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Comentario de Alisdair

This talent can be somewhat useful when soloing. But is overall not that useful since you have to actually kill the target with your Drain Soul. There's much better ways to use your talent points.

Comentario de 8888_

One problem with the kill part…

Should you be in a raid, there is a very minimal chance that you will receive the mana back because there are 39 other people that can get the killing blow.

Comentario de 34570

I'm one of the few locks who really likes this talent.

I'm a ruin/affliction lock, and it isn't just great for soloing it's also great for group stuff

how many times hav eyou said to yourself "hmmm, maybe i shouldn't cast a shadow bolt on this Mob, he's almost dead, my dots and the warrior/ whoever else will finish him...or hsould i he has x life..hmmm"

that situation is now instead an OPPORTUNITY
let a shadow bolt fly at that sucker, knowing it'll good and kill him, and slap your purple beam on him while it's in flight. Suddenly you're awarded enough mana to cast 3 more shadow bolts.

. when i run Underbog, I proc this thing 2-3 times per pull.

that's almost 3600 mana, that i get MID fight at no expense of life or pet mana

and it isn't just about the raw amount of mana you get, it's about ....the change in your play style it opens up when you gain mana by throwing shadowbolts, not lose it.

if you're going to use this you have to use it right, and i'm not sure how well it would work if you don't have some destro points, to make your shadow bolts fast and heavy, but if you know what you're doing this is a very cool talent.

not to mention the 10% threat reduce on afflic

Comentario de 46812

I don't like this talent so much, because I don't have any downtime with ma imp out using dark pact, so it seems to me very weak for an affliction lock.

Comentario de 67683

use DS right before the target dies and this will seriously lessen your downtime, at lvl 21 and 1.3k mana this does about 180 or so mana which helps alot and in most 1v1 circumstances at that level will be all the mana you use for the fight...very solid talent for 2 points and will be just that more helpful with the more mana you have

Comentario de 63881

This talent is also very useful if you lack a Paladin in your group. Mages and Locks have to be weary of their threat, and a 10% reduction is a great bonus to the already stunning effect of this 2 point talent.

Comentario de EvilElpay

This is a PVE only talent. You only need this talent if you are on of the top damaging dps that is pulling way too much threat even after salvation and soulshatter. As a warlock with 1K spell damage getting too much threat isn't that hard. Of course, unless you are this high on damage you can safely skip this talent as the mana regen is only beneficial to those who are leveling.

Remember, 10% less threat reduction = 10% more damage you can squeeze in without pulling aggro. So 2 points for 10% more damage is amazing. If you are not pulling aggro this talent is worthless to you.

Comentario de 34638

Great to have as a destructo-lock, any shred of extra mana you can get is good, especially since Blizz now reduced cataclysm from 10% to 5% mana reduction cost.

Comentario de clavarnway

I really like how they redesigned this talent. It has one function (Mana return) that really helps in leveling/solo play, and they have one thing (10% less threat for Affliction) that really helps in group play. In that regard, it kinda reminds me of alot of the better Druid talents - they affect multiple things, like Cat form, Bear form, turning feral stats into healing, etc.

Comentario de Nivrax

Although its not written on description, you won`t gain mana if target can`t give shard (you can`t regain mana by draining a grey mob/player).

Let DoTs and pet do the killing damage and use low rank of Drain Soul to maximize mana gain.

Also, use addon (like Necrosis) that will automaticly destroy unwanted shards, there is nothing worse than bag with 50 Soul Shards that you have to manually delete...

Comentario de 146819

Unfortunately, as the tooltip for Mana Feed says (or, rather, doesn't say), the mana you get back through this won't restore your pet's mana.

Comentario de 174598

I had gotten myself an Abyssal Bag (32 slot soul bag) just to have all the damned shards I get from Drain Soul in one spot. So far I haven't needed a drink or bite since I got it.

Can't wait to get Siphon Life too!

Comentario de 140772

Could some macromanic post one to remove shards from bags (like 10 at time). 32 slots full all times annoys a bit and one by one deleting aint solution.

Edit.. Im 22lvl, not 80. so thats why it annoys.

Comentario de Chrome166

This talent does indeed proc if your minion gets the killing blow. I double checked my combat log to verify.

Comentario de ZerXonE

For those with the same question as Humme, this is a macro you can use to delete your shards:

/run i="Soul Shard"d=GetItemCount(i)-12 for x=0,4 do for y=1,GetContainerNumSlots(x) do if (d>0) then l=GetContainerItemLink(x,y) if l and GetItemInfo(l)==i then PickupContainerItem(x,y) DeleteCursorItem() d=d-1 end end end end

Change the first number, 12, to what you want your minimum shard count to be. The macro will delete your shards, but also make sure you wont go below that amount.

Comentario de Albo125

Note that this does NOT count if the target is killed by ANYTHING else than you, including party members or your own demon.

Comentario de wowmate

Target killed by you must yields experience or honor to gain mana.
If no soul shard returns, no mana gain.

Comentario de Thottbot

Say in a pvp battle u know u got guy dead.. alot of times u exhust ure mana.. this would work well with my current build]

SL 20/21/0

I had detruct tree.. IMO 2 instant shots arent worth wearing paper armor.. Althou there ARE was to avoid being hit. Destruct tree is definatly crzy dmg.. but SL with shadow gear dishes out same or more dmg (consistant) but u loose instant dmg controll

Comentario de Thottbot

im destro, and the better gear i have the more often the fight looks like this:

pop dmg trinket
cast shadowbolt
shadowbolt crit
cast shadowbolt
drain soul
shadowbolt crit
soul leech heals me for 2*700
gain 1350 mana from imp drain life

mob never touches me

mana efficient fighting eh?
:)

Comentario de Kanariya

Two important notes about this talent in regards to leveling: First, it requires you to land the killing blow with Drain Soul to proc. It will not proc if your pet or anyone else lands the killing blow. If you're in a group, you'll rarely ever see this talent proc.

Second, the mana regen is based off of your Spirit. If you have a low amount of Spirit (esp if you've spec'd into ), you won't get much mana back at all.

Proc spell: Drenar alma

Comentario de vicioushunter

OK so what is the thought process on this one? If you are wanding at the end of a mob health you might be close to (or have started) your 5 second regen timer. If you cast a 55 mana drain soul, you stop the ticks and restart that timer at 50% until 5 seconds after your drain soul to start getting a bonus totaling 200% mana regen. If your pet or your group gets the killing blow you don't get any regen boost (add a macro to call pet back for solo).

Warlocks get 8 + (spirit / 4) mana per tick (2sec). Say you get 48 spirit around level 20. If you do not cast a spell when the monster dies and you start fighting a new monster after finishing casting a spell in 14 seconds you will have regened 140 mana. In the same example, if you cast drain soul 3 seconds before the monster dies you will lose 55 mana. You will regenerate 10 mana at 50% regeneration over 2 seconds. You will regenerate 160 mana at 100% increased regeneration over 8 seconds. You will regenerate a further 40 mana at regular rate. Total gained 210 mana minus 55 spent on drain soul gives net profit of 155 mana if cast 3 seconds before monster dies. If drain soul is cast at exactly the moment the monster dies the numbers are -55 + 25 + 100 + 40 = 110 mana. Compare to 140 mana naturally and you have two wasted talent points IMO. If you time it exactly 5 seconds from when the monster dies and have enough dots you might get an extra shadow bolt or corruption, but since wands are so good if you keep them up to date the talents are better else where.

Comentario de BruhMoment768

Its effect of restoring 15% mana only triggeres if the mob is capable of dropping a Soul Shard, meaning you cannot kill a gray mob or critter to regain mana.

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Drenar alma mejorado

Drenar alma mejorado

Talento

Devuelve el 15% de tu nivel de maná máximo si matas al objetivo mientras drenas su alma. Además, tus hechizos de aflicción generan un 20% menos de amenaza.

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Efecto #1

Apply Aura: [Dummy] (18)
Valor: 100
Multiplicador JcJ: 1
Acción del lado del servidor
Hechizos affectados:

	Drenar alma		Drenar alma		Drenar alma
	Drenar alma		Drenar alma		Drenar alma

Efecto #2

Apply Aura: [Modifies Threat] (2)
Valor: -20%
Multiplicador JcJ: 1
Hechizos affectados:

	Corrupción	Maldición de la fatalidad	Drenar vida
	Drenar vida	Maldición de debilidad	Drenar vida
	Maldición de agonía	Maldición de agonía	Maldición de debilidad
	Drenar alma	Maldición de los Elementos	Maldición de las lenguas
	Drenar maná	Aullido de terror	Miedo
	Maldición de debilidad	Miedo	Miedo
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	Maldición de agonía	Corrupción	Corrupción
	Espiral de la muerte	Maldición de debilidad	Corrupción
	Drenar vida	Drenar alma	Drenar alma
	Corrupción	Corrupción	Drenar alma
	Drenar vida	Drenar vida	Maldición de debilidad
	Maldición de debilidad	Maldición de agonía	Maldición de agonía
	Maldición de agonía	Maldición de las lenguas	Maldición de los Elementos
	Maldición de los Elementos	Espiral de la muerte	Espiral de la muerte
	Aullido de terror	Corrupción	Corrupción
	Drenar alma	Maldición de agonía	Drenar vida
	Drenar vida	Espiral de la muerte	Maldición de debilidad
	Maldición de los Elementos	Semilla de corrupción	Maldición de debilidad
	Maldición de la fatalidad	Corrupción	Corrupción
	Semilla de corrupción	Semilla de corrupción	Drenar alma
	Drenar vida	Espiral de la muerte	Espiral de la muerte
	Maldición de agonía	Maldición de agonía	Maldición de los Elementos
	Maldición de la fatalidad	Maldición de debilidad	Pacto oscuro
	Maldición de agotamiento	Pacto oscuro	Pacto oscuro
	Pacto oscuro	Aflicción inestable	Aflicción inestable
	Aflicción inestable	Aflicción inestable	Aflicción inestable
	Poseer	Pacto oscuro	Poseer
	Poseer	Poseer

Efecto #3

Dummy
Valor: 15
Multiplicador JcJ: 1
Acción del lado del servidor

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