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Comment by 5909

Started this Quest Last Night will post when I am finished to give an IDEA of how long this takes. I don't plan to Grind Daily but will try to update Numbers and any tips as I come accross them.

The First Quest on each turn in has been giving me 82 rep/per turn-in. Last night completed 5 turn-ins for 404/3000.
(404/3hrs = 134rep/hr -- 42,000rep/134 = 313hrs -- 313hrs/24hrs = 13days) just a Thought but it took me 17 days to get to lvl60

LVL63 HUMAN WARLOCK, XFGREAPER on STORMSCALE.

Group and I'll grind with you.

Comment by smashfanDS

You don't need to be exalted with Darnassus anymore to be able to ride the mount.

Comment by 61678

This NPC can be killed by Horde, and attacking him will not cause the Horde player to flag for PvP.

Comment by catkin

I've been getting 250 rep for the first quest.

Comment by jonybang

Question #1,
Where is this guy, wowwiki.com has him at 50, 10 which matched the little dot this site has him at, however haveing traveled up and down, left to right of 50, 10 he is nowhere to be found, was he moved in one of the previous patches?

Comment by Eminence

ive wondered..

what does this mount cost?

now. patch 2.4 that is :)

Comment by 108156

Note to Herbalists: There is a Black Lotus spawn point under the Frostsaber Rock near Shy-Rotam's altar. Among the three herbalist alts I have taken thru this grind, I have collected at least 5.

Since Black Lotus is on a rare spawn timer, it only shows up once or maybe twice a day at any given location.

Also, since they dropped the XP needed to level post 60 with Patch 3.0.3, if you start at 60 you can easily ding three levels from MOB XP alone.

Comment by 146952

Im going for both Bloodsail amiral title (exalted) and this mount =) tho.. the bloodsail were done within 3 hours in 1 day. and I think this mount quest will be pretty easy too? =)

Comment by 232895

Anyone know his respawn time? Some horde came and killed him.. >.>

Edit: Seems like it's about 5 mins or so, maybe longer, but def less than 20 mins.

Comment by 108156

If you have decided to commit to the grind, you may as well take advantage of the earning opportunities it presents.

Skinners will have a field day on the bears and chimeras (and the cats you have to fight through to get to the quest giver). You will get rugged leather mostly with some thick and the associated hides. The bears also skin out to warbear leather about 30% of the time which is used by LWers to make Warbear Woolies (recipe from Timbermaw vendor) which DE into Large Brilliant Shards.

Miners will be passing rich and small thorium nodes as well as mithril and truesilver. One of my alts leveled up to 360 mining on the rich thorium nodes during the grind.

Herbalists will find Mountain Silversage and Icecap all over and the occasional Black Lotus. You should be able to skill up to 350 on the Icecap. The Silversage and Icecap sell for 15 - 20 gold per stack of 20 on the AH on my realm as I am writing this. The Black Lotus doesn't sell consistently on my realm but when it does, I can get 2 or 3 gold each.

Tailors will get lots of runecloth from the Winterfall furbolgs and enchanters will get tons of greens for fodder. This level green DE's to Illusion Dust, Greater Eternal Essences and Large Brilliant Shards all of which sell well on the AH as they are still used in some very useful enchants. Rares and epics (blues and purples) drop occasionally from almost anything you might be killing and from the chests that spawn in the Winterfall Village.

Before you start, do the 'Luck Be With You' quest from the lady troll in Everlook to get the Cache of Mau'ari. This lets you get shards which drop from all of the mobs you will be killing to turn in for E'ko. These are items which can be consumed to give 10 minutes buffs of various types or vendored for 15 silver each. I kept track on one of my alts and sold all of the E'ko obtained during the grind and got over 50 gold just from that.

On all of the alts I have taken through this, I have reached exalted with Timbermaw Hold by turning in the Winterfall beads long before I got the Wintersaber mount.

If you start at 58, you will almost certainly be over 62 from mob XP before you are done. And I kinda like hitting Hellfire Peninsula at 63.

Comment by 491831

ya, im doing nothing but old azeroth things now, we just don't know what will be around when the xpac is released, im trying to get all the old smith recipes, chantimg recipes and pets and mounts i can on 2 toons, thankfully they are on separate accounts, i can run them both at the same time. makes it a bit easier. im hoping to do this entire rep farm today, lol, guess i'm in for a grind from hell.....x 2.

Comment by wye43

This NPC is hostile to horde players.

Comment by 481030

DO NOT KILL HIM! You lose 250 rep if you do. If you're at 0/3000 neutral and you kill him, you can't get quests from him and basically screw yourself over if you wanted to get the mount. Kill his pet as much as you want though, no rep loss there.

Comment by alexiel

If you have lost your Wintersaber Trainer reputation after you faction changed, just talk to this NPC to get your rep back!

Comment by Varicelle

If you start this grind as soon as lvl 58 and don't have heirloons and / or are in crappy gear, you might want to consider doing the first 3 or 4 quests in the Hellfire Peninsula, as the rewards are very nice for many if not all classes, and will give you a nice boost, regardless of your faction..

Comment by 634319

you can be standing right on the exclaimation point/question mark for this guy and not see him. when this happens look up. see the big rock extending over you. he is on top of it where you cant see him. you will have to go around the rock extension to its base and climb on top of it and go to the edge.

Comment by Hairband

After reading here I felt there wasn't enough regarding the length of time of the laps, though I very much appreciated the hard work all posters (notably Kevthedude) put forth to clarify how they did this grind.

Regarding the time, in minutes, of doing one lap of just the first two quests (Frostsaber Provisions and Winterfall Intrusions) in 4.0:

-I've found that it takes me 10 minutes to do both quests, timed from acceptance at Rivern to turn in at Rivern.

-I pick up the quest then I stay North heading EAST and do the Chillwind meat first. Then I go SOUTH and I get the Shardtooth bear meat. By then, 4 minutes have clocked (usually).

-I head East after this to the Winterfall Furbolgs. If the mobs are numbered perfectly, I am done with this quest by the time 8 minutes have clocked after the time of my acceptance of the quest.

-If the mobs (usually Shaman) are inadequate, and I have already scoured the camp and the upper ridge to the South first, then I start clearing all mobs on first the lower 2 tiers of the village (just inside the gates south of the two new Timbermaw questgivers), then kill all remaining Ursas, including all Ursas on the upper ridge. IMHO, the groups of three have a 50% chance of being Shaman, so I prioritize those groups (basically I'm hoping for a three-fer). Sometimes, though, these groups of 3 mobs despawn for an hour or so (I think other players killing the totems reset them sometimes but I'm not sure).

-After a while you see a pattern of mobs that are either/or and some that are always Ursa. Usually to avoid not having enough Shaman on the next circuit, I generally clear any Ursa if (1) it is in my way and that (2) sometimes spawns as a Shaman.

-I am on a warrior, so I use Charge and Intercept whenever up, and both my Throws to move quickly. I do not use any movement increasing pots/trinks.

-I also use my epic land mount between mobs and use Charge/Intercept whenever they light up when riding my mount.

-If you see a horde or alliance lowbie at the Winterfall Furbolg mobs, it makes sense to help them out to get rid of them sooner. I use single target spells when I see a horde player, but I'll target their off-mobs if I need it. If it's a horde 80 I leave them alone; an alliance 80, I try to team up with if that's feasible.

-I have done these 2 quests in groups of 2 and of 3, and we never ran out of meats for Frostsaber Provisions since the drop rate is now 100%.

-Now getting to the point: to give you an idea of how long this would take, if you just did these two quests from Revered to Exalted, it would take approximately 6 hours and 30 minutes for a best case scenario, also as a Human, if you lucked out and had 5/5 Winterfall Shaman present at the Village on each lap. (I am using Kevthedude's numbers here, 38 laps for both Frostsaber Provisions and Winterfall Intrusions).

-In actuality it took me about 3 hours and 30 minutes to get halfway through Revered (from 0 to 10500/21000), not stopping for any herbs, using my mount between kills and using Charge and Intercept. I took a break for 10-15 minutes too. (Around 19 runs or so).

-To give you an idea of how long a lap takes as an Herbalist, which my warrior is, it took me an additional 2 minutes per lap (12 minutes instead of 10) to herb just those herbs that were on my path (not up a hill or anything I had to look for). And I got about 30 herbs for one run. Not only does this suck up whatever bag space I have but it also adds an additional 78 minutes (about 1 hour and 20 minutes extra) to the grind from Revered to Exalted. I am suddenly not as interested in the herbs as I used to be, despite them going for over 80g per stack on my server. (A friend of mine claims she was able to complete her last 12,000 rep points in about 4 hours as a Night Elf).

Notwithstanding flying in Azeroth in a few days, I hope this post will help anyone still on an epic land mount during Cat.

PS I forgot to mention if the Shaman mobs for Winterfall Intrusion aren't there, and you hurry and grind everything till your Shaman spawn, my data shows it takes 15 minutes instead of 10 to finish the circuit for the 2 quests.

Comment by 709117

If you happen to be an effing retard like myself opening tickets to gm's and furiously searching the interwebs for Rivern here, he is standing ON TOP of the cave where his exclamation point is. -_-

Comment by 562309

New coords:

46.69 17.72

Comment by 716238

an idea whose time has come. thank you patch 4.1 for making the wintersaber mount worth getting.

Comment by Zaxy

not sure what's up with this, but my first visit to Rivern Frostwind, he gave me the quest to collect tiger cubs "Get Them While They're Young." one trip out, collected the required 8 cubs, returned to him and turned in the quest-- for 3,350 reputation with the frostsabers, and 22,550 exp... and a Winterspring Cub.

the temporary companion. along with the "They Grow Up So Fast" quest. according to the quest, as soon as i collect the 20 whiskers, 20 runecloth, 20 rugged leather and 80 gold, i'll be given the reigns to my new Winterspring Frostsaber mount and a 'cubs first toy' item.....

2 quests?

here i was all geared up for an epic rep grind?
*sigh*

yeah. as was said earlier- 'extremely much easier'

*sigh*
XD

*edited to correct number of whiskers from original post of 8, to correct number of 20.

Comment by ziddy1232

As nobody has mentioned it, as of Patch 4.1, Rivern Frostwind is now a level 85 elite with 232,000 HP. His pet is still level 50.

Comment by Elfhippie

Does he still sell the mount?

Comment by OtakuboyT

As of 4.3 it appears that he no longer sells the mount at exalted.

Comment by JesiMcCoy

This site really needs to be updated...Why would it say he sells the item, if it is only gained by a quest? As well as trying to find other npcs, beasts, etc that exist in the game but cannot be found here, or a location is unavailable?

Comment by Zokhara

Really curious if there are any gloves / boots like his. They are awesome! :)

Comment by Thottbot

He is located at 50,10.

He is on top of the overhanging ice projection at Frostsaber rock. You have to circle around behind it and climb to the top to reach him. You can't see him from below and you can't see him from behind -- he's only visible once you're about halfway up the projection.

If you know where he is, he's easy to find and reach. If you don't, he is not easy to find and reach. The descriptions above that give no information and just say he's easy to find are rather pointless and unhelpful.

Anyway, hopefuly there is enough data here in this post that he will be easy to find for anyone that reads it.

Comment by Thottbot

In short, do not ever do this Faction Quest. I just finished the series and was very disappointed in the end. I have worked countless hours everyday to get to exalted, only to find out you have to pay for the mount in the end. If you want a Epic mount stick to increasing your Ranks doing PVP, I bet it would be faster.

Can start questing at Level 59 in Winterspring at Frostaber Rock
First quest is Frostsaber Provisions: Meat Collection quest needing 5 bear meat and 5 chimera meat
Second quest requires you be Friendly is Winterfall Intrusion: Kill quest of 5 shaman & 5 ursa
Third quest requires you be Honored is Rampaging Giants: Kill quest of 4 Elite giants and 4 Elite Preservers
Repeat the above quest till you are Exalted
Exalted Faction allows your to purchase the Epic mount for 800gold. No sorry what others say of it being Free was total horse-dung.
Be warned it took me over 5+months about 5-7 hours a day (yes that many hours)to get to Exalted.
If you too have been taken by this retarded Faction quest please post on the websites forums. If they hear us we might have a chance of actually getting a reward that is worth over 5months of playtime that you don't have to pay 800gold for. "Sheesh...you've been warned"

Comment by Thottbot

I completed this line of quests and it roughly took me 2 months. Others in my group took about a month to do it.

It is worth it in the end.

Some information you should know before starting it.

You will have to pay for the mount once you hit exalted (I knew this). It will cost you 900G once you are exalted OR 800G if you are a sergeant rank or higher.
The first quest is the hardest. And I am glad for this because lots of people give up after about 5 quest runs. Makes it more rare for people like me who have the mount.
Never do the Giants quest. Always stick to killing the furbolgs. The run back from frostwhisper gorge will slow you down tremendously.
Get every speed enhancer for your mount. (carrot on a stick, glove enchant, and spurs).
Also know that you will make the 900G while doing the quest, especially if you are a skinner. I was lucky enough to find an epic and probably made over 2000G while doing this quest.
Always be grouped up with people. The server I am on has probably 5 people doing the quest at a time. Don't be afraid to whisper and ask for help because this is not something you can do solo(and I like soloing).

Good Luck!

Comment by Thottbot

can someone who has gotten the mount post a picture of how it looks...I'm a hunter and I always try to get a pet to match my mount..Presently I have the white and black stripped mount and King B as a pet.

From one of the epics available in Darnassus there is a Frostsaber (the pinkish looking one that looks white in bright areas) so I have already tamed one of the frostsabers as a pet.

Now if I get this mount (I have began the first set of quests at lvl 58, hopefully this will help me lvl up tp 60 and by then I can have the rare mount)
BUT I would like to know how it looks like so I can start thinking which cat I should get as a pet.

Thanks in advance.

PS. After turning in the meat quest for the first time my faction went up 50/3000. The meat didn't take long at all to get. Just a lil south of the frostsaber rock place on the everlook side of the road there is a ton of bears and chimeras in one place.

Comment by Thottbot

mm, would help if you read the info from top to bottom.

Winterspring is not a faction (everlook is) and you gain reputation with Wintersaber trainers

i started 6 days ago ( as soon as i hit lvl 58 and exalted at the same time) and now i am almost friendly with wintersaber trainer.

the quests are long or frustrating, however my goal is getting at to at least 1000g. I used to be 300 in herborist but i abandoned this for skinning... its worth it specially with the war effort.

However i am lucky enough to be on a month old server... and so far there are hardly any high lvl horde members, so i get to group with the alliance hanging around the winterfall village for rich thorium veins or chests.

As i make my way back to Rivern.. I stop to kill a max of 6 beasts for the provisions quest. So every 5 winterfal intrusion turnins, I manage to complete the provisions and get leather.

currently 2475/3000 neutral hope to be the first on the english server Quel'thalas

good luck to all of you
lvl 60 human shadow priest Rhodesia
Lost in Azeroth Guild
Quel'thalas

Comment by Thottbot

When i respecced to holy i chose to take a 2 week break. Since the 1.10 patch came out yesterday. decided to go back to shadow priest just for this week in order to up my rep a bit more and get money.

I am currently revered with 450/21000 (a total of 21450/42000) and 60% revered with timbermaw hold faction.

off to up rep good luck

Comment by Thottbot

Is there a Horde equivalent quest giver for this type of faction based mount?

Comment by Thottbot

Drop rate for the meat is just stupid.

1st quest took 35 mins, the bears and chimera also dropped crap bulky loot, it took another 5 min round trip to *go back* and give the meat to him and get quest again...all for a measley 55xp. 40 min quest for 55 out of 42,000 xp? No thx...

I'm sorry but I just dont find that fun or worth it knowing at the end i have to also pay 800g for the mount after spending months doing a insanely irritating series of quests that are designed to make you go slowly mad.

Yes, if you do this grind you will probably be one of only a handful on your server with the mount, but in all honesty it isn't that special a mount - it doesn't even have an aura. If it were 110% or even 105% speed or glowed with a steam aura that mad it look badass then maybe (just maybe) it might justify such an insane faction grind.

At least with Timbermaw faction grinding you have access to patterns, enchants etc - a faction with the potential for better stuff in the future. What could you possibly get from the frost guy in the future after your mount, another one? ... in a different colour for another 800g? Lol!

Well done to those that have this mount and GOOD FREAKING LUCK to those that are starting it. I think i'll wait until blizzard realises how retarded it is and revises it in a future patch before i look at it again.

Comment by Thottbot

Up to 5500/12000 and slowly moving forward. Between raiding and real life there isn't much time to do this.

Comment by Thottbot

u still get the measly 75 rep when u hand in the meats but u only have to pay 100g now probably only 90 when honoured, and no u dont need epic riding which is excellent imo

Comment by Thottbot

just started on this, i did one round and it took around half an hr... this will take decades D: gah maybe i should just get a regular epic... ><;; NO must hold on to resolve

anyways, good luck to any doing this!

Comment by Thottbot

Just starting this quest now...
im not doing it becuase i need a epic mount
im just doing it because the mount looks freakin sweet... plus i have alot of time on my hands xD

Comment by Thottbot

No level does not affect the drop rate on this. If anything i would say the higher in level you are the easier it would be because you can take out the Shardtooth and Chillwind quicker. But yeh its just a bad drop rate in general.

Comment by Thottbot

What's up all?
I started this grind a few weeks ago, and I switch back and forth between it and Outland questing. I'm a 63 Balance Druid, and I just got the Winterfall quest opened up at 1500 rep.

The drop rates on the chillwind/shardtooth meats seem to be on a cycle sometimes: a few in a row, dry spell, one more, dry spell, etc...
One thing I've been wondering, if you're grouped with one other player, will you both get a meat chunk from one kill? My feeling is no, but I just wanted to pose the question. I've strictly soloed the chimeras/maulers up to now.

I enjoy this grind, Winterspring is a nice break from regular grinding, like a mini-vacation in-game.

Also, if you have the cache of mau'ri, you collect those eko pieces from all winterspring creatures. The jujus you get from the witch doctor in Everlook who converts the eko pieces sell fairly well :)

I'm a skinner too, so I get gobs of leather.

All in all, a nice way to raise cash, and EVENTUALLY, a freaky fast mount.

-Volryn
Lvl 63 Night Elf Druid
Shandris server

Comment by Thottbot

Does anyone know how much faction you lose killing him?
I'm almost exalted and damn it's tempting. I'd love to get, say, 75 extra rep points and grind his face into the snow just once, but it you lose 1000 points... alternately, do you have to *keep* exalted to use the mount?

Edit: a friend did it FOR SCIENCE!
the answer is 250, and not any extra for the cat.

Comment by Thottbot

Wintersaber Trainers

With the Burning Crusade Expansion now, its really to get exalted with this faction, you can easily get 3k+ a day, at max 3k a day will only take you 14 days min.

Don't bother doing the Giant quest, as its to far away, Just do the Winterfall Intrusion quest, its the fastest.

Once your exalted and you obtain the mount, even if you loose your exalted status with the faction you can still use it.

Comment by Thottbot

I would do the giants because you can knock them out while you wait for the bogs to respawn. I am almost to exalted and it takes a long long while.

Comment by Thottbot

Since the latest patch 2.3 you get 250 rep per turn in as opposed to the 75 that it used to be, so getting the mount just became much easier.

Comment by Thottbot

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The Math behind Obtaining the Winterspring Frostsaber
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NPC: Rivern Frostwind (Located On Frostsaber Rock in the North-West Corner of Winterspring, Kalimdor, The Left Continent…)
Faction: Wintersaber Trainers

Requirements: You Need To Be At Least Level 58, Though Being Level 70 Is a Huge Advantage, 75 Riding Skill (Obtained At Level 40.), You Also need to be Alliance..., If your horde... no luck here

Not Required but You Would Be Stupid If You Didn’t: An Epic Mount (100% Riding Obtained At Level 60) And Time… Time Is a Big Part Of This, If You Don’t Have Spare Time, This Will Take You a Very Long Time.
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For a Human. (Requires Diplomacy, A Racial Ability, Only Active in Humans.)

By Doing All Quests Available to You from Rivern Frostwind before Returning to Him At Any Given Time.
The Number of Trips to See the NPC Should End up like this. (See Below.)

Visits = Trips to See Rivern Frostwind.

6 Visits = 1’650 Reputation = Access to Second Quest.
14 More Visits = 7’700 Reputation = Access to Third Quest. (28 Trips If You Stop Doing the First Quest as It Is Horrible.)
35 More Visits = 32’725 Reputation = Exalted. (50 Trips If You Are Only Doing the Last Two Quests)

You Now Have the Ability to Purchase the Winterspring Frostsaber from Rivern Frostwind For 80 Gold, To the Best Of My Knowledge You Do Not Need Exalted Reputation With Any Other Factions In Order To Use/Ride This Mount As Of The Start Of 2008, Nor Do You Need 150 Riding Skill.

1 More Visit = 935 Reputation = Exalted Will Be Capped Out. (Over By +10 Reputation…)
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For Anyone Else. (Anyone Not Human)

By Doing All Quests Available to You from Rivern Frostwind before Returning to Him At Any Given Time.
The Number of Trips to See the NPC Should End up like this. (See Below.)

Visits = Trips to See Rivern Frostwind.

6 Visits = 1’500 Reputation = Access to Second Quest.
15 More Visits = 7’500 Reputation = Access to Third Quest. (30 Trips If You Stop Doing the First Quest as It Is Horrible)
39 More Visits = 33’150 Reputation = Exalted. (56 Trips If You Are Only Doing the Last Two Quests)

You Now Have the Ability to Purchase the Winterspring Frostsaber from Rivern Frostwind For 80 Gold, To the Best Of My Knowledge You Do Not Need Exalted Reputation With Any Other Factions In Order To Use/Ride This Mount As Of The Start Of 2008, Nor Do You Need 150 Riding Skill.

1 More Visit = 850 Reputation = Exalted Will Be Capped Out. (Over By +0 Reputation…)
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I Personally have this mount, and to date this has been the worst rep grind that i have done... my current count is 9 exalted factions
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Comment by Thottbot

One piece of Advice. DO NOT JUMP STRAIGHT OFF THE ROCK.

Comment by Thottbot

Alliance Only
<How Ceolwyn and Lariza did it>
Holy Priest and Protection Paladin
<Gorefiend>

http://www.wowfracture.com/frostsaber.JPG

Where to get it:

Frostsaber Rock, all the way in the north of winterspring from Rivern Frostwind . (On top of the big rock jutting out.) Once Exalted, you can purchase the mount for 80 gold.

FIRST:

Quest:Frostaber Provisions
Amount: 6 times.
Notes:
This quest drop rate isn't the funnest for a grinding quest, but it isn't too horrible. Just think, once you finish this part you never really have to do it again! (Unless you are a skinner and enjoy skinnings from these.. but note your bags fill up faster picking up those dang bear jaws and whatnot >.<!)

SECOND:

Quest:Winterfall Intrusion
Amount: 162 times.
Notes: This is the quest we grinded on the most. Reason is: It is not a drop rate quest, it is just a kill quest. The location of the mob is at . It will be a small little village, and they will typically be in the rear area of the village as well as on the ridge directly south of there.

BONUS!

Quest: Beads for Salfa
Notes: If you have completed the Winterfall Activity quest (given by Salfa at 27,34), then Winterfall Spirit Beads will drop along with your kills.
Warning!: I would wait until -after- you finish with your Wintersaber Trainer Rep or until -after- you are honored to turn in the beads. (You don't have to, but it's advice I wish I had when I started..) This is so you still get as much experience from killing the mobs as possible.
Why would I do this too?:
With enough experience, you can buy things from Meilosh. Click here to see all the many things you can get, not including eventually getting the quest for Defender of the Timbermaw.

Tip!

Make sure you have all quests accepted at all times. You never know when you will be killing the giants. Also, if you get dazed to or from the furbolgs, there might be a possibility a meat might drop! If this happens enough it's like a bonus quest turn in :P

We started out at level 62, the two of us. We made twins in game and figured we wanted matching mounts as well.. and this was our goal. We could never be happier with our griding. We plan on getting this mount again for our second set of twins as well.

Please note that this is a mount that has 100% speed increase, however you only need 75 riding for it! So if you don't have the gold for the upgrade in riding, you don't have to worry until later (but beware.. it will bite you in the butt later as you will have to spend -more- because to get the 225 riding, you need the 150 first >.<!). We personally both had epic mounts as to make the commute between the quest giver and the quest area faster, thus less time spent on grinding.

there is also a giant quest that comes at some point ( Rampaging Giants ), but the quest is so far south we only did it when all of the mobs were either being killed by others for the quests from Everlook and whatnot or when we needed a break from the furbolgs. They took longer to kill, were spread out more and are also elite.

Finally, I would also like to note that this amount is not relevant for the human race in the game. Their reputation gain is increased so the mount you need to do each quest will be even less! *sigh*

Comment by Thottbot

Just completed this Quest, took nearly 2 weeks. Is well worth it if you are a skinner I got LW to cap here & skinning & lvl went up from 59 to 63. Made lots off the skins. It is easiest if you leave quest & when says Winterspring cut off road to left & get birds & bears on way back to Winterfalls then cash in stuff & go to Giants then stone to Everlook & run to turn in & repeat. This will also put you in good with the Timbermaw who sell you stuff & Exalted means buy on discount. Not so hard & PRETTY CAT. Cost was 80 gold. Ride is 100% without paying to ride at 150 you can ride it at 75. Good Hunting all.

Comment by Thottbot

maybe in pre-wotlk this was hard and took long time, but now when you are lvl 80 it takes like half of the time to get this mount. i'm just friendly, but it took like 1 hour to reach that.

bad for me i can't sell what i get from drops: i'm hated with everlook sense i was killing 2000 booty bay guards trying to get friendly with bloodsail buccaneers (i made it!), so i have to drop it :(

anyway, if you want to get that mount, i would suggest you to get lvl 80 before you try to do this.

Comment by Thottbot

Well......I just obtained this Mount Yesterday evEning. I started March 23 and Grinded until the 27th. I did the same 3 quests everyday for a total of about 10 hours a day. It is tedious, It is Lonely and the most aggrivating thing to date for me on WOW *~_HOWEVER_~* This Purple/Blue looking mount is Sick! (nice) and I would definitely recommend you getting it. To make things easier I would suggest doing by yourself as the drop rate when you are in a group makes it longer. I grinded for 5 days competely by myself.

I was killed by 1 annoying a$$ Horde everyday (2 to 3 times)because I think He knew what I was doing. I would just switch up my path and work down instead of up or up instead of down to throw him off. Change your stone to Winterspring to make the path shorter 1 time every hour or as I used it.....all the things u pick up along the way once full ...go and sell it. I made 779 gold picking up all that junk and now have enough money for my Flying mount!

*tip for mages: cast slow on the giants before attack and you can get a pretty good attack built up from your Arcane missles. Giants self cast regen spell so at the very end cast Arcane Barrage and Fire Blast to bring the stubborn ones down. heal after every kill....Intellect and Mage armor helps much!... don't under estimate any of these mobs!

Congrats to the people who own this - and I Welcome me to the prooud owners club! LOL

Good Luck!

- Balnazzar - Lvl 66 Female Mage

Comment by Thottbot

and to add.....the cost is now $80 gold!

Comment by Thottbot

Forget and ignore ALL of this bullcrap about having to do 1 quest 200 times or whatever, and it taking 5 months. You can do it in a week.

I've been playing WoW/doing these quests in an offhand way when I'm bored for 4 and a half days now and I'm half way through revered.

My advice? Do EVERY quest on each run, and turn in 3 at a time. It breaks up the monotony of JUST farming ursas or whatever and makes it seem so much quicker.

The drop rate on the meat isn't bad at all. It's about one in 3 or 4. The Ursas and Shammies respawn relatively quickly and they're everywhere. If you can't find them you're not looking in the right places. They're all up the tops of the cliffs overlooking the village.

I was doing these quests at 75 so doing the Rampaging Giants quest was easy as well. And you get 350 rep with this quest, NOT 250 as other posts have stated.

Like I said, I've been doing a few hours every day for the past 4 or 5 days, and I should have it by tomorrow. It's not as difficult as people are making out, I really don't know why someone said it took 5 months.

Good luck everyone. :)

Comment by Thottbot

I have done this Rep in 4 days from 0 to exalted, the mount is most worth it, it is absolutely gorgous, I have worked on this for about 12 hrs aday, non stop, I wanted this mount, It is boring but do all 3 quests, the mount is only 80g

Good luck

Comment by Thottbot

First I have to say: I am thankful I didn't do this quest three years ago when it was harder, I am not worthy and bow down to all of you who did it then.

There are a LOT of good posts, you should take the time to read thru them. I'm just going to add my personal experiences and thoughts.

Just finished this grind today, July 15th, 2009. I'm on a Normal PvE Server. Current patch 3.1.3. Patch 3.2 due any day now.... so how long this info will be relevant, I've no idea as the mount levels are changing with this upcoming patch.

I am a Hunter. I started this grind at level 61, I'm now at 64. I did some other Winterspring quests along the way to break the monotony.

Things you might find helpful:

- It doesn't get easier. It just gets repetitive - be prepared for that. If you're at the level of the area, do some of the area quests available.

- Bring a skinner, or take it up. There are a LOT of skins to be had. Plus if you can skin your Provision kills they'll respawn faster for others.

- Be wary of the Rabid Shardtooths (in the south by the gorge) - they do drop Provisions, but they also cast RABIES -a spell that lasts 10 minutes. I never got it, but my pet did. I began avoiding them.

- The Giants aren't as as hard as I thought they'd be. Pull one at a time and you should be fine. I would start at the SW rim and wipe that usually getting as many as 3/4 of each I needed. Then the SE rim would provide me with the other two - if not, the North rim would. I only had to go down to the gorge once, having arrived just after another player had wiped out the entire North & South rims. Be aware - there is usually one Frostmaul (Giant or Preserver) that will walk the entire SW rim on each spawned group. If you're not careful, it can easily come into aggro range of the one you're already fighting. (There is another one that walks the length of the gorge.)

- Once Honored, having three quests does help. I began my cycle with the Giants, then Winterfall Village which I'd hit from the mountain to it's south. There are at least 3 Ursas up there, sometimes more. Sometimes a Shaman. Very often a Den Watcher or two (which adds bonus for Timbermaw rep, and they also drop the beads.) Then I would go down from there and hit the upper level of the village, being careful to only kill what I needed as I knew there were many others in the area doing the same quests. No need to be greedy. I rarely needed the lower level of the village. And I ALWAYS looted everything so the spawns would be faster for all. After Winterfall I'd get almost all Provisions in the NW area nearest to the village. Sometimes I'd leave the village if some higher level had done a recent fast wipe, or it was too crowded, and get Provisions done, then go back - no need to stand around waiting for respawns of non-looted corpses.

- Sometimes there is a small trunk in the village. It's small, and I'm unobservant. I didn't notice it until sometime after turning Revered. I found it in the upper level sides of the village, and at the east end of the first furblog log house on your left when you enter the village thru the main gate. A lot of times it had Truesilver in it.

Observations

- It felt at times as though everyone else in Winterspring was also doing this quest. I'm sure they weren't but it sure seemed like it.

- I now really HATE those Winterspring Owls.

- It also felt as though I'd been doing this quest for the greater part of my life at times. I forgot what the rest of WoW looked like. (I only play for an hour or two a day. I didn't have the luxury of doing this in 17 hours straight. I wish I did. My plan is to win the lotto - how awesome would it be to call in RICH to your job? Of course, I'd have to go chase the Tour de France, THEN overdose on playing WoW, wait, then build a house that I can play WoW in.. no, travel to.... )

- I was there so long I tamed Rak'Shiri, as well as all the other cats except for the cubs (how cool would it be to have a matched pair?) Now I have a mini version of the Wintersaber mount. Shame the Chimaeras are not trainable. Imagine dragging one of those babies thru town (hey! could you find a bigger, more annoying pet please?)

- The few times I flew back to Darnassus and the AH, I began to see these mounts everywhere, and thought, wtf? Why am I doing this? But by then I was Revered, and too far in to abandon quest. I also began to think, is having this mount a sign of perseverance, or just a pathetic WoW addiction? (oh yes! I am the POSTER CHILD for Denial�.)

- Shame the mini mechanical yeti you get from the quest only has three 10-min charges. It's so awesome as your "Guardian."

- I tried very hard to do these quests at early server times, when there would be less traffic. I never had competition doing the Giants, but lots doing the Winterfall Furblogs. If there were too many others I'd go get the Provisions, while I waited for the Winterfall Village to respawn and clear of other players. I have to say it wasn't too bad when 60-ish level players were also doing the quest, but there were a LOT of level 80s who would come thru and wipe the entire village, taking more kills than they needed. That got a bit annoying. I tried to be as thoughtful of others on this insane grind. I knew their pain - many didn't finish.

- I can't believe I still need 125 damn beads for frakkin SALFA to become Exalted with Timbermaw! You're kidding, right? I can't leave this snowy hell yet? Damn - maybe I should have been more greedy.......

Comment by Thottbot

is there a horde equiv for this?

Comment by Thottbot

Yes! The Venomhide Ravasaur trainer HAS BEEN activated in Un'Goro Crater, from him you get a quest to raise a baby ravasaur up over twenty days to get him as your mount. He is by the entrance to Un'Goro from Tanaris, near the Tauren dude that gives you the ape quests. The lil baby ravasaur is so cute I almost don't want to grow him up! I am also now hunting feverishly for the new baby ravasaur companion pets.

Comment by Thottbot

Rather than space my quest for the Winterspring Frostsaber over the course of a month or so--like many of my fellow grinders were doing--I decided that I would be riding the icy-white furball within a week. (I was level 71 at the time, so the kills went fairly quick.)

To prevent insanity, I usually had music or a movie playing as I ran back and forth, but in the end I benefited hugely as a leatherworker and also in my reputation grind for Timbermaw Hold. And obviously, you can earn a lot from drops. When I started the Frostsaber grind, I believe I was halfway through Honored; the Beads For Salfa quest stopped me just one bar short of Exalted. I easily finished that off in Felwood.

Anyway, in sum, the following is how many times I had to do each Winterspring Frostsaber quest. I know some people gave up on the first quest once the other two unlocked, but I kept doing all three over and over for each turn-in. The 'variety' was nice, haha, and I wanted the leather. Plus, you can establish a rhythm, e.g., run down to Gorge, kill the Giants, run back up to Winterfall Village, kill the magic-bears, and on your way back to Frostsaber Rock, kill the normal-bears and chimaeras. Repeat x 10000000. (LOL, no, not really. But mad props to those who earned their reins when this grind was longer.)

1 Frostsaber Provisions
Shardtooth Meat x5
Chillwind Meat x5

total: 54 times

2 Winterfall Intrusion
Winterfall Shaman x5
Winterfall Ursa x5

total: 50 times

3 Rampaging Giants
Frostmaul Giants x4
Frostmaul Preservers x4

total: 35 times

My Frostsaber was 80g. Overall the grind was worth it! If you're under 70, it's probably better to break it up over a longer period of time. Not recommended for the mentally unstable either, LOL. Like I said, have a movie or music playing in the meantime, and stay chill when competing over spawns. Group up when an area's particularly crowded. Personally, I didn't have much trouble with the Winterfall Village and my server's highly populated.

Good luck!

(cross-posted to relevant threads)

Comment by Thottbot

Why don't you go get the extremely easy ravasaur epic mount in un'goro. Blizzard basicaly hands that one to you horde. This cat is more unique compared to the other cat mounts than the ravasaur is to other raptor mounts though so I can see how you would rather have this, than that. Personally I think blizzard should make both factions able to get both mounts because I want a raptor on my alliance more than a cat. I can just do argent tournament dailies to get exalted with darnassus if I really want a cat mount.

Comment by Thottbot

It is well past time for Blizzard to revisit/redesign this quest chain. Requiring this endless farming (54X for one quest) is absurd; being able to farm only 5 meats at a time instead of all you need in one bunch is just plain stupid, as is the redundancy of all the other "rep" quests.

The horde, by comparison can easily get their special mount in 2 weeks by doing a handful of initial quests and then a single daily for the duration while the baby raptor "grows" up enough for the player to ride it.

In contrast, anyone wanting the wintersaber mount will be engaged in a too-long grind, run=back-to-the-quest-giver-for-turn-in-then-rinse-repeat which could conceivably be done within 2 weeks, if you do absolutely nothing else for that time but the 139 quest repeats.

The Alliance quest needs to be made much less tedious and considerably more efficient. At the very minimum the amounts to be farmed need to be adjusted downward, or the amounts that can be farmed at once toward the total need to be raised. Personally, I vote for a complete revamp of this loathesome quest chain.

Comment by Allakhazam

He's hostile to Horde.

Comment by Allakhazam

my friend managed to get this after reading the forum i CANT wait to start lol oh well she managed to do it so can i! :D

Comment by Allakhazam

Alright, I've heard so many different things about this mount that I still need a solid answer to these questions. Forgive me if you've mentioned it correctly before, I just don't know what to believe.

Do I need the Riding Skill required to ride an Epic for the Wintersaber, or will I still be able to ride it with my Apprentice Tiger Riding Skill?

Does it cost 100g, or 1000?

Is it worth it? Please let me know.

Comment by Allakhazam

So I'm a human mage (level 65) and exalted with Darn now.... and I've got my epic mount riding skill. But he won't sell me a cat. Do I need to be friendly with the frostsaber trainers in order to buy one? (I'm neutral now) What am I missing?

Thanks in advance!

Comment by Allakhazam

I just got to 3000/6000 friendly with this guy, so I have some idea what it takes and the long long grind ahead.

Those playing horde whining about this quest don't realize what this quest takes. If you start this quest and aim to finish it, *everything* is secondary. You don't create a horde character and wish to have this mount. You create an alliance character to get this mount. You don't create a level 70 character and wish for this mount, you create the level 70 character to get this mount. I'm not joking: it is easier to get to level 70 than get this mount.

Here's a little perspective on this mount:

- That dream of being lvl 58 and riding on a 100% speed mount you have? It ain't happening. You will not have this mount before level 70. You will get well past level 60 just on the grind alone (or whenever you stop getting rep for killing the shaman and ursas). And only if you are seriously dedicated will you get it before level 70, but I doubt you'd want to do such a thing as being 70 makes the grind easier. And you want the lvl 69 riding crop.

- That dream of having this mount without paying for 150 riding skill? It ain't happening. You will want an epic mount to finish this quest, unless you are a serious masochist as most of this quest involves getting from the top of the rock back down to the winterfall village. 60% vs. 100% is a big freaking difference. That's the difference between this quest being a 2-4 month grind and a 4-8 month grind.

- As a druid, it is easier to get to lvl 70, get the heroic key to auchindoun, and get swift flight form (epic flight form) than to get this mount.

Comment by Allakhazam

To all who have gone before, sorry...
Looks like they have changed the reputation gains for the quests. 68 hunter with honored status and I'm now getting 350 rep for Giants quest, 250 each for the other two. Glad I'm going to be able to finish this faster (started at 58 and have been working on it off and on), but going to really upset everyone who put all the time into this epic quest...

Comment by Allakhazam

If you are not a Nightelf you have to be exalted with Darnassus to learn riding.
Since Patch 1.12.1 there are 2 riding skills to learn. Riding(1) for the normal lvl40 mount and riding(150) for the epic one. If you want to know more about this issue, please refer to the patch notes.

In Winterspring you have to do the "Frostsaber Provisions" quest until you reach a reputation of 1500 neutral. Now the quest "Winterfall Intrusion" should be available. It's quite simple, all you have to do is kill 5 "Winterfall Shamans" and 5 "Winterfall Ursas", which also raises your reputation with the "Timbermaw Hold".

- +5 reputation for each kill until you reach "revered". Make sure not to turn in the "Winterfall Spirit Beads" until then. "High Chief Winterfall" gives +25 reputation every time. -

With a reputation of "honored" you should be able to get the quest "Rampaging Giants", which leads you south, where you have to kill 4 "Frostmaul Giants" and 4 "Frostmaul Preservers".
If you are persistant enough to reach "exalted" with the Wintersaber Trainers, you will finally be able to buy the epic mount.

Some tips:

1. You should do the quests from "Witch Doctor Mau'ari", who can be found in Everlook, before starting the "Wintersaber Trainer" quests. Once you have obtained the "Cache of Mau'ari" from him, just put that item in your inventory, you are able to collect the "E'ko", which can be turned in for some nice items. The "E'ko" and the resulting items you'll get while doing the "Wintersaber Trainer" quests are listed below.

- "Shardtooth E'ko" --> "Juju Ember" (+15 fire resistance for 10 min)
- "Chillwind E'ko" --> "Juju Chill" (+15 frost resistance for 10 min)
- "Winterfall E'ko" --> "Juju Power" (+30 strength for 30 min)
- "Frostmaul E'ko" --> "Juju Might" (+40 attack power for 10 min)

The good thing about these is, you can buff other players as well as yourself, so don't throw them away if u don't need them.
2. It really pays out to be a Herbalist because you can collect tons of "Icecaps" while doing the quests. By the time I reached "friendly", I collected 12 stacks and every single stack sells for 20 Gold in the AH.
3. When doing the "Winterfall Intrusion" quest, don't turn in the "Winterfall Spirit Beads" until you reach "revered" with the "Timbermaw Hold" because until then you get reputation for each kill. Turning all the hundrets of "spirit beads" in at revered, will definetly give you a nice boost in reputation.
4. The Winterfall Furbolgs drop lots "runecloth". Turning in all that runecloth in Darnassus will boost your reputation quite a bit, which gets you closer to learn riding, unless you are a Nightelf.

OK, I think that's all.

P.S.: English is not my native language, so please pardon my grammar and spelling if there should be mistakes. (that's always a good excuse^^)

Edited, Oct 13th 2006 at 1:20am PDT by reallybored

Edited, Oct 13th 2006 at 2:36am PDT by reallybored

Edited, Today 2:44am by reallybored

Comment by Allakhazam

I just went up there and he isnt there. Is there a quest he runs off on?

Comment by Allakhazam

***WINTERSPRING FROSTSABER / WINTERSABER TRAINERS FAQs FOR ALLIANCE AND HORDE***
This has all the FAQs and any general questions alliance and horde have regarding how to obtain the , sold by Rivern Frostwind in Winterspring.

---ALLIANCE FAQs:-------------------------------------------------
Q #1. Where is Rivern Frostwind?
A #1. He is at the tip of frostsaber rock in north-west Winterspring.

Q #2. How do I buy a Wintersaber Frostsaber mount from him?
A #2. You MUST grind 42,000 reputation points with the Wintersaber Trainers riding back and forth across Winterspring at 75 rep per quest turn in and reach exalted by doing 3 quests he gives you. This is the ONLY way to get the mount.

Q #3. What level do I have to be to get the quests to begin grinding?
A #3. You must be at least level 58 to begin his quests.

Q #4. I just found him, but he only has 1 quest, where are the other 2 quests?
A #4. When you first meet him he only has 1 quest for you to do untill you gain 1,500 rep where you will get the 2nd quest to do untill you are honored where you get the 3rd and final quest.

Q #5. How much reputation do I get if I am a human?
A #5. As a human you will get 82 rep each quest turn in.

Q #6. As a human, how many quests will I have to complete to become exalted with the winterspring trainers?
Q #6. As a human you will have to complete 513 quests.

Q #7. How much reputation do I get if I am a non-human?
A #7. As a non-human you will get 75 rep each quest turn in.

Q #8. How many quests will I have to complete to become exalted with the winterspring trainers as a non-human?
Q #8. As a non-human you will have to complete 560 quests.

Q #9. Witch of the 3 quests is the fastest?
Q #9. The fastest quest to complete is "Winterfall Intrusion" which requires you to kill 10 level 57-59 winterfall furblogs. Average completion time of this quest in 10 minutes.

Q #10. How much is the Winterspring Frostsaber mount when I am exalted?
A #10. The mount costs 90g to purchase.

Q #11. How fast does the Winterspring Frostsaber travel?
A #11. The mount travels at 100% speed increase.

Q #12. The mount says it requires 75 riding skill, do I have do buy epic mount training (150) to ride this epic mount?
A #12. No, this is the only epic mount in the game that requires 75 riding skill, but you will need 150 riding skill to learn training for flying mounts.

Q #13. Why don't more people have the winterspring frostsaber if they don't have to buy epic training to ride this epic mount?
A #13. Two reasons really, this grind is THE most intense and longest reputation grind in the entire game, period. Second, you can easily make 650g for epic mount training and 90g for epic mount by questing and auctioning/vedoring items LONG before you ever finish the grind. By the end of the grind you should make over 2,000g and have about 15 or 16 blue items and maybe even 1 or 2 epics.

---HORDE FAQs:-------------------------------------------------
Q #1. Where is Rivern Frostwind?
A #1. He is at the tip of frostsaber rock in north-west Winterspring.

Q #2. (As blood elf) When I talk to him he says I am now neutral with the wintersaber trainers, how do I begin the quests to raise my reputation?
A #2. You can not obtain any quests to raise your reputation with the wintersaber trainers as the quests and winterspring frostsaber mount are obtainable being alliance ONLY.

Q #3. Can horde obtain the ?
A #3. No, this mount is exclusively for Alliance players ONLY.

Q #4. Do horde have a version of this mount grind?
A #4. No, there is no horde version of the wintersaber trainers, however there were Ravasour Trainers in Un'goro Crater at one time but were removed from the game. No word if they will ever be implemented into the game again.

Comment by Allakhazam

It will cost u 900g anyway. He's not belonging to Alliance, so there is no discount for rank 3+.

P.S. I have it on Draenor.

Comment by Allakhazam

I have begun the climb

find the best way is to do one or two quests a game session and reserve time to grind the heck out of it on weekends! :)

is it possible to sell the wintersaber on AH after you buy it from trainers?

:)

Comment by Allakhazam

Why is it, that HORDE cannot access any of these quests nor being able to get this mount (from not being able to access said quests) I approached this NPC as my 62 Undead Rogue and he appeared Red Named, he didnt attack me, but I was unable to talk to him, with lead to me not getting the quests obviously. Is there some Pre-quest I need to do? Or is it that BLIZZARD just %^&*ed HORDE over again by giving the ALLIANCE a 75 riding skill epic mount and not giving one to HORDE, or did they give one to HORDE and I dont know about it? IF anyone has any information please reply to this post. Thank you.

Comment by Allakhazam

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Edited, Dec 22nd 2007 1:07pm by carigis

Comment by Allakhazam

Of course he's hostile to Horde ! He's the trainer of the special Alliance Wintersaber mount. And here is the explanation:

"Around 4,000 years ago, Tyrande Whisperwind saved the life of the frostsaber queen, at the hands of rampaging giants. Since then, the frostsabers have been allies of the night elves."
by Rivern Frostwind

But there is also a special mount for the Horde. Try the "Ravasaur Trainers" in Un'Goro Crater.

Comment by Allakhazam

If you're a smart monkey, as soon as you can do Winterfall Intrusion, pick them both up at the same time. On your way down to Winterfall village hit up Elder Shardtooths and Chillwind Ravagers, then on your way back as well if you didn't get all the meat you need. Then each trip will garner 150 Wintersaber Trainer faction instead of just 75... still a slog and a half though no matter what.

Comment by Allakhazam

i hear this costs only 90g...

Comment by Allakhazam

Did the quest, been to the turn-in three times. Got ganked while here the first time and STILL no NPC./ Got the Gold dot, no dude

Comment by Allakhazam

A quick note for those who have done the rep grind which I lovingly refered to as the ECK (Endless Cycle of Killing) to my friends and guild members who shook their heads at me and offered me money just to buy a elite mount and training.

Rather than kill the quest giver and his cat in frustration (I have seen this happen at least twice) as it seems that nothing has changed when you have got your rep up. You have done ALL this work FOR NOTHING ! ARRGHHH I WILL KILL YOU ! and proceed to do just that. (I must admit I now understood their frustration)

However after completing 1 quest more to ensure that I had maxed out my rep I noticed that the dialogue box now had a scroll bar and if you scroll down you will see a Purchase bag. Ready to purchase your frostsaber Mount(and sell your accumalted Junk and greens)

PS. I would dearly love as a druid to be able to buff and heal horde players, we are all players same at the keyboard

Cheers Astlea Exlies of SWG

Never Give UP NEVER SURRENDER :D

Comment by Allakhazam

what quest do i haev to do to get exhalted with these guys? the repeatable one? i wnat that mount

Comment by Allakhazam

Just wanted the same confirmation here that Vansmirnoff asked for in his post:

WoW Wiki says if you're any other race besides night elf, you must also be exalted with darnassus to learn tiger riding. Is this true?

Comment by Allakhazam

After i read all these posts i think ill give up killing the ravagers and bears for the meet..ive been killing up to 1000/3000 (winter saber trainers)and after what i can understand i need to get to 3000 and then also excalted to darnasus?

im human priest on ravencrest.

Comment by Allakhazam

Why doesnt he drop anything? :P

Comment by Allakhazam

Last time i was here, just before BC, he was hostile. Now I can talk to him, and I get "you are now Neutral with wintersaber trainers." Does this mean Horde can get this mount now?

Comment by Allakhazam

Can I just walk up to him and purchase the Winterspring Frostsaber? Or do I have to do the quests?

Comment by Allakhazam

Do you need to become exalted with Darn too to be able to learn tiger riding just so you can ride this one?

Comment by Allakhazam

i dont understand why all allys have to be so rude and childish ive always played horde have a few 70 and some 60 and always wantecd this so when i heard a friend played ally i reroleed ally on his server and im now doing these and if u think the horde is blessed with not having a grind q u maybe just shouldnt do this quest it is optional and i gues there is many horde that accualy would grind there but of to get a cool special mount not to save the 1k gold wich u should have allready when u ding 60 if u havent spent everything on ah >.< so please dont say something like u dont know whats it all about and such things cuz many ppl like to grind just look at the chinese=P

Comment by Allakhazam

I swear to God, the price should be changed. Rich people go for multiply "average" mounts(Easy to aquire the mount riding of a diff race due to starting with Friendly and usually ending up with Honored/Revered by the time you hit 60), others go farm BGs, reach rank 11 and get the pretty 80g war mounts.
In order to get this beauty you need to do SH!TLOADS of boring quests. I think its quite unfair for people to spend loads of time farming the rep from Neutral to Exaled just to pay the same price like for the ordinary mount. Yes, it does look unique, but not worth it unless you have loads of free time, no school/work/family and youre really bored.
Id love to see a more appealing price, 50-100g for example.

Comment by Allakhazam

Aww that sucks Horde can't do it. Hopefully someday they will put the Ravasaur Trainers back into Un'Goro, or, to make it fair, just get rid of the Wintersaber Trainers too since the Ravasaur ones are gone.

Either way too bad the only tiger mount Horde can get now is the one from Zul'Aman which is like...0.01% chance of getting, haha.

Comment by Allakhazam

also before u decide to get the mount, getting exhalted with him to get to buy it means about doing 840! quests, not just those four :P

Comment by Allakhazam

Does anyone on Dragonblight have this uber sweet mount already or am I going to be the first to get it :P

Comment by Allakhazam

For all the time you'd put in to get exalted- you could grind to
Grand MArshal lol.

Very stupid and ridiculous requirements/quests. To just get from
nuetral to friendly- You have to do one quest (the same quest) 60
times and thats as a human with rep bonus. Which requires you to
obtain 5 chillwind meats and 5 shardtooth meats. They don't drop
every kill either- look to kill many many chillwind ravagers and
elder shardtooths. Think the droprate is 12-15% for the meat.

Only highlight I had before I gave up was a Krol blade dropped off
a ravager. If you are a skinner then grinding rep could make you
rich as all the bears-ravagers are skinnable.

But this is only the first part... Once you hit friendly you have
to start killing giants 58-60 elites.

Its way too much to expect from people. If you really want to ride
a tiger just get exalted with Darnassus instead with Runecloth turn ins.
Much easier-faster- same effect..

Comment by Allakhazam

Sorry Genoism but it costs 900 gold or 800 if you're at least rank 4
I have almost done it :) revered 18500/21000
Monday or Tuesday will be mine ! so happy , i'm working on it from 2 March all day 4 5 hours for day

Edited, Sat May 13 15:28:15 2006

Comment by Allakhazam

I am so sorry to kill him once and get a indifferent prestige.He won't give me quests forever.Can blizzard give me a chance to let him give me quests again?I hadn't a wow id.Please report the problem to BLIZZRAD.Thanks very much.I want Reins of the Winterspring Frostsaber very much.

Comment by Allakhazam

Is there some tips ,how can i do exalted with them ?Easy mode etc. ;) . Or i must farm until i get mad ?:D

Comment by Allakhazam

Hes hostile, how do i know? i killed him. lol
anyways... his lvl50 pet is stronger then most lvl60 beasts in the same area :S

Comment by Allakhazam

Since the patch, the only thing barring riding 'racial' mounts are racial requirements.

This mount has none. Expect to see lots of horde with this mount soon!

Comment by Allakhazam

delted

Comment by Ehayen

There is on quest giver at the provided coordinates.That is over some open water.

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Rivern Frostwind <Wintersaber Trainer>

This NPC can be found in Winterspring .

Rivern Frostwind <Wintersaber Trainer>

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