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Comentario de frmorrison

This talent's scaling on Shadow Bolt makes it the best scaling spell from gear improvements, getting 105.7 of +damage every 2.5 seconds, and is affected by the improved Shadow Bolt talent, Curse of Shadows, and Shadow Priest debuffs.

In fact, this talent makes SB so good that those Locks with this talent just spam Shadow Bolt and then use some curse for best damage output, since fire spells do not scale so well.

Comentario de Nayson

This talent makes your main nukes scale better with your gear. If you take 5/5 Shadow & Flame then:

Shadowbolt gets 105.7% of your spellpower (up from 85.7% untalented)
Incinerate gets 91.4% of your spellpower (up from 71.4% untalented)

Comentario de 20552

I tried to find a build that would give me the most damage from my shadowbolts. The 2 main talents that affect this are shadow mastery and Shadow and flame, here is the maths comparing the effects of the 2 different talents (Note I have not included the 15% extra shadow damage that u could get if u got Demonic Sacrifice and saced your Succubus for flexibility sake, not everyone wants to sac their pet).

The following maths assumes u will be using one of the following builds as a base(or a variant):
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/talent=IZZtE0tr0zhhi if u were getting Shadow and Flame
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/talent=Ii0ri0fkVZZxx0tr0z if u were getting Shadow Mastery
Basically both have ruin, bane and improved shadowbolt.

there are 3 cases relating to Shadow Mastery either (Case 1) it adds 10% damage after spell damage or (Case 2) it adds 10% to the spell coefficient, this is according to http://www.wowwiki.com/Shadow_Bolt "Shadow and Flame and Shadow Mastery will increase the amount of shadow spell damage that applies to the spell by 20% and 10% respectively at max rank." or case 3 the 10% extra spell damage is applied before spell damage is added, i think this is the least likely case and have not included it.

On the top row we can see damage dealt by rank 11 shadowbolt with Shadow Mastery.
On the second row we can see damage dealt by rank 11 shadowbolt with Shadow and Flame.
==Case 1==
~With 500 spell damage~
572 + (500 * 1.057) = 1100.5
*1.1 = 1100.55

~With 728 spell damage(the current amount I have unbuffed, no fel armor)~
572 + (728 * 1.057) = 1341.496
*1.1 = 1315.4856

~With 1000 spell damage
572 + (1000 * 1.057) = 1629
*1.1 = 1571.9

==Case 2==
~With 500 spell damage~
572 + (500 * 1.057) = 1100.5
572 + (500 * 0.957) = 1050.5

~With 728 spell damage (the current amount I have unbuffed, no fel armor)~
572 + (728 * 1.057) = 1341.496
572 + (728 * 0.957) = 1268.696

~With 1000 spell damage
572 + (1000 * 1.057) = 1629
572 + (1000 * 0.957) = 1529

As we can see, in both cases, Shadow and Flame will yield better damage than Shadow Mastery(also note this is purly for shadowbolts and does not include damage delt by corruption etc).

Comentario de 242035

Forever Shadow Bolt spam <3.

For xx/21/xx with S&F:

- Sacc Succubus for max-burstdps and if you don't have mana problems;
- Sacc Felhunter for steady dps and infinite mana w/o Life Tap (and also a decent dps increase via the less usage of Life Tap).

Get Spelldamage > Critchance > Spirit > Intellect gear.

- Turn the TV on and raid while watching it, spamming 1 key.

Comentario de 267194

Wont u be using incinerate more then shadow bolt?

Comentario de 316099

Given the talents name, you would think that it would effect Shadowflame :P

Comentario de sessh

This talent increases spell damage coefficient by 20%, that means multiplicative, not a flat 20%. The coefficient of Incinerate is 71.42%, with this talent it increases to 71.42% * 1.2 = 85.71%

It's NOT 91.42%. It might have been that case before, but if so, it's changed now.

This was tested and confirmed in 3.1.1.

Comentario de 133739

Sorry for the dumb question but i am kinda new with warlocks. First: Is it worth getting that for PvP mode (or should i say "Does PvP gear scale good with this talent")? If it worths, is it worth getting it early in the PvP progression, or spec into something else until you get better PvP gear? Thank you.

Tuddles!

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