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Comentario de 9545

Another great talent for Shadowpriests. Just remember that it's good "additional" healing and can never replace a good Heal or Flash Heal.

Comentario de BoddAH

Does the healing from Vampiric Embrace work from a Priest using a Shadow type Wand?
I'm not lvl 30 yet, but this is a crucial question/answer for anyone leveling a priest imo.

"Afflicts your target with Shadow energy that causes all party members to be healed for 15% of any Shadow spell damage you deal for 60 sec."

the tooltip says shadow *spell* so I guess no, but well...

Comentario de 35402

Does this include if you do dmg with a shadow wand? Does anyone know?

Comentario de 99096

I would like to know about the aggro since its adding additional healing to your shadow spells it should add more aggro to them as well right? please let me know if it does or doesn't.

Comentario de 159390

Although it's stating the obvious, it will take pressure off healers when you're with those pesky life tapping locks in 5 mans

Comentario de Althal

This is getting a nerf in group utility in patch 3.0.3:

# Vampiric Embrace now heals the priest by 15% and other party members by 3%. (Old - Priest and Party members all healed by 15%)

They do buff Improved Vampiric Embrace:

# Improved Vampiric Embrace now increases the healing received from Vampiric Embrace by 33/66%. (Up from 5/10%)

Which gives around 25% healing to yourself and ~5% to your party. In other words, this nerf/buff won't affect you directly, but only your party members.

Comentario de 386345

Also, if you have the glyph of PW:Shield, it can also heal you without having to come out of shadowform. So I would much rather spend a bit o' mana and not have any push back and a free heal.

Comentario de 296423

so how does this work with Grace and Focused Power?

Comentario de 468757

From the 3.3 PTR - New! (10/13): Vampiric Embrace: This ability is now provides a 30-minute buff that cannot be dispelled, instead of a target debuff.

In other words, a shadow priest will have to cast VE on themselves once every 30 minutes, and presumably all shadow damage done to any target(s) will proc healing. This sounds like a HUGE buff for shadow priests!

Comentario de Movanz

In Warcraft III VE's icon was used to portrait the acolyte's(basic undead worker) ability to unsummon your buildings to gain a % of the resources you used to build them,which was preferable instead of having them destroyed by the enemy.
Whenever you have a hard time on your shadow priest, i suggest you take look at the icon's symbol and ROCK ON \m/.

Comentario de Stryker666

Anyone know if Improved Vampiric Embrace will still work in the same way? (With slight difference)

VE heals you for 25% (167% of 15%)
VE heals others for 5% (167% of 3%)

Comentario de Seriau

This has turned into a godly soloing tool at low levels. Without the need to pop it on every enemy, things die much faster. On my Priest I did not need to shield myself to keep from taking damage, which preserved my mana and increased speed even more.

I would not call this a nerf at all, but rather a change. And a very nice one.

Comentario de 402439

Not seen an answer to this yet. Does VE actually increase your threat?

Comentario de Foetsjie

Does the Icecrown Citadel Zone-wide buff also improve VE's healing?
So, let's say 25% buff is active, you hit a boss for 6k damage, do you get healed for 1125 or do you get healed for 900?

Thanks in advance

Comentario de Thottbot

Does anyone know if shadow damage from wands affects vampiric embrace? With the new auto cast on wands, that could be pretty cool! ^^

Comentario de Thottbot

Afflicts your target with Shadow energy that causes all party members to be healed for 20% of any Shadow spell damage you deal for 1 min.

=P

Comentario de Thottbot

hum it seems that the amount of healing points healed with vampiric embrace is not modified by those items that give healing bonuses ( like the full devout set bounus) .... its true?

Comentario de Thottbot

does anyone know if the party has to be in a certain range from you or the target to heal them?

Comentario de Thottbot

doesn't affect wands...

affects items with +23 shadow damage with spells etc....

also works with undead priests
D Plague!

not only do priests drain 113 life + gain it from the target they also get +34 life per 3 secs with vampiric and D plague!

NUFF UNDEAD PRIESTS!

Comentario de Thottbot

undead r over powered!
but they dont need a nuff. the other priests need a buff!

does any1 no if Spiritual Healing stacks with Vampiric Embrace?

if it does it'd b worth somthing for the priests to look into

Comentario de Thottbot

does this work with mana burn too? considering mana burn does shadow damage.

Comentario de Thottbot

stop complaining about overpowered priests! the troll ones get something like the shaman's lightning shield so they're pretty cool too

Comentario de Thottbot

never never ever say that they should nerf priests, they are theone class that everyody loves, and probably will be saving your ass in PVP and PVE. but about this sopell, from the way i read it, YES it does heal you, but NO wands dont work. its says shadowspells, not just dmg, or things like blackout would proc from wands, and fast shadow wands would own witha 10% chance to stun... still this spell kicks ass nonetheless.

Comentario de Thottbot

in the new patch 1.10 there is an improved vampiric embrace to where at lvl 32 you can have 30% damage healed to you and your party

Comentario de Thottbot

does shadow dmg from OTHER people (or other priests) trigger the party heal?

-xkq

Comentario de Thottbot

The Heal can crit =)

Comentario de Thottbot

Does it stack with other priest's Vampiric embrace? i.e. can two or three shadow priests cast it on the same mob and all be healing the group? If so I would think this might start to really add up.

Comentario de Thottbot

like the saying "we saved your ass in WW2" well priests have the right to say "we save your asses everyday of the week" sure i admit the undead priest needs to have its power taken down but the whole point if a shadow priest is power and a really cool aura in shadow form

Comentario de Thottbot

Yes, it does heal you. Seeing as you are a member of your own party... And that would be retarded if it only healed other party members, cuz what if you're not IN a party? It would be utterly useless for soloing, and I don't think Blizz would be that stupid.

Comentario de Thottbot

I have a 60 shadowpriest, ive been a shadowpriest ever since i hit 60. heres the lowdown.

1. wands dont heal you even if they are shadow damage. but you should definatley use a shadow wand because of shadow weaving which improves all shadow damage dealt to the enemy.
2. This spell, even though it is a "healing effect" is not improved by +healing spell gear or plus damage/healing gear. I was a little annoyed when i figured this out but I have tested it and it gives you 30% of the shadow damage you do only. no more. so if you want to improve your healing ability just stock up on +shadow damage gear. I came to terms with this because i own everything and their moms already and if i could heal any better i would be invincible.
3. multiple priests can use this skill but they each have to cast their own vampiric embrace on the target. and yes it is incredible. the only thing is that shadow weaving cant be stacked double. just gets to 5procs faster.
4. this spell heals you and your party for 30% of your shadowspell damage. If you spec right you can be a really good backup healer in instances. the only problem is it only heals the people that are directly in your party and not in the raid group. max shadow affinity and watch your aggro. if you run into a lot of aggro problems you can spec so that your threat is really small but you have to put some into disciplin.
5. devouring plague is a great skill but you should only use it in a one on one situation because it uses so much mana. its ridiculous. if they have vampiric embrace on them with this you get 130% of the damage it causes healed to you.

Comentario de Thottbot

"afflicts your target with Shadow energy that causes all party members to be healed for 30% of any Shadow spell damage you deal for 1 min"

*Shadow damage done by SPELLS ONLY! no wands!
*The damage must be shadow, not the spell so spells like mana burn feedback would work even though they're discipline.
*Stacks with devouring plague (duh).
*Can be resisted easily even with poor SR.
*Counts as a curse so useless against mages or druids.
*DoT+VE on multiple mobs works great but the 10 seconds cooldown can be frustrating.

Comentario de Thottbot

I do dislike the fact that this spell doesn't work with want damage, I wish I had checked this thread before I went out and tried it since it was a constant question on here too. I heard on the mana burn thread that it does work with mana burn so I guess I'll have to test it for my self. Just as a warning, if you get a mod like cosmos and a full party this spell can literally block the center or your entire screen. I could see the healing effects on all all party members from SW+MF so much that I couldn't see the guy I was attacking.

Comentario de Thottbot

I just managed to dispel this off of myself in a BG whilst trying to remove SW:P, since when was VE considered a magic effect?

Comentario de Thottbot

As a shadow priest, I can say it is super frustrating trying to solo level a squishie priest. I usually learn where the graveyards are in each area before I've seen much of the rest of it. If you nerf Shadow priests, you'll quickly lose your healers, because this class is hard enuf to level with. Make it harder, and no one would play them.

Comentario de Thottbot

Give this to warlocks and they could outheal a shammy, lol

Comentario de Thottbot

This ability is good in raids too but i wouldn't take Improved Vampiric Embrace because healing + dmg causes a lot of threat.

Comentario de Thottbot

Anyone tried combining this with a warlocks curse of shadow?

Comentario de Thottbot

Been hoping for a comment on how much threat this causes, and how to maximize its usage during a raid. I notice a lot of high end s. priests don't get impr. v. embrace. I'm assuming b/c of the high threat. Any high end s. priests out there that have it improved that can share their strategy on how they also keep their threat under the MT?

Thanks.

Comentario de Allakhazam

silly people, its race specific

Comentario de Allakhazam

It's the undead racial spell, geniuses. You get it at lvl 20 from a quest.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Can someone PLEASE update the Priest spells list?

And put the spells actually at the _right_ levels?

It's more than misleading to put such a high level spell (which you get from a talent) at Level _1_..........

Comentario de Allakhazam

This is a talent not a spell. It should be removed as a spell.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Vampiric Embrace = Priest? Hmmm....

Comentario de Allakhazam

Vampiric Embrace is a shadow talent. Not there, my foot. Just check the shadow line for yourself. You need 20 points in shadow talents to get it though, which puts it a long way from Level 1.

Comentario de Allakhazam

This is a talent. You get it not a lvl one you have to have 20 points in your shadow talents to get it.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Does Vampiric Embrace also heal you for damage caused by your shadow wand?

Comentario de Allakhazam

For those who says it's an Undead race ability, nay, you're wrong.

Devouring Plague is an Undead race specfic spell, but Vamp. Embrace isn't.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Go priest.
When you get the talentwindow.,Check shadow.
And there you find a nice icon saying its a TALENT!

There are many talents that you can learn only rank 2 and up from a trainer(so any rank 2 you cant learn, check the talentwindow).
IE Mage:pyroblastthingy.

Edited, Fri May 20 09:01:09 2005

Comentario de Allakhazam

(ignore this post, it's useless)

Edited, Sun Mar 13 11:23:17 2005

Comentario de Allakhazam

for those who say this spell is not in game, i believe it is race Specific. Undead possibly

Comentario de Allakhazam

Troll ftl?

Vamp Emb. rocks:

Here's my cycle:

Vamp Emb Pull, Mind Blast, Mind Flay, SW:P, Shield, Mind Blast, Mind Flay (or Mana Burn if caster), Mind Flay, Mind Blast, Mind Flay, Mind Flay, Mind Bl... you get the picture.

In a group of five I can keep a group attacking up to 3 even levels at top health until I run out of mana, which is usually when I wand the last one to death.

For the MB/MF/MF routine you need at least 3 (4 is better) in the Improved Mind Blast Talent.

Comentario de Allakhazam

i think its race specific

Comentario de Allakhazam

hmmm... a quite decent healing spell for shadow priests it seems... since they can't cast normal heal spells this can make some things good about the fact shadow priests can't heal, while being in shadow form

Comentario de Allakhazam

as much i hate to say it to those who think it not in the game it is ,but it's a talnet as stated from another poster ,

i just cleaned my preist talnet , sense to me it makes sense for her to do shadow till 42 .

she now 33 i hope to have shadowform by 40 . then it's a new thing to think about at 42 with greater heal.

holy i guess.

later

Comentario de Allakhazam

Yep. It's a TALENT, not a spell. Echelon 5, to be exact.

Which puts it a heck of a long way away from level 1.

Comentario de Allakhazam

This spell should be reclassified as level 30, the lowest level you can get it in the talent tree.

As far as how useful it is... I like this spell. I tend to cast Shadow Word: Pain on almost every target that we pull. Assuming there's 3 mobs, all with SW:P and Vampiric Embrace on them, that's about 500 points of healing to everyone in the party for only 120 mana above what I'd normally spend anyway.

I figured that this way: At level 42, my SW:P does 85 damage per 3 second. Each mob is killed in about 15 seconds. So my SW:P does about 400 damage to the first mob, about 800 to the second, and about 1200 to the third (because I renew it when it drops). Since all 3 of those mobs have VE on them, that means 1/5 of that damage becomes healing for my party... 2400/5 = just under 500.

I do the SW:P attacks anyway, because they're cheap for the damage they do, and draw very little aggro. The only extra mana I'm spending to get this 2500 points of healing for the party is the 120 mana for VE on each mob. Even for a single pull (SW:P does 400 damage in the ~15 seconds it takes for the mob to die) that's 80 health to everyone for an mere 40 mana. Still worth it. The bigger the battle, the more efficient it becomes, which is when I need efficiency the most.

The only time it may not be worth it is if I'm low on mana, and I can't afford to spend it on SW:P. It's also less useful if the tank is very good at holding aggro, and only the tank needs the health... but I've found that in a 5 person group, everyone takes a little damage from AOE, short aggro, etc, and VE keeps them nice and healthy.

My take on VE is that it helps a Shadowspec priest be a little more mana efficient at healing on the occasions when they do group. Over the course of a battle, it's equivalent to a free Prayer.

Comentario de Allakhazam

This spell is not in game.

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Abrazo vampírico

Abrazo vampírico

Talento

Instante

Te llena con el abrazo de energía de las Sombras que provoca que te sanes un 15% y que otros miembros del grupo se sanen un 3% de cualquier daño con hechizos de las Sombras que inflijas a un objetivo durante 30 min.

Mejora

Abrazo vampírico

El 15% del daño con hechizos de las Sombras causado a un solo objetivo con los hechizos lanzados por el sacerdote sana al sacerdote y un 3% sana al grupo.
30 minutos restantes

Detalles de hechizos

Duración

30 minutos

Escuela

Sombras

Mecanica

n/d

Tipo de disipación

n/d

Categoría GCD

Normal

Costo

Ninguno

Rango

0 metros (Self)

Tiempo de lanzamiento

Instante

Reutilización

n/d

GCD

1.5 segundos

Posibilidades de activación de aura

100%

Efecto

Apply Aura: [Dummy]
Valor: 15
Multiplicador JcJ: 1
Acción del lado del servidor

Banderas

[Can Proc From Procs]

Abrazo vampírico

Mejora

Detalles de hechizos

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