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Kommentar von 144071

Soulstone in a trinket?

Kommentar von 4375

Basically an updated version of the Eye of Gruul.

Kommentar von Percy1

The really sad thing is this thing has the potential to be amazing with CoH. (2% proc chance, but if you're hitting 6 targets its about an 11% proc chance!) (1 - .98^6)

But unfortunately CoH costs 806 mana! So unless you spec into one point of mental agility, you can't get 100% free CoHs and cheat the fsr some =(

But its still the best non-epic trinket for holy priests so far imo.

Kommentar von heine123

this Effect has a 2% chance to proc, so.. Hmm.. lets say 14,000 mana, 2% chance to reduce mana cost of the next spell.. Laaame
id rather get the trinket from a Quest that increases your spirit by 300 for 15(or 20?) and gives like 55 SpellP, or the Item from Botanica Last boss, the pre-tbc Darkmoon card: Blue Dragon or something "2% chance to allow 100% of your mana regeneration to continue for 15 seconds" could also have been a Majorly upgrade from this one. MUCHO Better!

Stack Spirit in All Sockets(with int, healing, what so ever combo's.. but always with spirit)
Stack items with Spirit
Get the Botanica Last boss trinket(Burning Crusader lvl 70 instance - drop on Normal & Heroic)
Get the Darkmoon card: Blue dragon
and voila.. You'd never go oom

<3 Cianxo for he's Mana regen allowing me to Chain pull / Tank the Heroics we did together Back in the good old TBC ^^

Kommentar von 11593

I got this the other day and i havent seen it proc. Does anyone know if its an invisible buff youd get cause id like to be able to see if the next spell is cheaper.

Kommentar von Arovei

I got this two days ago, and I have to say, I'm still going to use my 2 level 70 trinkets. Even as a holy paladin, I thought this trinket would be amazing (and it would, if it procced more often) but the extremely low 2% proc rate makes me sad. The Scarab of the Infinite Cycle from BM will still have a spot for me.

Kommentar von Vaugn

I have this item. After playing with it for a while, I agree that it's probably proccing in the 2% range. Could be a bit more -- at that low level it can vary a bit and one wouldn't notice unless you're doing thousands of casts.

Unfortunately, a 2% chance of -800 mana comes to a savings of about 16 mana/cast. And that assumes that you're using the free spell for at least the full 800 mana's worth. If you use a simple HOT or standard healing spell, it probably costs less and your 16 mana is probably more like 12 or 13 mana.

All in all, a rather unimpressive trinket. The +spellpower is nice, but the rest is fairly insignificant.

Kommentar von 170827

Going to be farming for and testing this trinket asap; as the successor to Eye of Gruul (best pre SW trinket for Shamans and Priests IMO) I'm hoping it still has no ICD because EoG used to clock in at ~47 mp5 with 3-hit CH's but with Glyph of CH and other post 3.0 changes it will be interesting to see how this procs. Also it wold allow me the option of moving CH's mana cost through talents and gear to something more sub 800 as opposed to bare minimum.

Kommentar von 182830

one of the best restodruid trinkets, and it drops on normal instead of heroic. duhhh. Nobody ever goes to normal versions anymore.

Kommentar von 105075

Does anyone know if this will proc off of Judgement of Light ticks? Now that Holy Paladins judge, this would actually be useful for us if it did.

Kommentar von 20383

I have a druid with this trinket... but I've never done tests and such on items. Is there an addon that can track the information or would I have to do it by hand? Pretty much I just wanna help contribute information because I saw this trinket, instantly drooled, and instantly started to farm it! Took about 4 or 5 runs :)

Open to suggestions on differenting testing senario's that people want to know about!

Kommentar von 240805

This trinket's proc effect does not function with Penance.
I am a sad priest.

Kommentar von 263188

Currently this trinket seems bugged, at least for me. When it procs, it gives me the buff, but instead of just reducing my next heal by 800 mana, it reduces ALL heals in the 15 secs by 800 mana. Awesome bug :D. Unfortunately, expect the hotfix soon enough...

Kommentar von EMan32x

I have this on my Restoration Druid and I noticed something VERY interesting. I need this to be tested by other people.

It appears that Nourish acts in a bugged/glitched way with this trinket. It seems that while the ability DOES lower the mana cost to 0, casting Nourish does NOT remove the buff. That means that for the duration of the proc's buff, you can cast unlimited free Nourish-es.

Obviously this is an exploitation of a bug, so use it at your own risk, but I mean, it's not like you have to go out of your way to use it...

The other possibility is that both times I've noticed this, I was just being very lucky with a string of 4 procs in a row or so.

Note that this proc does not occur unless your target is at less than full health, so you have to test it in the field, while you're taking damage.

Kommentar von Manbearcat

Can anyone confirm if this is a chance on hot tick or just cast?

Kommentar von 266489

I was testing this trinket in Violet Hold today. When it procs (Healing Trance), Wild Growth cost 3 mana in Tree of Life form and it does not consume the buff.

Enjoy spamming it, until they slap a 6 sec cooldown on it.

Kommentar von Ragnarox

So instead of enjoying this bug while it lasted, why does everyone seem to think it's a good idea to broadcast about it? Hmm, I wonder if bliz checks forums...nooo

Kommentar von 275094

can anyone confirm if Judgement of Light heals will proc this ?

Kommentar von 264360

Says it drops in normal and heroic mode but the level req is 78. I don't know of any heroics dropping that level loot. Anyone able to confirm that this drops in heroic?

Kommentar von RedTalon19

I've been farming both regular and heroic runs for this trinket and still have yet to see it drop. I was planning to replace my Talisman of Troll Divinity with this trinket but I'm just not so sure anymore. 73 spirit is a great deal of constant mana regen as well as 18 spell power for a holy priest, versus the raw spell power of this trinket and a chance at saving a great deal of mana; 2% seems awfully low.

Tough choice here, once I actually get this I'll have to fool around with it and see how it plays with my clearcasting procs. Perhaps I'll simply wait for the Spirit-World Glass to drop from Naxx to keep my massive amounts of spirit.

Kommentar von towa1

forgot why i hate pugs. I'm a holy priest and got out rolled on this by a lock and a feral druid.

Kommentar von 271118

Does this trinket proc off the healing effects from Glyph of Holy Light or Judgement of Light?

Note that the tooltip language is different from the Eye of Gruul. This item says "Your healing spells have a chance ..." as opposed to the Eye which says "Each healing spell you cast"

Thanks in advance.

Kommentar von 275344

Just like to note that the druid spell wild growth gets the benefits of this proc but does not remove the buff.

Kommentar von vexis58

Note that this proc does not occur unless your target is at less than full health, so you have to test it in the field, while you're taking damage.

This is not true -- it just has a very low proc rate (Proc Chance: 2%), so maybe it just seemed like it when you were testing it.

I used up 1.5 mana bars chain-casting Lifebloom on myself in Dalaran before it procced, but it did eventually proc. It does not appear to proc from HoT ticks, though it's really hard to tell if I'm just being unlucky or not. This requires further testing.

Kommentar von Irulan

I got this trinket while I was leveling, and started using it now as a resto shaman. It's not as fantastic as I thought at that time but not bad too. I tracked last afternoon's naxx raid and came to this proc rate : 39 times on 1750. This includes every hot tick. That's an average of 0,5 procs per min or 33mp5 if you use every proc to it's fullest which not always happens. (ofc I only tracked intensive bossfights to get more accurate).

Compared to Insightful Earthsiege Diamond, that meta gem procced 64 times, which was around 41mp5.

I hope this info is useful to somebody :)

Kommentar von 278255

From PTR 3.0.8:

Soul Preserver: This item will now interact correctly with Desperate Prayer, Lay on Hands, Riptide, and Wild Growth.

What about Nourish?

Kommentar von 288022

What a lot of people neglect about this sort of trinket is that it enables you to get out of the 5 second rule. If you get a proc on a chain heal(because like the eye of gruul and the fel reavers piston before it this is best suited for a resto shaman and coh priest(until nerf)) Then you cast the next 2.5s chain heal which costs nothing and then 2.5s for the next chain heal thats 5s where you havent been casting so you get 1-2 ticks of full regen which is <3.

The base spellpower makes it a nice trinket alone anyways but I'd estimate it to be about 50mp5 worth if you use it to its full advantage, or about 35 mp5 if you spam heal. Not bad for a normal instance drop better than a lot of the heroic comparable trinkets.

Kommentar von WowheadEnjoyer

2% proc rate. Too low.

Kommentar von 15585

In the event anyone was wondering the buff is called "HEALING TRANCE" if you need it to setup an addon or anything.

Kommentar von theVirtuoso

Dropped on my priest's first CoS run at level 78. I couldn't believe it... made me forget to turn in quest which would have bumped me to 79 and now the secret passage isn't open :/ re-run.

Kommentar von 316770

Here's an important question. Does soul preserver stack with eye of gruul?

Kommentar von 170827

Looking over a recent Sarth 3D parse I came across the following data when considering replacing this trinket;

Mana cost of CH: 653
First half duration: 2'27"
(encounter was split for some reason)
Procs first half: 3
Second half duration: 5'14"
Procs second half: 9

Total: 12 procs in 7'41"

12*653 = 7836
7'41" = 461"
7836 / 461 * 5 = ~85 MP5

Don't think I'll be replacing this until CH stops working all together.

Kommentar von Xjba

I'm trying to figure out how this stacks up against Valonforth's Remembrance and Strike of the Seas...

I'm a disc priest with both...and I'm not sure which, if either, I should drop...

Kommentar von 130995

Seems like a very nice blue, might be worth keeping for General Vezax fight.

Kommentar von 361987

The reason i love this trinket even going into the naxx10 gear is that it's spellpower is better than some of the heroic drops. It also is the only pre-naxx10 trinket that i am aware of that helps with mp5. In the end, it depends a lot on what kind of problems you as a healer are experiencing. One who does not run out of mana probably finds one of the SP trinkets, while those with problems are going to take the occasional proc to conserve mana.

Kommentar von loler

Works great on General Vezax.

Kommentar von lipinski

Has anyone had any problems recently with procs. I have had this for a week and have never seen his show a proc. I can burn thru an entire mana pool and never see one. Does that sound right?

Kommentar von p51mustang24

This is a nice trinket. I was wearing full purples with a green trinket...so i figured I could upgrade to this without needing to hope for raid drops. Got it on my first run through CoS. (woot! only 14% drop rate)

This CAN proc on overheals. (I spammed healed on some1 in dalaran until it went off after around 20 casts)

I have not had time to test Judgement of Light for procs, but if it works with that that would make this trinket as good as some purples. This trinket still is good for pally healers, despite the fact that we don't have as many chances to proc it.

Kommentar von Amithedruid

If any druid has not figured it out yet, because it is pretty damn obvious, after this proc the best thing to do is to cast a lifebloom so that after it bursts it will give you mana back. This increases your mp5 by a good ammount in any fight. Still attempting to get this trinket to drop for me though, when I do I will run tests to see if HoTs can still proc it in 3.2.

Kommentar von 125795

Your healing spells have a chance to make your next heal cast within 15 sec cost 800 less mana(2%proc)
With this low procrate, its usually no internal CD.
A druid with 1sec GCD will need to cast for 50sec to see a proc on average.
800mana every 50sec = 80mp5

MP5 trinkets for druids(sorted by mp5 ofc):
250mp5 Spark of Hope +20.5 spellpower
80mp5 Soul Preserver +75 spellpower
75mp5 Darkmoon Card: Greatness +39 spellpower
72mp5 Figurine - Sapphire Owl
70mp5 Darkmoon Card: Blue Dragon
70mp5 Majestic Dragon Figurine +37spellpower
69mp5 Living Ice Crystals
67mp5 Tears of the Vanquished
66mp5 Show of Faith +140 spellpower
60mp5 Spark of Life +73 haste rating
57mp5 Binding Light +68 spellpower
55mp5 Spirit-World Glass +29 spellpower
54mp5 Energy Siphon +68 spellpower
53mp5 Sif's Remembrance +110spellpower
39mp5 Valonforth's Remembrance +10 spellpower
36mp5 Winged Talisman +58 spellpower
34mp5 Je'Tze's Bell +106 spellpower
33mp5 Soul of the Dead +2% crit
32mp5 Talisman of Resurgence +100 spellpower
29mp5 Talisman of Troll Divinity +15 spellpower
28mp5 Cannoneer's Morale +47 spellpower
27mp5 Pandora's Plea +136 spellpower
26mp5 Memento of Tyrande +62 spellpower
25mp5 Darkmoon Card: Illusion +100 spellpower
21mp5 Bangle of Endless Blessings +5 spellpower
20mp5 Forethought Talisman +111 spellpower
12mp5 Futuresight Rune +68 spellpower

Kommentar von 125795

Spellpower trinkets for druids:
200 spellpower Illustration of the Dragon Soul
140 spellpower Show of Faith +66mp5
136 spellpower Pandora's Plea +27mp5
125 spellpower Eye of the Broodmother +1.9%crit
111 spellpower Forethought Talisman +20mp5
111 spellpower Titan-Forged Rune of Audacity
110 spellpower Sif's Remembrance +53mp5
106 spellpower Je'Tze's Bell +34mp5
100 spellpower Darkmoon Card: Illusion +25mp5
100 spellpower Talisman of Resurgence +32mp5
98 spellpower Embrace of the Spider +92haste rating
98 spellpower The Egg of Mortal Essence +92haste rating
93 spellpower Forge Ember +1.59%crit
75 spellpower Soul Preserver +80mp5
68 spellpower Binding Light +57mp5
68 spellpower Energy Siphon +54mp5
68 spellpower Futuresight Rune +12mp5
63 spellpower Redeemer's Alchemist Stone
62 spellpower Memento of Tyrande +26mp5
59 spellpower Mercurial Alchemist Stone +50haste rating
58 spellpower Winged Talisman +36mp5

Kommentar von 206160

some people say it can procs off HoT
ex.
1.I got this trinket while I was leveling, and started using it now as a resto shaman. It's not as fantastic as I thought at that time but not bad too. I tracked last afternoon's naxx raid and came to this proc rate : 39 times on 1750. This includes every hot tick. That's an average of 0,5 procs per min or 33mp5 if you use every proc to it's fullest which not always happens. (ofc I only tracked intensive bossfights to get more accurate).

2. b) It (as a Resto Shaman) can proc off of every heal and HOT tic running, which works out to every jump of CH, every tick of Earthliving, the initial and tick heals of Riptide and any tick of Ancestral Awakening. However it will not proc off Healing Stream Totem as the totems healing counts as pet-healing.

some say it does not.
ex.
1. Edit: Just received this trinket. It does not appear to proc off HoT ticks, unfortunately.

anyone can actually confirm whether this will proc off HoT or not.
as a druid, I want to make sure if I need to farm this trinket.

Kommentar von 200018

In fact, it may well be BiS for that specific fight, depending mostly on your class. Other trinkets I've picked up over the past ~5 months in heroics, Naxxramas, Eye of Eternity, Ulduar or even Tot(G)C as a (discipline) Priest are the following ones:

When laid out, you'll notice that pretty much all of these trinkets lose either their stat or equip bonus on Vezax - the Forge Ember and Forethought Talisman are the only ones that don't (aside from of course, the Soul Preserver). Because the Spark of Hope is the only one that retains a mana conserving bonus (Unless you count Living Ice Crystals, which isn't very good), I'm currently using that one as my second trinket to go along with the Soul Preserver on the Vezax encounter.

Kommentar von Moethetroll

The Mp5 druid trinket post said this is the second best druid trinket. Its not. Most of the time you wont need the extra efficiency of using a large spell that costs (lol cuz we have one *sarcasm*) 800 mana. These days, its nearly impossible to go oom, at least from my experience. (we have plenty of talents and abilities that let us not go oom, namely, 50% mp5 while casting, and Innervate... plus, if things go terrible I pop potions and what not)

Kommentar von 318094

This trinket is still beautiful for a Holy Priest well into raiding. Trinkets that compete and surpass this in various aspects are (in my sincerest opinion) Spark of Hope from Ulduar 10 and Solace of the Fallen from Trial of the Crusader 25 if we are talking about MP5. In fact, I'm more convinced that these trinkets will serve as accompaniments to my Soul Preserver as opposed to replacements.

The fact that it can proc off overheals and the fact that it has no internal cooldown have made this a formidable mana-conserving trinket for me. It's emotionally satisfying to be a holy priest healing a raid constantly for five minutes without popping fiend or Hymn of Hope, only to realize not just that you're still at about 70% mana, but that the Disc priest next to you is asking for an Innervate from our kitty druid.

My talent allocations emphasize mana-efficiency over burst healing. I use 3/3 Mental Agility (Discipline), 3/3 Meditation (Discipline), 1/1 Inner Focus (Discipline), 3/3 Improved Healing (Holy), 1/1 Spirit of Redemption (Holy), 2/2 Surge of Light (Holy), and 3/3 Holy Concentration (Holy). With the incorporation of the trinkets I use (Soul Preserver and Tears of the Vanquished) and between all of these talents, I have come to several conclusions:

1) The loss in burst healing incurred by emphasizing MP5 as opposed to spellpower and crit is not nearly as high as the gain in effective mana.

2) In almost any situation, preventing the loss of mana is far more beneficial than improving the gain of mana. General Vezax is not only a good example of this sentiment, but also a very strong test of it.

The only legitimate successor to this trinket is Solace of the Fallen, which has twice the spellpower of Soul Preserver, and not only a large amount of potential MP5, but a constant and large amount of potential MP5. While it is inferior in the sense that it replenishes mana rather than reducing costs, the effective mana from Solace is higher than Soul Preserver hands down.

Other trinkets might be better as replacements, but not decisively better, or are actually sacrificing one stat somewhat so that another one can rise signicantly. Such an example is Spark of Hope, which equates to about 26 spellpower for a Holy Priest with wings (see: Spirit of Redemption), about 22 MP5 while casting from the spirit alone, and a much lower mana cost reduction, although now it applies to every skill you have, not just the healing/helping spells. As you can see, stronger, because it's effects are constant, but not a successor, because it uses entirely different tools to achieve the same purpose which, while more effective, are not ideal and have their own limitations.

43 mana does not have the power to make any spell free under my current talents, and there is nothing it can reduce when combined with Soul Preserver that wouldn't already be or not be free after Soul Preserver's proc. The only way it could make a spell free is if I had no points in Mental Agility and kept Soul Preserver equipped alongside this, and that would only benefit a full-cost Circle of Healing. So, unlike Soul Preserver, it has no way of messing around with the five second rule in addition to the cost reduction. However, in exchange, every spell cast is affected. But then, Soul Preserver also packs roughly 3 times more spellpower for a holy priest.

Soul Preserver benefits the majority of my most frequently used healing spells by making them free--Flash Heal, Empowered Renew, Prayer of Mending, Circle of Healing (even Guardian Spirit). It also reduces the more expensive spells to very cheap levels--Greater Heal, Prayer of Healing. It also has great synergy with Surge of Light, which can effectively allow me to cheat the five second rule indefinitely when I'm really lucky.

Ultimately, this is an underappreciated trink, and in my eyes it took them two major patches before a suitable replacement would even appear. Soul Preserver, I salute thee for thy hard work, diligent service, and epic procs.

Edited: I wish Spirit would make up its mind about how much regen it provides. Trying to calculate the numbers after 3.1 has been a little yeah... still, it's always good to revisit them and find out the actual numbers are better than my calculations.

Kommentar von Azulinde

On my priest I noticed that this trinket procs extremely often when casting https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=48072 in conjuction with https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=56161 I suspect that the trinket rolls for a proc for every target affected by Prayer of Healing, and again for every target affected by the HoT its glyph applies. That's 10 consecutive chances to proc the trinket. The reason I suspect this, is because my glyphed PoH procs Soul Preserver about every other cast. I actually had it proc 6 times in a row, letting me spam PoH's for 1054 (down from 1854) mana.

I have cast Prayer of Mending 94 times in a 5 man dungeon, the group includes on pet which was also affected by it. The trinket proced 54 times, this is awesome. It means that the Soul Preserver lowers the cost of Prayer of Healing by about 400 on average, making it the best heal spam trinket way past Ulduar and well into Trial of the Crusader, where you can pick up Solace of the Defeated for about 180 mp5

If you cast once PoH per 10 seconds, the Soul Preserver already nets you 200 mp5 as a priest.

Please test this for other aoe heals as well if you're a shaman or druid and let us know what happens.

Kommentar von wasniahC

It says 2% if you click the item and check the procc chance. This suggests no internal cooldown.
Also, one way of modelling this is, if, as you say, things cost under 800 mana always, that it is 2% off the cost of all your spells, and thats if you just chain cast and ignore this as it proccs. Thats pretty sick.

I'm not sure how great this is for other classes, but as a druid, I can use the "clearcasting" proccs on lifeblooms, and get it giving me more mana than I lose, as with my normal clearcasting proccs. Which helps even more.

I'm sure other healers have their high-mana spells they can use this on as well!

Kommentar von syrimatu

had this proc 7 times ina row on my holy priest, first proc off prayer of healing, second off circle then the rest prayer of healing.. pretty funny really

Kommentar von Lothrik

In case you were wondering like me:

The Healing Trance buff from this AND Inner Focus are BOTH consumed on cast if you happen to have both up at the same time.

Kommentar von 443789

Man, i know this is old content, and i really should not get peeved about it, but this just dropped for my 79 holy priest on a regular run, and an 80 lock needed on it and won.

WTF. Why is a lock even able to roll on a pure healing trinket?

I was pretty disappointed, given that i hadn't seen a trinket since about level 50!

Kommentar von 700975

Resto shaman: it doesn't lower mana cost of greater healing wave.

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