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Comment by yatesl

Strangely, this achievement doesn't retroactively give you the Magister's Terrace and Heroic: Magister's Terrace achievements.

Comment by 288624

True. According to Wowhead this mount has got 2% chance to see a drop past 1 run. After 2 runs it's:
0,98^2
of not seeing the drop. So:
1-(0,98^2) of seeing the drop. It's 3,96% chance. Afer 10 runs you have like 1-(0,98^10) so 18,29% chance of seeing 1 drop past 10 runs. After 100 runs u have got 1-(0,98^100) so 86,73% of seeing 1 drop past 100 runs. Many people don't understand it saying, that's drop chance is always 2%. True, but if you do something 100 times, it has got more chance do drop, than if you would do it 1 time. Logic.

Of course, you didn't have guaranteed drop. It may drop after after 1000 runs (my Windows XP calc can't count it - error appers, but its probably like 99% chance).
or it may drop on 1st run. I got pet after 2 runs (6-7% chance, we were there in 3, but its solable in good gear i think) and saw Orb of the Sin'dorei (2% chance) dropping first time. But didn't see mount. Happy farming! :)

Comment by 403169

I got this during my first run in mgt hero as a level 80 along with the orb of the sin'dorei (and I'm a blood elf o.o)

Comment by 420671

Is the drop chance high for this one? and can a enhance shammy 1man it?

Comment by 424646

Does this drop on Normal? or just Heroic?

Comment by vlaka

a dk speccd in blood and/or hybrid frost/blood can most likely solo this.
I ended up having to solo Kael after my healer died using my DK.

Comment by 351356

A dk in any spec can easily solo this... it's a month i'm farming this already , got the pet many times but never the mount.All you need is a wise use of army on 2nd and 3rd boss and then your spec doesn't really matter.I started doing this in unholy spec with tank gear on but since i've now a proper blood tank spec i found out blood spec+dps gear is the best way to go since it turns from a slow and boring run to an insanely fast,but intense, one.

Comment by 204793

i solo this heroic in bear form... the only hard is KAEL

drop the mount in first try XD

Comment by 301289

1 try on my pally tank (soloed) and 3 tries on priest with warrior friend and today this mount is finally main but I have been in MGT every single day in TBC from the day it started and back then I saw it only once to drop.
They should shorten the Kael's speach...

Comment by 39713

Anyone else noticed how the icon on this achievement actually is the icon of the Swift Green Hawkstrider? Quite odd if you ask me :)

Comment by 657814

can a demonology lock in tier 8 raid solo this

Comment by 140328

I can solo Heroic MgT with a fresh 85 rogue. My avg ilvl is 292 last i checked, have about 87k HP and 5200 AP. Some of the mobs (the mana wyrm spam before second boss comes to mind) will give you a beating, but bring food and maybe a few potions and you'll be fine.

Comment by taurolyon

Level 85 Mount Solo Farming
This method utilizes speed over kills, but will still reward you with several gold from boss drops and necessary trash kills. All bosses will need to be killed for access to Kael'thas Sunstrider

First hallway:
Stick to the center and only veer to one side should the 2 pathers approach you. At the end of the hallway, just stick to the center and you will not aggro the last 4 mobs unless there is an Imp pet blocking the way, in which case you need to kill, distract (rogue), or bypass (stealth, Heroic Leap, aggro then shadowmeld/vanish, etc.) the mobs.

Opium Den and Selin Fireheart
Selin Fireheart is linked with the wretched in this room, but not vice-versa. Aggroing him will pull the entire room. So, you have two options: AoE Everything, boss included, or clear the room first, then fight the boss. I would only recommend the first if you have a good health pool, self-healing, and/or good AoE abilities.
5-7 of the wretched are casters that shoot frost and arcane bolts, which you can line-of-sight them to the top platform by kiting the boss to the crystal in the back of the room, while the rest are melee, and will attack you next to the boss. @85, the boss is basically a tank-and-spank melee fight and will periodically run to the closest crystal and absorb it's power, gaining an attack bonus. During the absorption phase, the boss will not be attacking you.

Mana Wrym Hallway
These mobs do an arcane nova effect on death, so killing a large quantity of these mobs without knowing what effect they will have on your health pool is not advised. You can pull 1 or 2 packs at a time with ranged abilities. Periodically, a Blood Elf will enter the hallway carrying an energy cube. He/She will stop in the middle of the hallway, levitate the cube into the air, and all the mana worms will converge on it. This mob has a larger health pool than the mana wyrms and can be used to spread damage over time effects (such as Seed of Corruption, a Warrior's , or Death Knight Diseases) to all of the mana wyrms.

Vexallus
@85 is to use single target abilities on the boss to prevent the Energy Feedback from killing the adds from stacking up too high and killing you. (300 DPS may not sound like much, but it can stack up to 10 times during the fight!) Boss will summon 2 Pure Energy adds at 85%, 70%, 55%, 40%, and 25% health points. (FYI: If every add was killed during the fight, you would be taking 30,000 arcane damage per second for 30 seconds (equaling 900K damage taken), and have a +500% attack bonus for 30 seconds) This boss can be a bit of a DPS race.

Sunwell Overlook
Make your way into the sunwell overlook where you will find 2 large mechanical. @85, these have a very very short aggro range, and you can simply avoid them by hugging the edges of the hallway. this will lead you to the lower terrace.

Lower Terrace
This essentially becomes a game of Frogger at this point. There is a Blood Elf pather that will go from one end of the room, follow half the circle in the center, go to the other end of the room, then path back using the other side of the circle. Avoid him and stay in the center of the path to avoid the mob packs.
The next room has a large mechanical pather that is easily avoided. You can proceed to Priestess Delrissa's crew straight away as they are not linked with the rest of the room.

Priestess Delrissa
@85, AoE is the name of the game here. (If you're a Warrior... Stack with Bladestorm and win!) Also be sure to have any stun/fear breaking abilities off cool-down, just in case. Focus on the healer classes (Apoko/Eramas Brightblaze) first, if they are up.

Proceed to the final boss room...
You will need to kill the group of 5 mobs here. Await the end of Kael'thas Sunstrider's speech, then...

Kael'thas Sunstrider
@85, He will basically stand there and spam-cast Fireball. Blow any damage increasing cool-downs at the beginning of the fight. You need to beat him down to 50% as quickly as possible to avoid him casting Shock Barrier and Pyroblast. Ignore the Phoenix add.
Once at 50%, he will cast Gravity Lapse. Here you want to use any ranged abilities you may have, kiting the large energy orbs away from him, and then sneaking back in for a few swings, but stay just above the ground. Do not land back on the ground unless you want him to throw you back up into the air. If you have a good self-heal ability, you can stay in the orbs for a little bit.
Once downed, the orbs will vanish and you will fall back to the earth (so some possible fall damage here). Small speech, enjoy your loots, and good luck on your mount!

Your experience may very, but it took me 35 attempts on my warrior to get the mount, and the achievement is not awarded until you use the item.

edit: spell links

Comment by 345030

At 85 you can pretty much walk straight through the instance and skip everything if you're careful.

The only mobs you really need to kill are the ones around Selin Fireheart (who are linked to him and will aggro if you don't kill them before engaging him) and the final pack of mobs in front of Kael'thas himself. If you have good AOE you can just ignore them and go straight for the boss - as a protection paladin it was quicker for me to just burn them down while attacking the boss. Also, if you leave the mobs at Kael'thas alone, you can attack him immediately instead of waiting for his speech to finish.

You'll probably aggro the mana wyrms in the hallway after Selin, but they die in a couple of AOEs anyway. The floating mana wyrms in the room before Vexallus won't aggro if you just run straight past them and avoid the patrol at ground level. Other than that, mobs have tiny aggro ranges when you're 85 so you should easily be able to avoid all the trash.

Start to finish, it took me pretty much dead on ten minutes from entering the instance to zoning out at the end. Not bad for a big chunk of Shattered Sun rep, a bunch of vendor trash epics from the bosses, and a chance at a rare mount and a pet.

Comment by Blondina

Got the Mount & the Achievment April 5th. The achievment is listed under Feats of Strength. Anyone know if u can still get the Mount but not the Achievment?

Comment by 321678

Got this one yesterday on my pally. Took me a total of 2 runs. RNG is a harsh lady, but once in a while she smiles upon us.

Comment by 878860

Can anyone confirm or disconfirm if the drop rate has increased on this one since cata? I've run it twice since cata's release, and both times the mount dropped. Yes, I know how RNG works, and maybe it was just a crazy amount of luck.

Comment by Melyldya

i guess im lucky today :) got the mount on my first heroic run :)

Comment by 422324

Strangely, this achievement doesn't retroactively give you the Magister's Terrace and Heroic: Magister's Terrace achievements.

I'm not sure I follow the logic of this post as to why its strange that achievements are give retroactively nor why its rated so high. I know this post was a couple of patches ago but I don't think that you could ever be in a situation where you could receive this achievement before completing and .

1st. You must do the quest line (Aldor) or (Scryer) which entails completing Magisters' Terrace on normal which grants .

2nd. You can now enter the instance on heroic mode for and kill Kaelthas Sunstrider which grants you when he dies.

3rd. You can then loot Kaelthas Sunstrider's corspe for a chance to get a which either by looting or using the item (I don't remember which it is.) grants you the feat of strength. Nothing should happen retroactively that I know of.

Its also rumored that now drops from a (short supply reward from the Dungeon Finder) which might create a situation of getting the mount before the dungeon achievements, but why would it grant Magisters' Terrace Achievements if they haven't been completed?

Comment by ffwd

Droprate: Took me 28 runs to get the mount.

Full clear: AoE almost everything including the Priestess with her gang, remember to use LoS if you pull big packs, and beware of the anti-magic shield if you are a caster class. You get exalted with SSO after several runs so I started speed running it.

Speedrun on 85: You can skip almost all the trash in the dungeon except the wretched in Selin's room, they all aggro as soon as you engage the boss. I prefer pulling them all, break LoS and AoE them down. Rest of the trash can be skipped including the pack right before Kael (which also saves you time on his bragging speech). Beware though they might aggro in phase 2 of the fight.

Other benefits: lots of JC recipes from exalted rep (obsoleted by now, but if you are a completionist...), Phoenix Hatchling, Orb of the Sin'dorei, 20 Slot Bag (can drop from any mob in the dungeon) and lots of recipes for all professions.

Comment by Zanno

Took me running this instance everyday for 2 months (as 85 solo) before I finally got this. Then a few days later I was boosting my girlfriends lv 66 DK through a few heroics, including this. Dropped for her the first time she set her foot in there.

Comment by 900996

Heroic MgT is very easy to solo on an 85 SP. This dropped on my 16th try (last night), and I felt extremely lucky! I know some who have tried for almost a year now, and it still has yet to drop. The only irritating moment after the first time, is at the end listening to Kael'thas...after 16 times on Heroic (and countless on normal for the Phoenix Hatchling which still has yet to drop), I've memorized it...it is in my nightmares... :)

Comment by Noraesine123

Yesterday, i realized that for the past couple of months, I have been killing Al'ar , expecting Ashes of Al'ar to drop ... When they actually drop off of Kael'thas. After trying to kill Kael, i was terribly dissapointed, and sat in Org. I then saw a trustee guildy link the pheonix hatchling! I thought, hey! Why not go run MT? I loved that place back in Burning Crusade and Wrath! So as i lol'd and facerolled everything in MT, it came to Kael. I shot a few Arcane Blasts, and Frost Bombs, and he was dead. On my FIRST FARMING RUN, The Swift White Hawkstrider, and the Phoenix Hatchling DROPPED. God bless for making my shame release from all those countless TK runs, and bless me with this glorious mount. :) It's BEAUTIFUL and WORTH THE FARM. Especially when you level an alt, people will have all these noob mounts, when you can have this beautiful swan thing! Thank you for reading.

Comment by Taalmisbruik

Got this one today after 2 attempts. On the same day as I got raven lord :D.

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