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Kommentar von Acku

This is the ore you need to acquire after Cobalt, so far it has been found in Sholazar Basin as well as Zul'Drak.

Kommentar von 95744

Can be found either in Zul'drak or in Sholazar Basin, but in Basin saronite spawn in a ridiculously fast speed, so Basin will be a much better choice if you want to mine saronite(mining speed is around 200 ores per hour with 280% flying mount, 450 maxed mining and 400ms lag).

Rich nodes are just rare replacements of the non-rich ones. Normal nodes can be mined 2-4 times, and rich ones can be mined 5-7 times.

Beware that hardened saronite bar does nothing atm so don't make it till it patches!

Prospecting saronite ore will "spawn" around 20-25% rare gems. No powders drop atm, probably never will. All colors "spawn" with same chance so data here must be somehow distorted.

Background lore of Saronite: Saronite is formed by clotted blood of old god Yogg-Saron who dwell in Northrend and showed up in War3-TFT as the Forgotten One(Old Gods will play a main role in future instances in Storm Peaks; I won't spoil more). That is why you can see army of Ner'thas the Lick King usually wield weapon and armor made of saronite; that is also why you can mine shadow from it.

Edit: In both Storm Peaks and Ice Crown will Saronite/Rich Saronite Nodes spawn. And Ice Crown has even more Saronite Nodes than that of the Basin, and they spawn even closer to each other(referring to the lore above).

Patch 8926

Kommentar von 248315

This is considered the 'Adamantite' of WotLK, and it is the most desirable ore for prospecting (Titanium cannot be prospected, like with Khorium.)

As a level 73, I've been mining a huge amount of these in Sholazar Basin by putting leveling on hold for a bit and skipping the crowds for pure mining(Sholazar is around level 75-78). In fact I've got 1100 ores in one afternoon/evening, the nodes are as common as copper, and there hasn't been too many people competing with me.

As for my level and the native beasties, the 2 warring factions in Sholazar (Think Aldor/Scryer) are both neutral to you at the start, which allows you free reign to mine in their bases without interruption. Otherwise a lot of mobs can be avoided with a mount.

In terms of where you should mine in the zone, the 'pillars' dotted around the zone usually have a few nodes clinging to them, and pretty much the entire border all the way around the zone (the mountain ridges) are covered in them.

Kommentar von 255750

Hello all, I enjoy cruising this site from time to time, and thought I could contribute my own findings. Wotlk has been out less than 2 weeks, but tons of info is coming in, some conflicting. I took one (more actually) for the team, and figured I would post my results. YMMV, its all subject to change, but here's what I got.

bloodstone 14.0%
huge citrine 15.3
sun crystal 20.7
dark jade 25.3
chalcedony 22.7
shadow crystal 13.3
scarlet ruby 3.3
monarch topaz 3.3
autumns glow 4.7
forest emerald 4.7
sky sapphire 0.7
twilight opal 5.3

These are percentages based on 150 prospects (750 ore). A couple of interesting points. 1) I got a free gem an average of every 3 prospects, hence the total of 133.3%. 2) Thanks to the free gems (sometimes 2!), the greens alone add up to 111% hehe. 3) My raw data has green gems: blue gems at roughly 5:1, so hope that extra gem every 3 prospects turns blue, it just may.

I hope this info helps, perhaps it will influence your decision on whether you prospect that stack of saronite, or simply AH it. Again, these were my results, ymmv. Happy hunting. Reiluman-Blackhand

Kommentar von 153465

This ore can be found in Sholazar Basin. The pillars and the edge of the zone are great places to mine. This mining guide has a good map that was useful to me when I was mining.

Kommentar von Janettie

I've found that the very best place to mine Saronite, even with 280% flying speed, seems to be Wintergrasp. The little zone is loaded with Saronite, and it's also great for titanium.

Kommentar von 118258

Saronite is a word derive from the clay-like mineral called saponite.

Kommentar von locriani

Saronite is a word derive from the clay-like mineral called saponite.

Actually, saronite derives its name from Yogg-Saron, one of the old gods of Azeroth who extends a tainting influence over Northrend.

Stating that saronite is derived from saponite is simply wishful speculation; Blizzard has not referenced the mineral saponite in any information that has been made available to players.

Kommentar von 227752

So, it kind of bothers me that the lore hasn't been expanded about saronite.

Not where it comes from, but how npcs have been driven mad by it, argent dawn has proclaimed it as pure evil, and yet we mine it, smelt it, and wear it like there's nothing wrong with it at all.

Am I the only person that finds that confusing?

I find it rather hard to believe that merely smelting it cleanses Yogg-Saron's essence from it.

Kommentar von funkymillah

I prospect about 100 stacks (2000 ore) every day and I average out anywhere between 75-125 rare quality gems. 80% of the times, I end up with more Forest Emeralds than any other Gem.

Kommentar von 121506

One would think wearing armor and weapons crafted of Saronite would cause you to go hopelessly insane.

Kommentar von 102865

The Mining Game

This is a game for miners, every miner should try it out, at least once.

Here is how it goes:
When you start farming Saronite ore, you can stop farming when one (1) condition is met, which is:
You have 20 Saronite Ores
or
You have 40 Saronite Ores
or
You Have 60 Saronite Ores
and so on, 80/100/120/....
So basically, you can stop farming once every stack is filled, no more no less.

Here are are 2 rules, which makes the whole game funny/annoying:

1) You must mine all the ores from the Saronite node you found, so you can't stop at 20/40/60/... if your Saronite Node still has Ores inside it.
2) You can't Delete your Saronite Ores.

WARNING: This is one helluva' Time sink, if (un)lucky

Kommentar von jostler

It appears that with the new patch 3.0.8 the Prospectability of Saronite Ore for rare gems has gone significantly down.

After prospecting a great deal, I find that I generally get 1 rare gem out of 2 stacks of Saronite Ore. This puts the rate of finding a rare gem at approximately 12.5%, which is down from the previous 25% average.

My best guess for this change is due to the new JC ability Icy Prism to make multiple rare quality gems out of 9x lower quality Northrend gems and 1x frozen orb.

*edited for link

Kommentar von 310123

Ahh ty m8,but is it more in the middle of wintergrasp or more in the mountens ?Anyway thanks gonna take a look. ;)

Kommentar von 119228

That's not what I found. I prospected ~86 Stacks (346 prospects) Saronite Ore post 3.0.8 on EU-Rexxar, and got the following results:

16 Scarlet Ruby (4,62%)
12 Autumn's Glow (3,47%)
16 Sky Sapphire (4,62%)
22 Forest Emerald (6,36%)
15 Twilight Opal (4,34%)
19 Monarch Topaz (5,49%)

That averages in a 4,82% chance to get a specific raregem via prospect. 1,16 raregems per stack overall. I will collect further data, but this already suggests that no changes were made to the prospectability of saronite ore.

Kommentar von sasexw

Just a little note to these who try to farm saronite in Icecrown
Dont bother searching the upper level of Icecrown citadel , the deposits are on the lower level and there are usually 2 to 3 deposits in there , worth trying a look.

Kommentar von 269661

i'm farming saronite in wintergrasp for gold...
Should I smelt it or not?

Kommentar von 320208

All the mobs that this site says drops saronite ore is false I tried every one of them and none of them were lootable><

Kommentar von 291540

After having farmed (and prospected) over 20,000 Saronite Ore and it seems like these probabilities are usually accurate... usually.

I must point out that there have been a few extremely unlikely occurrences that seem too far off to just be "luck".
Today I had another one of these unlikely occurrences.

Prospecting 1280 Saronite Ore (256 prospects) I got the following results

(15) Scarlet Ruby........................ 5.85%
(0) Monarch Topaz...................... 0.00%
(17) Sky Sapphire....................... 6.64%
(13) Twilight Opal........................ 5.07%
(10) Forest Emerald.................... 3.90%
(12) Autumn's Glow.................... 4.68%

Notice something strange? No Monarch Topaz at all... out of 1280 Saronite Ore, but the rest of the gems seem to occur more frequently. I'm very curious as to why these little "glitches" happen.
All of the Uncommon gems were close to 18% prospect rate as usual.

Kommentar von Loady

Believe it or not, I got Bloodstone, Scarlet Ruby AND Autumn's Glow from one prospect (5 ore). Didn't know that was possible but I sure like it.

Kommentar von 302743

Just a question... What makes more money: sell the ores, smelt the ores into bars and sell the bars, or prospect the ores? I just got my mining to 450 and not really into the mining business :) Thanks in advance.

Kommentar von 358918

Yeah, on Argent Dawn (US) I've been finding that selling the ores has been the most lucrative method lately. Not really sure why, though. By the time you're able to smelt saronite bars, the smelting doesn't give you any skill-ups on your mining, anyway (at least not for me it didn't) and most of the mid-level Lvl.80 BS recipes I've seen have called for the bars and not the ore. Perhaps JC's use it for something?

Kommentar von Heidi85

Ok, so you wanna know if it is worth prospecting Saronite?
Here you go:
a) Scan the Auction House (maybe use Actuionator + Panda, both excellent Addons)

b) Use this formula: 5x Saronite == 0,24*(MT+SR+SS+FE+AG+TO)/6 + 1,08*(SC+DJ+HC+Ch+SuC+Bl)/6
SR=Scarlet Ruby; MT=Monarch Topaz; AG=Autumn's Glow; FE=Forest Emerald; SS=Sky Sapphire; TO=Twilight Opal; SC=Shadow Crystal; DJ=Dark Jade; HC=Huge Citrine; Ch=Chalcedony; SuC=Sun Crystal; Bl=Bloodstone

c) Average Costs (left Side) lower Average Gains(right Side)? Do it! Else? Save your Gold.

PS: Formula uses the chances given by wowhead. I asume I interpret them right, so the math should be right, too.
To be more clear:
Prospecting 5 Saronite Ore gives you the chance of getting:
Either 1 or 2 random green Gems + the chance of getting 1 random blue Gem.
The chances should be:
108% of getting a random green (aka 92% of getting 1, 8% of getting 2).
24% of getting a random blue.

Kommentar von vodker

640 Saronite Ore | 128 Prospects

7x Scarlet Ruby 5.4%
9x Monarch Topaz 7.0%
8x Twilight Opal 6.2%
7x Autumns Glow 5.4%
4x Forest Emerald 3.1%
1x Sky Sapphire 0.7%

20x Sun Crstal 15.6%
32x Huge Citrine 25%
20x Chalcedony 15.6%
24x Bloodstone 18.7%
19x Dark Jade 14.8%
19x Shadow Crystal 14.8%

Kommentar von TCHJ3K

It's worth noting that, since Saronite bars vendor for 1g25s each, the AH price of Saronite ore effectively has a floor of 13g15s per stack. If you're planning on selling it for less than this then, after the AH cut of 5%, it'd be more profitable to smelt them and vendor the bars (20 Saronite ore = 10 bars @ 1g25s each = 12g50s).

If you see people selling the ores for less than this, buy them, smelt them and vendor them - you'd be surprised how many people don't look at vendor prices or don't take the AH cut into account, and just blindly try to undercut whatever's on sale at the moment.

Kommentar von mixter

i had mined about 250 ores while lvling my mining, tho my JC'ing was still a bit low, so i kept the ores thinking it would be helpfull for jcing later on

but i got bored and even my mining bag got full(despite having 31 slots) so i sold them on AH
made bout 900g in 1 hour

the lesson here? i forgot whats the lesson here but it has something to do with not prospecting and instead selling on AH, not sure tho^^

Kommentar von 342328

as for the formula, I've made a published webpage that you can tinker with (import your server's prices) and estimate your profit

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tL3aDcRkwUPf1CBPzZlevUg&output=html

good luck

feel free to make any corrections you feel necessary

Kommentar von 347360

Following this wow-professions mining guide, I mined 80 saronite ore in one trip (with random titanium spawns as well). Took about half an hour with 280% mount.

Edit: On a second trip, my total was 92 ores.

Kommentar von 387878

Got hacked and the hacker farmed me 986 of these babys :D

Kommentar von DownCast

if saronite is the blood of the old god Yogg-Saron, and he is imprisoned in Ulduar... would that imply that at least Yogg-Saron is bigger than what we originally thought? perhaps that is the reason he is in a prison rather than killed as maybe the old gods are actually a PART of Azeroth? would certainly make sense if c'thun had an ore named after him. is it possible that the old gods are actually one huge being? and that being was split when the world did? any other speculations that hint to mine or against it feel free =D

Kommentar von 512270

i find tons of saronite in icecrown but there is 1 problem all of it is either right next to an elite enemy or in the bombardment

Kommentar von 528157

buying it from AH (16g in my server) and if you are JC and prospect it, it is a nice way to make golds.

Kommentar von Eilonthay

Don't be an idiot like I was and think that you can smelt your way to 450 mining with a bunch of saronite once you hit 400. (Thankfully, I figured this out quickly.)

Because you can't. Everything's gray at that point. You should be able to, but I guess they figure that if you've got that much experience smelting, you're awesome, and don't need to attend smelting seminars anymore. Booooo. You should still get points for purifying the blood of an evil, evil Old God.

But, on the other hand, my lvl 63 DK has mining 402, so I can't really complain...I got that far, after all. The fun part will be getting the last 48 points by playing Death Frogger with ? mobs! ;3

Kommentar von 484220

just a little thing when prospecting saronite ore i sometimes find epic gems

Kommentar von saruu

One of the reasons saronite is god awful cheap now is due to the hackers/gold-farmers that get under zones and mine saronite then put it 10-20 stacks of it on the auction house undercutting massively....

Kommentar von 562821

So I'm not sure about anyone else, but as of the new patch, I'm getting 4410xp for mining saronite and 4516xp for mining titanium in Icecrown and Sholazar Basin on my 78 DK. Not that I'm complaining, but is this happening to anyone else? It's pretty cool. :)

Kommentar von bookworm13

For the best resource for determining the Cataclysm adjusted mining levels as well as the best zones to farm them in, browse through the Mineral Veins listing.

This will also give you coordinates for the vein spawns.

Teach an elf to fish...

Kommentar von 200940

400 -Saronite
425 - Rich Saronite
450 - Titanium Veins
All in Icecrown, a couple Titanium and Rich Saronite, mostly just Saronite.(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##asakawa##DELIM##

Kommentar von ghost9er9er9

I farmed saronite back in Wrath and Sholazar was the best by far. Now, however, I find Wintergrasp to be better as the veins are more frequent and there are more rich ones than Sholazar. Happy farming!

Kommentar von Kyeld

post-Cat, Wintergrasp is by far the best zone. it's typically empty, and even as a paladin with epic flying and crusader aura, I was never able to out-farm the respawn times (also, no caves in the zone to worry about and there are only a couple underwater spawn points)

an hour and a half of farming yielded:

220 x Saronite Ore
22 x Titanium Ore
176 x crystalized elements (earth, shadow, fire, air, water)
5 x blue gems
13 x green gems

Kommentar von Doometh

Just putting some data out there about prospecting in Wrath Classic.

After prospecting 50,000 ore for a total of 10,000 prospects, these were the results:

Green Gems

Dark Jade x 1879
Sun Crystal x 1873
Bloodstone x 1800
Chalcedony x 1784
Huge Citrine x 1832
Shadow Crystal x 1815

Blue Gems

Taking the average of these gives the expected rate of green gems as 18.3% and the expected rate of blue gems as 4.17%. Given the rates listed elsewhere online from back in the days of original Wrath, I think it's safe to say I got slightly lucky and the actual expected rates for green and blue gems are 18% and 4%, respectively.

Just figured I'd share since there's been no confirmation that the rates haven't changed from original Wrath and the sample size of my data is rather large.

Also, in case anyone was doing the Saronite Shuffle, I developed a formula for determining the breakeven price of Saronite Ore at which obtaining ore for any cheaper will result in a profit (assuming you do it the same way that I do it, which I've outlined below):

Green Gems

Sun Crystal >> Craft Sun Rock Ring >> Disenchant
Huge Citrine >> Craft Crystal Citrine Necklace >> Disenchant
Chalcedony >> Craft Crystal Chalcedony Amulet >> Disenchant
Dark Jade >> Craft Enduring Dark Jade >> Vendor them and the resulting Perfect Enduring Dark Jades
Shadow Crystal >> Craft Sovereign Shadow Crystal >> Vendor them and the resulting Perfect Sovereign Shadow Crystals
Bloodstone >> Craft Runed Bloodstone >> Vendor the non-perfect cuts and sell the resulting Perfect Runed Bloodstones on the Auction House

Blue Gems

Scarlet Ruby >> Sell on Auction House
Autumn's Glow >> Sell on Auction House
Monarch Topaz >> Sell on Auction House
Twilight Opal >> Craft Balanced Twilight Opal >> Sell to vendor
Sky Sapphire >> Craft Sparkling Sky Sapphire >> Sell to vendor
Forest Emerald >> Craft Dazzling Forest Emerald >> Sell to vendor

Let "dust" = market value of Infinite Dust
Let "shard" = market value of Dream Shards
Let "essence" = market value of Greater Cosmic Essences

Let "earth" = market value of Crystallized Earth

Let "SR" = market value of Scarlet Ruby
Let "AG" = market value of Autumn's Glow
Let "MT" = market value of Monarch Topaz
Let "RB" = market value of Perfect Runed Bloodstone

Breakeven Price per Ore = 0.3984 + 0.20456*dust + 0.01214*essence + 0.00074*shard + 0.0072*RB + 0.008*(SR + MT + AG) - 0.216*earth

If you have TSM installed, you can also implement this in code as such:

local function GetMarketValue(itemID)
local _,link = GetItemInfo(itemID)
return TSM_API.GetCustomPriceValue("DBMarket", TSM_API.ToItemString(link))
end

local function GetSaroniteOreBreakevenPrice()
local dust = GetMarketValue(34054)
local essence = GetMarketValue(34055)
local shard = GetMarketValue(34052)
local earth = GetMarketValue(37701)
local SR = GetMarketValue(36918)
local AG = GetMarketValue(36921)
local MT = GetMarketValue(36930)
local RB = GetMarketValue(41438)
return 0.3984 + 0.20456*dust + 0.01214*essence + 0.00074*shard + 0.0072*RB + 0.008*(SR + MT + AG) - 0.216*earth
end

Implementing it into a macro is much more difficult due to the 255 character limit, but this should work (note the printed value is in copper, so divide by 100 to express in silver or by 10,000 to express in gold; must be done mentally as this already uses all 255 characters allowed):

/run function MV(id) _,l=GetItemInfo(id) return TSM_API.GetCustomPriceValue("DBMarket",TSM_API.ToItemString(l)) end print(0.3984+0.20456*MV(34054)+0.01214*MV(34055)+0.00074*MV(34052)+0.0072*MV(41438)+0.008*(MV(36918)+MV(36930)+MV(36921))-0.216*MV(37701))

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