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Comentario de Bloodsword

This is the hot version of circle of healing. It works sort of like a backwards hot. However being that it has a limited number of applicants I think I would be more situationally used then CoH.

Comentario de docseuzz

do we know if the healing decreases over time... or the time between ticks... the text could be interpreted either way....

Comentario de 176323

Can ne1 confirm the mechanic of this spell. Does the 4410 healing apply to each target or to the targets collectively.

If it is for each target then this does more healing on a single target than the priests greater heal and for less mana. https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=48063. Therefore i can only assume it is collectively ie 450 each target but still need confirmation.

Comentario de 133471

According to the formula given at "http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Plus_damage_and_Plus_healing#Area_of_effect_spells ", which is (Duration of Spell / 15) = Total, this spell should benefit from 47% of your bonus healing.

So if you have 2000 +healing, this spell would heal 4410+940 over 7 sec.

However this is only a guess and this spell might also be effected by "Area of effect spells" formula, and blizz might change spell damage and healing coefficient in WotLK (since "spell power" is coming into use).

But still this spell is one of the greatest healing spells.

Comentario de 169612

Its hard to kill a restoration druid in arena this days , although druids survive with 3 lifebloom , reju and swiftmend , at 80 , add Flourish , https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=50464 and Improved tree form wich grants 100 % bonus armor , bottom line , Resto druid will be unkillable

Comentario de 179084

There are seven ticks,

there is datas for lvl 1 Flourish

436+399+361+324+286+249+211

Comentario de darkkeijp

I hope the mana cost is still beta?

Comentario de 169612

Isn't 32 % of base mana alot ?

Comentario de 170325

if it was applied a little at first and more at the end this would be good for when the enrage timer hits in. laso its kinda a healing CoA excuse the bad comparison and any spelling mistakes plz.

Comentario de 168391

So let's consider the most equivalent spell around, circle of healing. At max rank. The both affected 5 targets and are both instant.

Now for one flourish you can cast more or less 5 CoT (with some haste rating). 5 CoT cost 105% of base mana, when flourish only cost 32%. Then with one flourish you have a total of 4410 healing, for more or less 3500 with 5 CoT. + after you have applied Flourish you have time to cast other spell, when you have to spawn CoT during those 7 seconds.

Now let's make the same calculation with 2000+ healing.

Flourish should have 47% so it reach, 5500 over 7 seconds.

CoT have 21% at the moment. So it's 420 more per cast. Total of 5600.

I'm not taking in consideration any talents here. And they might affected those spells a lot. I think that priest talent will probably increase more the CoT spells, but not much more.

So after those little calculations Flourish seems too win the fight between those two AoE healing.

Only time will tell, if it'S really better.

Edit : Just to clarify things, i'm not complaining about druid being overpowered or anything. Priest also get their overpower spells in WotlK.

Eretor

Comentario de Meringue

Resto is utterly dominating the other healers in Naxxramas parses, don't expect it to remain as it is.

Comentario de Xokati

In my opinion its overpowered, look at priest coh and compare healing done, time to cast dissame amount of heal, mana cost.

Comentario de 34882

Appears to have been nerfed as of the latest beta build 8962. Now does 1085 over 7 seconds vs the old 4410 over 7 seconds.

Comentario de 94791

The original version was certainly too good, but this is just pathetic. Druids are already struggling for a raid spot, and this doesn't help the cause.

Comentario de 92836

On the latest EU PTR with ~1300 healing spellpower (iirc) and a decent tree spec, I used this new 'talent' and it managed to do 1400 healing over 7 seconds for a cost of around 700 mana, that's about 10 HPM on a full 5-man heal.

From my current raiding experience in SWP I can see that this will just be overwritten by other healers without them even noticing it's there, one quick 2k+ CoH crit and it's like 'Wild Growth' never existed.

Comentario de kabeen

ok what if there are, lets say, 15 ppl within the 15yd of the target - which 5 will get the heal? The ones with least HP? The ones that haven't got the buff already? I don't really like the idea of healing 5 ppl, but dont really know which ones. Just wondering if its so imba in practise as well :)

Comentario de 202718

So, what's the verdict? I think someone mentioned that this spell got buffed, but did it? And how well? How useful is it now?

Comentario de 109170

This will be aggro hell. i don't think a druid should cast it too often or else he might pull even the best warriors mob

Comentario de 196405

This spell does seem to heal those with the least amount of HP first. (as long as they are in range of course) Awesome for melee healing, but great for caster groups as well. Don't know how I ever managed without it.

Thanks Blizz

Comentario de Athene

I tested this in bg yesterday.
- Any player will only be affected by 1 Wild Growth, so you can't stack it on anyone.
- You can keep several Wild Growth's up at the same time. At most I was healing 15 players at the same time. In theory you could heal 20 people(4 casts, 4 GCD=6 sec atleast, HoT lasts 7 sec), but then you would have to be very, very quick to apply it.
- With 800 spell pwr the rank 2 spell heals for about 390 at first and then stops at about 290 per tick.
- It heals any raid members close, not just people in party with the target.

It's a very, very powerful healing spell, and it's actually become my #1 healing spell in raids and pvp. It's not only great because it's a HoT on up to 5 people at a time, not only because it's very mana efficient, not only because it's instant cast, but olso because it will move around with the target and become a healing aura. I often place it on myself if there's alot of action around me, and then I place it on warriors, paladins and other tough players in the front. There's not much use putting it on a player that will soon die, so I try to put it on those that will take, and can survive, heavy damage.
It's really great on all bosses where there's alot of raid damage, like Void Reaver, Mother Shahrahz etc.

Comentario de wolf

In patch 3.0.8, Wild Growth gains a 6 seconds cooldown.

Dosn't affect me much, as I don't "spam" it.

to anyone that reads this, please rate negatively on my comment (that's right, this one here that i'm typing), but i would just like to take the time to tell you that nobody cares. not only is your comment the perfect example of "redundant" - and we all know that when you hover your cursor over a negative rating button, the tooltip says "Poor/redundant" in lovely red letters - but you also decided to include a little tidbit of info about you and how you don't spam it. of course, it always helps to wrap spam in quotes to make yourself seem aloof, implying that you're one of few that don't spam as if that makes you high and mighty. why do you think they're adding the cooldown, anyways? maybe because it was incredibly effective to spam it on several groups of players in a raid during heavy area-of-effecting pressure?

just a hunch.

Comentario de 96283

Someone used the word cooldown too loudly and Blizz heard us. Wild Growth and CoH will get 6sec cd on patch 3.0.8. acording to Testrealm patch notes
/cry
Loetheb healing will be little bit trickier now.

Comentario de 156239

Anyone on PTR know if 5/5 Gift of the Earthmother reduces the 6 sec CD by 1.2 seconds or has it been changed/removed from that tooltip? (20% of 6 seconds = 1.2 seconds)

Comentario de 210079

It is confirmed that Wild Growth will get a 6 second cooldown within the upcmoming patch 3.0.8

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html

Comentario de 273844

I have an 80 Resto Tauren druid and putting a 6 sec. cooldown on the only thing I do in raids is messed up. Well... I guess I could try to heal...darn....

Comentario de 291900

This spell is quite good, the only drawback is that it sometimes heals pets over players

Comentario de 291900

Next patch when this has a 6sec cd, and baring that the talents GoTEM, living seed and replenish aren't that good when you think about it. This build comes to mind:

build

your thoughts please.

(Note: those talents in balance are your own choice, i like to quest a bit on the side too, for instance you can take 3/3 in celestial focus.)

Comentario de 173392

Wild growth or WG for short is still a very nice spell... but mostly for 5mans (heroics) and 10mans.

In 25man raids you will often find yourself wondering why this spell got a 6second cooldown when the other healers (other then druid) let loose an explosion of direct AOE heals after WG gets in 1-2ticks. (Pop the bubblies if you see it get 3 ticks in, its a special day and the other healers are slacking.)

When stuff goes wrong it might still safe some lives, but in the end one would expect a 51 point talent bring more to the table as it does now. Maybe Blizzard intended this to be the use for WG, post-heroics that is, but in my experience its very lackluster for a 6sec cooldown 51 talent point spell. I still stay specced for it though as their are very few alternatives. I never needed to spam it in any raid before the nerf and never did, but spending the free GCDs and mana I had left over was nice when the possibility presented itself.

But when still doing doing 5man/10man (heroics) its a very nice tool to add to your arsenal.*When* it gets to run even 6 seconds it delivers a very nice amount of healing. By the time your doing 25mans you will notice yourself saving it more and more for spikes and less for raidhealing when other healers are around with decent short cooldown direct AOE healing.

Comentario de 113317

Does it just heal the closest 4 people to the target? Or does it go for the people who need it most?

Comentario de 337161

Im a Healing Touch specced Resto Druid so my hots arent my main force of healing, especially if your HT is hitting 11k noncrit. However this is probably my 3rd best healing spell. In 10mans I am healing the main tank while the priest is healing the raid with AoE heals... but im still using a WG/HT combo with LB, Rejuv, and RG never touched. (Nourish maybe every so often but whatev) Im very glad blizz made this spell! Its somewhat a lifesaver.

Comentario de Delvara

Don't criticize me if both of these builds are stupid... please.

I am trying to figure out which one would be better for 5 mans, and then better for 25 mans.

This or This.

I'm fairly new to the ways of druid healing.

Comentario de 133066

My throw at a summay for all you need to know about this spell:

Formula:
(Cast Time of Spell / 3.5) / 2 = Benefit
Since this is an instant cast spell it would be a benefit of 1.5/3.5/2 = ~.214 or 21.4% coefficient.

Glyph: Available after the Ulduar patch.
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=45602

Comentario de 318579

For those who are interested in the "proc chance" breakdown of Revitalize with Wild Growth, here it is.

Assuming maximum Revitalize rank.
chance of at least 1 proc on 1 person: 67.94229117% (1-((1-0.15)^7))
chance of at least 1 proc on 5 person: 14.47530465% ((1-((1-0.15)^7))^5)

This lists the chance for Revitalize to happen when using wild growth. Further breakdowns can be extrapolated.

Comentario de 356325

gives 8 energy when it is applied to you

Comentario de Moethetroll

to sum this up:
This is great heal, it does alot of healing and it heals the lowest hp people. It is a "smart" heal spell.
It is a HoT.
i am a druid in mostly naxx 10 gear and 1700 sp unbuffed: it heals for 671 the first tic and loses about 10% effectiveness on all the next ones.
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=45602 helps this spell alot.

Comentario de Krume

Wish this spell would work on the person you cast it on.
In 25man raids with everyone at full hp I usually cast Rejuvenation + Wild Growth on the tank before a pull for Revitalize however most of the time Wild Growth is never applied to the tank instead it picks 5-6 random raid members that are at full hp.
I would have thought that when casting it on someone at least one of those 5-6 targets would be the person I cast it on whether that person is at full hp or not.

Comentario de tony7t2

Just a quick "did you know?" from a Priest:

CoH is castable on mobs, not just players. Handy for the melee dps types who have to be clustered around said mobs.
I'm guessing WG has the same functionality...

Comentario de 146119

The description says that it heals "up to 5 friendly party or raid members." Does this mean that there is a chance that even if there are 5 or more people who need heals that it will only work on 2,3,or 4 of them? I ask because I've noticed in 5 man runs when I myself am not at full health, I cast this on the tank and I don't get the heal.

Comentario de 331656

No, if there are 5 party or raid members within range, it will always heal 5 of them. The spell is worded that way to make it clear that the spell will not heal non party/raid members if there are fewer than 5 party/raid members aound.

Most needed or rather anything with the lowest hp%.

That is incorrect for patch 3.1.3. It may have been a smart heal at one time, but right now, WG and CoH are both "dumb" AoEs with 6s CDs, the resto shammys out there felt WG and CoH were stepping on CH's toes. One of the implications of this, as Krume pointed out above, is that the target of WG is not always healed. After casting the spell on the target, five party or raid members within fifteen yards are chosen at random to recieve the healing, the initial target of the spell is not necessarily one of those five!

This is still an extremely useful spell, unfortunately, the nerfs both WG and CoH have taken still leave resto shammys as the raid healers of choice.

Comentario de 175392

It seems as if you are using this spell while targeting a dead enemy you will get the error message "Your target is dead" and no one will be healed. This is utterly frustrating before you manage to figure out why this spell simply fails you from time to time. At least it's easily taken care of with a simple macro looking something like this:
#showtooltip
/cleartarget
/cast Wild Growth

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Crecimiento salvaje

Crecimiento salvaje

Talento

23% del maná base	Alcance de 40 m

Instante	6 seg de reutilización

Sana [206 * 7 * ((((1))))] p. a un máximo de 5 miembros del grupo o banda amistosos en un radio de 15 m del objetivo durante 7 sec. La cantidad sanada se aplica con rapidez al principio y va disminuyendo a medida que Crecimiento salvaje surte efecto.

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Crecimiento salvaje	Magia

Sana 206 p. de daño cada 1 s.
7 segundos restantes

Detalles de hechizos

Duración

7 segundos

Escuela

Naturaleza

Mecanica

n/d

Tipo de disipación

Magia

Categoría GCD

Normal

Costo

23% del maná base

Rango

40 metros (Long)

Tiempo de lanzamiento

Instante

Reutilización

6 segundos

GCD

1.5 segundos

Efecto #1

Apply Aura: [Periodic Heal]
Valor: 206 cada 1 segundo (Mod. SP : 0.115)
Radio: 15 metros
Multiplicador JcJ: 1

Efecto #2

Apply Aura: [Dummy]
Radio: 15 metros
Multiplicador JcJ: 1
Acción del lado del servidor

Efecto #3

Dummy
Valor: 6
Multiplicador JcJ: 1
Acción del lado del servidor

Banderas

No puede ser utilizado mientras se este cambiado de forma
No requiere cambio de forma
[DoT Stacking Rule]
[Aura Never Bounces]
[Not On Trivial]
[Vehicle Immunity Category]

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