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Comentario de 29800

This is a very good and arguably almost a must have talent now in both PvP and PvE. Since Commanding Shout increases total health of all party members within 20 yards by 1080, a 25% increase is equivalent to 270 extra health. If you have 4 party members around you when you cast it, that's an extra 1350 health for the entire party.

Comentario de 124694

From the comments of Battle Shout by Suarco.

Battle Shout (rank 8) = 305 AP

1/5 Commanding presence = 1,05 x 305 = 320,25 AP
2/5 Commanding presence = 1,10 x 305 = 335,50 AP
3/5 Commanding presence = 1,15 x 305 = 350,75 AP
4/5 Commanding presence = 1,20 x 305 = 366 AP
5/5 Commanding presence = 1,25 x 305 = 381,25 AP

So if 14 AP is approx. 1 dps, Chuffy is pretty right by saying that each talent point will increase your dps by ~1.

14 Attack power almost always increases your DPS by more than 1 as it is added to each ability that use (Heroic Strike, Slam, Mortal Strike, Bloodthirst etc. except for Execute).

For 2-handed weapons users, if you pick up Piercing howl for utility, the choice for the 5th point comes from dropping a point from improved execute. Every raid needs a blood frenzy warrior, I'm just looking at how best to spec him. Thoughts?

Edit: Considering that the 15.25 extra attack power is given to every party member, it's almost certain that the last point in commanding pressense will be better spent than in improved execute. Unless you're in a group where you are the only one to benefit from battle shout AND you're not needing to keep Commanding Shout up, then commanding pressence will certainly be better in the long run.

Comentario de Qoma

Values for Commanding Shout at level 80; 0 to 5 points in Commanding Presence:

0 pt: 2255 hp (base)
1 pt: 2367 hp (+112)
2 pt: 2480 hp (+225)
3 pt: 2593 hp (+338)
4 pt: 2706 hp (+451)
5 pt: 2818 hp (+563)

Comentario de 271490

Does this not work raid wide? Every time it is used in our raid the buff only says 550. So does that mean it only gives the warrior the extra AP when used?

Comentario de 182403

paladins will have bom, and any warlock with imp makes much of your commanding shout obsolete, potenionally wasting 5 talent points

it may be good if you have a good idea who your party members gonna be (steady grouping, arena games) and they all benefit from it

I still think that with
-your basic battle shout skill being 550 (aprox +130ap)
-and basic commanding shout being 2250 (aprox +500hp)
it's not such a huge increase

ofc you can argumentate that your whole party benefits from it but you will rarely spread damage out trough the whole party (in case of commanding) and the benefit from ap is situational (melee only) and still meager

When you are in early 80's gear or stil leveling this talent may be benefitial, if you (and your party) have (not all that) good gear the benefit form 130ap or 500hp isn't gonna be world changing and there are talents that scale much better

Comentario de 490136

Does it not show up on the buff? With 5 talent points in it my battle shout only went from showing 305 to showing 312 attack power.

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Aumenta un 25% el bonus de poder de ataque cuerpo a cuerpo de tu Grito de batalla y el bonus de salud de tu Grito de orden.

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Apply Aura: [Modifies Spell Effectiveness] (8)
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