to back this baby up. Otherwise you just wasted the best item currently in the game.
Edited, Thu Apr 27 10:15:30 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is a Hunter Weapon.
This is a Warrior Weapon.
This is a Paladin Weapon.
This is a Shaman Weapon.
This is the best two-hand weapon for any class that can use two-handed axes.
Quit griping about "who it belongs to." It's for everyone that can use it. If a hunter wants to spend his/her DKP to get it, let 'em. Chances are if your guild is capable of getting it, they can get it again.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have to say, this should go to MS warriors first and foremost, as they'll make the most use of it. Enhancement shammies/pallies afterwards, and then hunters last. Not because I'm against any of those classes, just warriors will make more use of it, I feel.
评论来自
Allakhazam
some one post a pic of this
评论来自
Allakhazam
lmao..
ur just talkin *!@#.
first of all.. 3500 crits with TuF? lol! execute-crit, maybe, but u can do that high execute with a grey lvl 5 1h weapon.
next: MS-Warri owns Paladine. Comparable equip, comparable skill, paladine looses.
the last and most important thing: Palas don't have to do dmg during instances! They're a support-class! and if they wanna do dmg, and they are GOOD paladines, they do dmg with spellpower. thats a fact. to say they only can do dmg with 2h weapons is simply wrong!
to be earnest.. how should warriors do ->dmg<- with 1h+shield? I dunno how.
we have to take a thick 2h (like DEoI) oder 2 wicked 1h weapons (where the rogues start to cry, when we spend our dkp on those).
this is definetly a warrior weapon.
maybe shamans, but not paladine.
i got a 60 rogue, 60 warrior and even a paladine, so i know what I'm talking 'bout, so get the hell outta here with your damn stupid comments.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just to spool everyone up again - with the RAP hunter nerf (kiss your 2RAP-1AGI goodbye, 1to1 now) coming in Burning Crusade Hunters are going to be after high DPS melee weapons even more... like this one :D
and ... FIGHT!
评论来自
Allakhazam
When will the dps-buffing stop? How about giving more stamina to make fights last abit longer? Gah.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Are slow weapons a thing of the past? it seems like every new 2h is 3.4-3.6 spd. A weapon's hits grow in dmg proportionately to its speed and the characters atack power, the speed is a base and the slower or in terms of math larger the base the more damage that can be achieved through AP. Yet every new super high dps weapon is relatively fast, is blizz trying to limit ppl from getting insane top end dmg by nerfing the item's potential?
This is a nice weapon indeed, the stats are amazing and it is without doubt the weapon with the second highest damage potential, after Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros. The Maxdmg and weaponproc of Sulfuras is outstanding, and is why it is still better than any other weapon.
沙漠掠夺者之刺
polearm even though is probably the best Hunter weapon would surpass this axe in top dmg after roughly 150ap, ie Barb of the Sand Reaver at 1200AP > Dark Edge of Insanity at 1000AP
Edited, Sat May 6 06:54:09 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
you must be taking the piss, 2500, i crit more than that with Arcanite reaper!
:)
评论来自
Allakhazam
only idiots give this to a paladin over a warrior
评论来自
Allakhazam
thats a pimp ass ax.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I don't see what all the commotion is about.. Why would a hunter ever want this axe when he can get Barb of the Sand Reaver from Fankriss instead, which has more than twice as much agility AND more stamina.
Barb of the Sand Reaver:
沙漠掠夺者之刺
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://xs307.xs.to/xs307/06416/Hunter_weapon.jpg
!
评论来自
Allakhazam
everybody shut up, this is ovbiously a priest wep!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Bobyftw. You on Ragnaros realm right? I can tell by the ally guild Amcitia?
评论来自
Allakhazam
well its definitly a shaman weapon, all warriors go 4 ashkandi (btw warriors suxx coxx) so u use u're greatsword of teh br0therhoOd and i use teh dark edge of ins4nty"!1111einseinself!111
btw ich hasse saft11111
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4316/darkedge6vj.jpg
评论来自
Allakhazam
Slangen shut the ......up allready ! NAB !
评论来自
Allakhazam
i'd say the proc on this weapon makes this clearly the best weapon. also the insane amount of stats and such :)
and yes, axe > swords any day.
评论来自
Allakhazam
My orc warrior has one and i own any thing and every thing in my way.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Paladin Weapon.
Discuss
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7589229664013764253&q=paradosi
all your base are belong to george? yeah.. gg
评论来自
Allakhazam
this is a weapon for everyone that can use it, and whant to make REAL dmg. Yes i would deliver it first to a warrior or shamman.
评论来自
Allakhazam
pallies/hunters/warriors!
This is a great pvp weapon for a hunter who knows his $%^&. Glimpse of madness gives you time to get range, and the raptor strikes with this weapon get really out of hand.
If a hunter is willing to drop a ton of dkp on this probably means that he pvps alot and will probably put it to good use.
Ive had a fair share of pallies knock my socks of with this weapon too. ;p
Its just as awesome for warriors, but so are the r14 weapons, severance, and the ashbrinegr. :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
Apparently it procs 5% of the time and damage doesn't break it
评论来自
Allakhazam
Elsymir on Shadow Council got this tonight at 8:30.
Looks good with crusader enchant
Edited, Thu Apr 27 22:00:47 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
Another view of it.
The eye frequently opens up and closes, looking around when it's open.
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/upload5/Fimpina.jpg
need I say more?
Edited, Sat May 13 04:42:54 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
this axe has a moving eye on it ^^
评论来自
Allakhazam
I really must say, claiming that Sulfaras is better than this weapon is simple folly! the only reason someone would believe that is because Sulfaras is Legendary, not better by any means. Sulfaras is a lvl 80 weapon, while as this is a lvl 84 weapon. The stats speak for themselves of course and in comparison, this weapon should be Legendary or even Artifact in comparison to Sulfaras.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Every damn 2h axe or 2h mace always emiddietly goes to a warrior!
评论来自
Allakhazam
i fing that 2 hand is better in most situ ations not over time dps but burst and i cary a big axe and talk quitly so i need 2hand i would feel laughed at if i was told to butter toast with a dagger
评论来自
Allakhazam
As requested:
http://i3.tinypic.com/wlw1gx.jpg
doesn't look that great imo, stats rock tho.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Omg, it has agility!
Hunterweapon!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just for you who haven't seen it yet to get a view at the other side of it, which is a little more unique-looking.
The eye in the center there opens up and closes frequently and also looks around now and then.
Quite scary riding around on your mount having your very own axe looking you in the eyes from your back :p
评论来自
Allakhazam
actually they DID nerf it, before its speed was 3.7 ...
评论来自
Allakhazam
Quoted from below:
"Sword spec > Axe spec for PvP.
Let's take hamstring, one of the most spammed ability in PvP. With axe spec, you have a 5% higher chance to do ~100 damage instead of 45. With sword spec, you have a 5% chance to basically get a free swing for just 10 rage.
Am I saying that warriors shouldn't use this weapon? Of course not. But if you look at all the variables, from a PvP standpoint this might not be the absolute best weapon for a warrior."
_____________________________________________
You're looking at only one side of the argument. Another side is as thus:
5% more crit instead of 5% chance to get an extra attack = 5% more chance to crit SPELLS. A Mortal Strike crit, for example, will do more damage than a Mortal Strike hit and an addition normal hit from Sword Spec. This is firstly due to the fact that Mortal Strike hits for more than a normal hit, and thus 2x this hit is more than a single MS hit and normal hit. Secondly, +5% crit is friendly for all Warriors with the "Impale" talent which adds an additional +20% damage on Spell Criticals. The same goes for Whirlwind, Heroic Strike, Cleave, and so on. In the end, IMO, Axe Spec = Sword Spec in terms of how good it is - it's just different.
One advantage I foresee in returning to Axe spec is regulating DPS in raids. Sometimes you could get a triple proc, all crits, and pull aggro instantly. With more regulated DPS from +5% crit it will probably be easier to control aggro and maintain DPS.
For PvP? If you rely on Sword Spec procs to kill people then either rethink your tactics, gear or playing style. If it's just a nice thing to /flex /gloat about then really it's not much of an extra string to your bow...critting more on spells ftw IMO.
But then again, other people prefer Sword Spec, some people even prefer Mace Spec - it's just down to personal choice.
Edited, Tue May 2 22:40:08 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
Kinda waste to give it to a shaman who will only contribute with it in PvP... Give it to someone who can make the best use of it in pve :p
评论来自
Allakhazam
paladins go get Lok'Amir coz ur spelldmg>melee dmg.
~_^
评论来自
Allakhazam
Given for the 3rd time to a Paladin xD
Our warriors are either fury or Tanks, cause 2h is unfortunately to crappy as DPS for a warrior.
Oh, btw we are a pve guild.
评论来自
Allakhazam
got it for my pally, sweet as all hell.
perfect for pvp.
looks funny too. i love that eye! XD
评论来自
Allakhazam
Razkin in his wisdom said..
a girl died in 1933 by a homicidal murdere. He buried her in the ground while she was still aliv. The murderer chanted,"AMBUSH->BACKSTAB RULZ U" as he buried her. Now that you have read the chant, you will meet this little girl. In the middle of the night she will be on your ceilin. She will suffocate you like she was suffocate. If you post this, she will not bother yo. Your kindness will be rewarded with hawt ghost se
评论来自
Allakhazam
overpowered? :\
评论来自
Allakhazam
i got this on my shaman today. alota ppl were pissed since i alrdy had hand of rag. i got coz our guild uses the dkp bid system and my 3300 bid beat the second bid of 1000. im still gonna use my hand of rag every now and then coz every1 scatters away in wsg/ab and i can fight 1on1/2 but since u cant really see this from a distance i will b fightin like 1on7. its the same with my rank 13 set. every1 scatters when i use it but i do have crown of destruction, runed bloodstained hauberk, scaled sand reaver leggings etc. but i absolutely LOVE this weapon it f**kin OWNS.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Need
评论来自
Allakhazam
Somehow I got lucky enough to get the first one on my server (US Deathwing) for my warrior and I love it. I can't tell you how much fun I am having with it in pvp. It's a blast!
A couple notes about the proc:
1. I have never seen the proc, Glimpse of Madness, break on damage.
2. I think it can be resisted with shadow resists, but I haven't ever noticed that happening.
Edited, Wed May 10 17:01:39 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
First drop on my server went to a Paladin.
GG
评论来自
Allakhazam
HI!
What kind of unitframes do you use?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just for the record: If you are in a guild that downs C'thun(which none of you prolly are, except for a few) they would NOT give this to a damn shammy. This has Warrior priority all over it. I play horde so im not sure on pallies but i would think not.
评论来自
Allakhazam
congo rats
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just for you who haven't seen it yet to get a view at the other side of it, which is a little more unique-looking.
The eye in the center there opens up and closes frequently and also looks around now and then.
Quite scary riding around on your mount having your very own axe looking you in the eyes from your back :p
评论来自
Allakhazam
Shouldnt that be movement speed and not move speed? ;o
评论来自
Allakhazam
*pulls hair out and naws on his mouse chord* This is the best !#$% 2h weapon i've ever seen! I'd give anything in-game for this bad boy!
评论来自
Allakhazam
w000t imba !1
评论来自
Allakhazam
This thing...is A Fu(/(|/\/G MAZING! cant wait for the burning crusade to come out so i can start a SHamm and PWN. BC Druid just isnt cutting the mustard for me! SO EXCITED!
评论来自
Allakhazam
To all you nay sayers, paladins can do damage if specced and geared right, get a paladin Reck-bomb specced, give str / agi gear, and you're gonna get owned, paladin gets critted, doubles atk, and stacks like hell, say you sit back and let a warrior crit you 4 times, the paladin attacks once, warrior gets hit 5 times for 300 - 500 none crit dmg, and you say we cant do dmg? warriors please, you all tell us about your Execute dmg and how big it is, but that all depends on how much rage you got and if your target is below 20% health, yeah yeah you can finish people off fast with that sometimes, but you dont need a big 2H wep for it, i find in duels against warriors the ones who duel wield always do more damage than the ones with a 2H wep, you all should go duel wield and give the axes to palas, we can use them quite well ya see, so dont doubt pala strength..
P.S. The reason why you dont see many paladins doing dmg is because, well, in end game do we get DPS epic gear? no, warriors get it, and we're expected to do dmg with healing gear or spell dmg gear?, give us DPs gear and you will be surprised.
评论来自
Allakhazam
if u dont believe me
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=28321
评论来自
Allakhazam
Its a PURE PVP WEAPOn
NO ONE USES IT FOR PVE DAMAGE IF YOU ARE AT C'THUN.
So if warriors only uses it for pvp why shouldn't a shaman or a paladin be allowed to bid on it for pvp too?
Dunno if you are mature enough for what's about to come but:
SAME GOES FOR END OF DREAMS.
评论来自
Allakhazam
imageing raptor strike and wing clip with this in pvp , badass warriors will indeed drop like flies *drooooooooool*
but would not even try too use dkp on this before the warriors have it or something better and cryadin's have it :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
id just like to say to you pala haters that we can dps O_o i kick the !@#$ outa many guys.. im lesser geared than r14 ppl some times and still beat them into the ground.. this wont prove anything.. beleive what you want.. but stop dissing palas when you probably dont have one high enough to call it a retri pala (which i am).. ty and have a nice day.. etc prot sux
评论来自
Allakhazam
reminds me of Soul Edge ... :(
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7134/darkedgeofinsanity0qm.gif
Zomg!11
评论来自
Allakhazam
rogue weapon
评论来自
Allakhazam
Another view of it.
The eye frequently opens up and closes, looking around when it's open.
评论来自
Allakhazam
YOU PALLYS F**KIN SUCK ASS GO TO HELL
评论来自
Allakhazam
yep our MT on outland server from cult of the pumpkin guild got this
GRATZ SMOSHER
评论来自
Allakhazam
What can i say...it is hell of good wepon. It can be used for Warriors, Paladin, Shamans and if the hunter is crasy, then also hunter. Maybe its just me but think about it. Gives Str, Agi and Sta. All those class i just metionet can use those stas in the end. But cant say who would have 1 shot for this wepon.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Paladins who take this before a warrior /pity /spit die irl plx
评论来自
Allakhazam
2 people on Kargath server have this horde side. and let me tell ya ive been 1 shotted. as a warrior with 4.5k HP in fury gear. their badass. 2500 MS crits EASY.
评论来自
Allakhazam
To all you nay sayers, paladins can do damage if specced and geared right, get a paladin Reck-bomb specced, give str / agi gear, and you're gonna get owned, paladin gets critted, doubles atk, and stacks like hell, say you sit back and let a warrior crit you 4 times, the paladin attacks once, warrior gets hit 5 times for 300 - 500 none crit dmg, and you say we cant do dmg? warriors please, you all tell us about your Execute dmg and how big it is, but that all depends on how much rage you got and if your target is below 20% health, yeah yeah you can finish people off fast with that sometimes, but you dont need a big 2H wep for it, i find in duels against warriors the ones who duel wield always do more damage than the ones with a 2H wep, you all should go duel wield and give the axes to palas, we can use them quite well ya see, so dont doubt pala strength..
You obvously don't know the insane dps a good warrior can dish out... my twinked lvl 49 warrior whom I intend on grinding to high warlord with some day can probably kill a paladin my level in those 5 hits...
with 24% chance to crit and MS crits that reach about 850 (on plate with shield) not much can stop you at lvl 49...
Sure I would LOVE to see the windfuries with this on my main (enh shaman)
Sure I would LOVE to see this on my warrior some day
Sure I would LOVE to see my guild kill C'thun
Untill then its in my dreams and nowhere else :P yet if you see some level 70 shaman named Waztec running at you duel wielding Gladiator weapons... I think its time for you to learn how to run...
评论来自
Allakhazam
Enough is enough. All you horde can stop talking. First you can say ohh i can MS a paladin in = gear. WTF do you know about paladin gear? huh? First if hes in LB gear thats healing gear... not equal. If hes in Judgment thats hybrid stuff. If you want a really dps paladin hes got to be in avenger a DPS set and have other dps features.
Link to a paladin with this weapon in naxx:
This video was made for you horde. Also... yeah stfu 49 guy. its easy to talk. show us the gear. lol And if you are in High Warlord then fight a paladin in buff M/FM and GM weapons. And when you get him to 30% and the ms is up he will just bubble and heal on you then you can go QQ to blizzard that they arent fair even though you claim to kill them
评论来自
Allakhazam
Can some one please post a pic of this, and don't host it on imageshack but on
http://www.tinypic.com
so it won't be removed/blocked cause of the high bandwith load. Thanks in advance.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just for you who haven't seen it yet to get a view at the other side of it, which is a little more unique-looking.
The eye in the center there opens up and closes frequently and also looks around now and then.
Quite scary riding around on your mount having your very own axe looking you in the eyes from your back :p
评论来自
Allakhazam
Sword spec > Axe spec for PvP.
Let's take hamstring, one of the most spammed ability in PvP. With axe spec, you have a 5% higher chance to do ~100 damage instead of 45. With sword spec, you have a 5% chance to basically get a free swing for just 10 rage.
Am I saying that warriors shouldn't use this weapon? Of course not. But if you look at all the variables, from a PvP standpoint this might not be the absolute best weapon for a warrior.
L2P plz
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://www.shinasu.net/images/gallery/common/Sion_sion-w-dark.jpg
评论来自
Allakhazam
wtf....nerfed >>><<<
used to be 3.7 speed...now its just a sidegrade from my ashkandi...lame...
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ultimate pvp weapon!
but why are u guys complaining about the speed?
since 1.8 instant attacks are calculated with 3.3 attack speed(2h)
all what matters is dps, and not the speed
the only thing where speed matters is overpower
stats: 35str = 5 additional dps (86.6+5=
91.6
)
19agi = 0.95 crit
thats so fuc*ing insane!
btw truely imba proc
ps: first 90 dps weapon in game^^
评论来自
Allakhazam
Another view of it.
The eye frequently opens up and closes, looking around when it's open.
评论来自
Allakhazam
theres 3 people on my realm with it 2 warriors and for some odd reason a paladin and all 3 of them r friends who triple team in PvP and they r pure power it only takes one of tem to kill my rogue and when its 3 on 1 against a full epic rogue and i get 1 shoted (if im lucky 2 shot =P ) its really not a fair fight
评论来自
Allakhazam
The thing about pallies not doing significant damage with a twohander, does reckoning say you something, you can get to 25 points in protection without sacrificing points on shield improvements, lets say he's fighting a rogue and that a crit comes every 3 secs = double damage perhaps even more if using a slow two-hander
评论来自
Allakhazam
High Warlord's Battle Axe > This Piece of Junk
lern2wepnchan and all that good stuff, <3
评论来自
Allakhazam
hamsting is usually most spammed attack in pvp when facing battle stance warior and with that axe you got a point probably best 2H axe in the game mainly for warriors.....BTW i'm fury spec
Lvl 50 NE warrior *aggramar
评论来自
Allakhazam
*!@#$%^ wpn! end of story
16 agil ftw.
kkthxbye
/sacrasm-ofc
评论来自
Allakhazam
They nrfed death's sting , but not the axe. &*!@ off blizz !
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got pwned by this in Arathi Basin. That did hurt alot.
评论来自
Allakhazam
some people PREFER axes or maces over swords, regardless of which scales better damage wise.
评论来自
Allakhazam
The only reason people want slow weapons is because you get the full amount of DPS from strength if the weapon is 3.5 speed or slower so this weapon still qualifies as all the + strength and attack power of all your gear up to the fullest.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Im confused, why do you compare this to Sulfuras, and call sulf "the best weapon in the game"? Ashbringer owns this and sulf hands down.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Guys its SOOOOO a Pally wepeon, with Seal of Command, you'll be unstopable! And its a Fairly good Shaman wepeon. Plus an Excellent Warrior Wepeon.. If you see some one in PvP with this Axe, run fast!
评论来自
Allakhazam
this is it
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8257/wow2haxesspe6.png
yeah i know it im cool
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just for you who haven't seen it yet to get a view at the other side of it, which is a little more unique-looking.
The eye in the center there opens up and closes frequently and also looks around now and then.
Quite scary riding around on your mount having your very own axe looking you in the eyes from your back :p
评论来自
Allakhazam
I can't believe they doesn't nerf this , but they nerf the best dagger ingame .. sick ^^ Damn blizz
评论来自
Allakhazam
that wep is so damn nice.! hope it dropp when we down C'thun.
Awius - 60 Warrior (Stormscale)
Fumi - 60 Rogue (Stormscale)
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?1196278
Edited, Fri Apr 28 17:39:44 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
didnt they also nerf the top end dmg? i remember this on wowguru a few months ago when it was datamined it still had the 3.5 speed if i remember correctly but it was 385 top end dmg not 364... imo it should stay at 385
评论来自
Allakhazam
look at all that agility. definitely hunter weapon. lol.
anyone got a screenshot?
评论来自
Allakhazam
On the opposite side, it has an eye that moves.
Edited, Tue May 9 02:56:40 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
man i crit 2200 herioc strike with a stupid unstoppable force...gimme this for a test run lol
评论来自
Allakhazam
Orc warrior weapon ftw
评论来自
Allakhazam
This isn't anymore the best 2hand weapon for warriors, now pending between rank3 and 4. First is MoM followed by Corrupted Ashbringer. Severance and the Dark Edge battle themselves for the following rank. Still nice for PvP though.
评论来自
Allakhazam
sorry i double posted
Edited, Jan 9th 2007 10:58pm by itripovergnomes
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://tsloa.no-ip.com/Wow/screenies/10.jpg
http://tsloa.no-ip.com/Wow/screenies/4.jpg
Edited, Thu Apr 27 06:59:55 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
1 simple line, that will wretch damage warriors, what will let them hide in dark corners, smash their keyboards in rage against their mothers, children and beloved......
Enhancement Shamans Can Wear Axes
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just for you who haven't seen it yet to get a view at the other side of it, which is a little more unique-looking.
The eye in the center there opens up and closes frequently and also looks around now and then.
Quite scary riding around on your mount having your very own axe looking you in the eyes from your back :p
评论来自
Allakhazam
Another view of it.
The eye frequently opens up and closes, looking around when it's open.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is a nice weapon indeed, the stats are amazing and it is without doubt the weapon with the second highest damage potential, after Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros. The Maxdmg and weaponproc of Sulfuras is outstanding, and is why it is still better than any other weapon.
Edited, Fri May 5 09:18:58 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
Well, it certainly makes orcs happy.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ok wat JRW said is all true just want to go a little more in depth.
35 str=70 AP for a warrior
1 dps=14 AP so 70/14=5
19=.95 crit from what I understand a crit chance calculates roughly to 20 AP so 19 in thise case.
Thats 86.6 dps+5 from the str and another 1.4 if you count the crit as AP
In total that is exactly 93 dps where as Ashkandi has 87 dps after you factor the AP
Yes Ashkandi has a slower speed but would u really go with a slow weapon and give up an extra 6 dps and that awesome proc? Up to you.
On a side note you could also factor in the axe/sword spec but imo that is preference.
Edited, Fri May 12 18:04:30 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
i wanna get this wep for my rogue, he will OWN OWN OWN in pVp with it! I think it drops off the Kobolds in Northshire Valley. They are really hard to kill! The drop rate is quite low, about 56%
You're gonna be grinding for a while! BUT ITS WORTH IT!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Im to lazy to calculate this out, but i can 3x windfury crit for up to 3500 (highest ever) on a clothie with The unstoppable force, so, with the extra 25 dps and near same speed, plus more str and other stats, i wonder just how hard its possible to hit with this thing? i can already 1 shot clothies, and this (or hand of rag) could probably get a enhancement shaman up to 1 shotting leather and possibly newbish mail.
评论来自
Allakhazam
What does it look like?
评论来自
Allakhazam
<imc src="
http://houseofskills.com/image_upload/deoi_small.jpg">
Edited, Wed Apr 26 23:38:29 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
isnt that a bit overpowered?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Why do i always hear it looks bad? It looks so cool with the eyeball on it best looking Wapon in game
评论来自
Allakhazam
man if i got this--straight to vendor. 26gs?
on the contrary im joking. this.&*!@.owns
评论来自
Allakhazam
I hope everyone realizes how godly that proc is...
If it procs, your opponent is disabled til the next hit, which could disable them again...
Stun Lock for Shamans..? Oh s***.
评论来自
Allakhazam
2 people on Kargath server have this horde side. and let me tell ya ive been 1 shotted. as a warrior with 4.5k HP in fury gear. their badass. 2500 MS crits EASY.
评论来自
Allakhazam
PALADIN AXE definately, so sorry, guys =P
BTW, the best pala PvP weapon I've ever seen.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Apparently the proc = death coil w/o the damage portion, so we're talking about a non DR deathcoil proc for pure ownage :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ok wtf, Appearently some retarded hunter got this one a some EU server. I bet that guy is loved by his guild...jesus.
评论来自
Allakhazam
picture:
of a great thing (truth)..
评论来自
Allakhazam
on my warrior i critfor like 2500 with this easy
评论来自
Allakhazam
Shaman + Enchament build + WF > Warrior
Shaman melee dps ftw
评论来自
Allakhazam
i kinda want to post something after reading all the this class pwns this and that class pwns that.
Why are u guys always talking in relation to 1-1 situations,
in terms of duels?
Duels are highly controlled.
There's already one significant advantage for pallies, shamans, mages,
warlocks, priests, maybe hunters. Mana. They do not have to worry about it.
Let's talk about how this wpn would perform where it really matters.
In battlegrounds. In this situation , warriors and rougues turn the tables a little. They have one significant advantage. Mana as well, and in BGs ironically it's they who do not have to worry about it this time.
One of the reasons why warriors seem to chew up everything and seems much more effective in a real situation than duels is that they do not need to be concerned about mana, just health. An experienced warrior that can catch a mana user offguard(after mages fn and burn their blink for example, or mana users resting)or with low or near zero reserves of mana has a significant advantage.
Tagging a good warrior with this wpn with a good healer would out perform
pallies, shamans tagged similarily with another healer in long engaged fights. Easily.
Ele shamans , yeah power, but without mana they drop like a sandbag,
as with all mana classes. I've seen very good warriors (and rougues of course)exploit mana reliance very effectively, selectively choosing and waiting for opponents to wear down their mana and CDs, then chewing them up.
Duels are like the firing range, everything changes in war.
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Allakhazam
1.About those dump players who speak about pallys like they can be DD - get something in ur mind , paladin has nothing to do with DD not even close .. ive seen a post here where someone goes like this "If u get a paladin some nice DD gear u can just sit down and let the warrior hit u like 4 times .. then u just hit him 1 time for all those times .." or something like that .. about that guy .. 1 word "UNINSTALL WOW". ill even give u an example (with new lvl 70 cap and new talents" this is even for those who think 2H warrios cant DPS .. lets see 2 month ago i was using AR (Arcanite Reaper) that not quite good as this one .. with pvp gear + some other stuff (live warrior own buffs) i could get like 500 base dmg .. (with medium gear) not epics and like a 32% crit chanse .. now 500+125+100+315=1040+(critx2)=2080+416(20% talent)=2496 UPS! getting in armor penalty and stuff will drop ip to 2240 max .. so i think its pretty nice .. and im not even counting the "buffs" u could get in party .. this dmg is from a solo warrior with medium gear .... so dont dream about those 4 hits :) couse ur getting only 1 or 2.
2.About those other stupid ppl about getting a 2h Axe for Shaman .. u really must be kidding us ... like paladin if u get OOM ur dead .. even a @#$%ing lvl 50 ANY CLASS can kill u if u get OOM .. paladins kick ur ass becouse they can heal anytime they want .. goes the same for shamans becouse they can own ur ass with those tottems+forstshock and stuff combos .. so just stick to not loosing ur mana in 10 sec and die becouse u got an epic axe xD
3.Dude ur shaman crit for 3.5K ? 3x Windfury ? lol that means a warrior can crit for over 8K if a shaman was that much dmg xD (with windfury)
That all .. see u guys around next time
评论来自
Allakhazam
OMG First!
评论来自
Allakhazam
come on get a screenshot going guys :) u are slow
评论来自
Allakhazam
Like, the new Spinal Reaper...
o_o
评论来自
Allakhazam
Another view of it.
The eye frequently opens up and closes, looking around when it's open.
评论来自
Allakhazam
How about you can call this axe, the next ashkandi or sulfuras? I mean...Now maces, swords and axes got some high dps wepon...Now we just need it for polearm.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Sword spec > Axe spec for PvP.
Let's take hamstring, one of the most spammed ability in PvP. With axe spec, you have a 5% higher chance to do ~100 damage instead of 45. With sword spec, you have a 5% chance to basically get a free swing for just 10 rage.
Am I saying that warriors shouldn't use this weapon? Of course not. But if you look at all the variables, from a PvP standpoint this might not be the absolute best weapon for a warrior.
评论来自
Allakhazam
lol my survival hunter should definately get it...
+19 agi lol and Scattershot proc on melee!
and it ll also make all warriors commit suicide when hey see me =D
评论来自
Allakhazam
Imo, either pally/war/shammy, but NEVER a hunter, i understand, you raided, earned dkp, and want to spend it...and thats a kickass axe! But its main attribute (its WICKED dps) would go to waste in a hunters hands, because hunters use range 90% of the time. Yea, it has nice stats, but its STILL A MELEE WEAPON. I wouldnt have wanted my crossbow of smiting to go to a rogue cause of the 1337 dps and stats, thats just ridiculous! Like i said before, pally/war/shammy priority, (but no priority between the 3) < I have a hunter and a warrior that both raid Bwl, so i can talk from BOTH sides of the table.
评论来自
Allakhazam
what a cool weapon...what does it look like?
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Allakhazam
this is a nuts weapon in anycase, highest dps in the game... it does more than sulfuras so this weapon would be good for anyone, 20 extra dmg for a hunter in ranged is pretty damn good so i believe if a hunter really wanted it his/her guild would give it to them. i hate when ppl argue about what class each weapon is for, as long as that particualr character uses it right and isnt a noob then it shouldnt matter, though i dont know many 60 noobs in high lvl instance raid guilds. either way palladins suck and take it up the butt any chance they get, i cant wait to get this weapon with either my hunter OR my warrior since it cleary works for both... given that i bid u all a good day. ppl need to quit bittchin.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Well , I personaly think ench shaman will nuke with it ;-p
评论来自
Allakhazam
just suxx for shamans that they build up alot of aggro from theire dmg attacks xD?
评论来自
Allakhazam
mate i mean for PVP shaman
评论来自
effyouzion
One of the three best two-handed weapons in Classic WoW, along with
堕落的灰烬使者
and
米奈希尔之力
.
Dark Edge is comparable to Might of Menethil on a warrior. The proc on Dark Edge acts as an equivalent to mace specialization, while Dark Edge also benefits from axe specialization. The end result is that Dark Edge crits more often, while MoM has more raw damage.
Ashbringer has the most burst damage of the three thanks to its proc and sword specialization, but the extra damage comes at the cost of -25 stamina. Given the large stamina values on the other two weapons, this is a swing in 500-670 health, which is easily 10% (or more!) of your unbuffed health pool in aggressive gear.
In PvE, Dark Edge is the best by default, because two-handers are only truly viable on horde side (thanks to Windfury Totem) and only Orcs get two-handed axe skill.
As a warrior, you would be happy with any of these three weapons!
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123user
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Procs:
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Proc chance:
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PPM:
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Other:
the proc does
not
break from any damage; proc has no cooldown; proc can be triggered by any melee/phantom strike
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