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Comentario de 81609

Let's see... an organ that can shield me mightily with its... organ-ness, and when I get to being hit, I recieve a rush of stamina that builds and builds so that I can take it until finally the other person drops?

It has to be the duodenum.

Comentario de blademeld

Assuming a single target of standard attack speed (2.0) slowed to 2.4 seconds per hit, with an avoidance of

Defenses
25187 Armor
590 Defense
35.03% Dodge
26.93% Parry
15.51% Block

+ ~5% dodge from raid buffs

(Stats taken from Kungen)

you have (before and after diminishing returns):
40% dodge --> 33%
27% parry --> 25%
10% miss --> 9%

There are 4 possible scenarios to look at in a single target situation: ICC (-20% dodge) versus non-ICC with parry as "hits" and the same where parry does not count as "hits"

Scenario 1: ICC with parry as "hit"
13% dodge + 9% miss = 22% avoidance
Over 10 seconds, you are attacked 4 times before the buff wears off.
100 * 78 * 60 = 46.8% chance for the proc to refresh per hit.
53.2% ^ 4 = 7.5% chance that the proc will not refresh itself.
92.5% uptime

Scenario 2: non-ICC with parry as "hit"
33% dodge + 9% miss = 42% avoidance
Over 10 seconds, you are attacked 4 times before the buff wears off.
100 * 58 * 60 = 34.8% chance for the proc to refresh per hit.
65.2% ^ 4 = 18.1% chance that the proc will not refresh itself.
81.9%% uptime

Scenario 3: ICC with parry as non-"hit"
13% dodge + 25% parry + 9% miss = 47% avoidance
Over 10 seconds, you are attacked 4 times before the buff wears off.
100 * 53 * 60 = 31.8% chance for the proc to refresh per hit.
68.2% ^ 4 = 21.6% chance that the proc will not refresh itself.
78.4% uptime

Scenario 4: non-ICC with parry as non-"hit"
33% dodge + 25% parry + 9% miss = 67% avoidance
Over 10 seconds, you are attacked 4 times before the buff wears off.
100 * 33 * 60 = 19.8% chance for the proc to refresh per hit.
80.2% ^ 4 = 41.4% chance that the proc will not refresh itself.
58.6%% uptime

Several things to account for: special attacks (will increase # hits), mobs with different attack speed (another increase), mobs with adds (increase yet again), scripted events (decrease in # hits)

Comentario de 423618

Do I read "AWESOME" written all over it?

Great trinket for all tank classes, as simple as that (no it's not hunter loot, I'm sorry)

Comentario de ixnorp

It's probably a Bear Organ

Comentario de martinu

The buff is called Invigorated.

LE: Another valid useful comment downrated <3.

Comentario de dragontooth

S2 Organ from Evangelion?

Comentario de 485693

Call me cynical, but I really really do not like the look of this.

-Stamina is stacked because it increases Effective Health
-Effective Health increases Time to Live
-Time to Live measures how long a tank can survive without heals, avoidance or procs. This is important because in wrath, bosses hit hard and tanks need to be as best able to eat a string of unavoided attacks as they can.

The problem: Time to Live measures the worst case scenario. That means no procs. Even with lower tank avoidance in ICC, it is possible to get a lucky avoidance streak or for it to not proc and have this buff drop. 10 stacks dropped? You just lost nearly 3k health after buffs.

Bad stuff happens. I've been killed more than once by Last Stand ending at an inappropriate time. This just seems like something that could do it again.

TLDR: RNG and stamina together make me uncomfortable

Comentario de EvilElpay

I honestly wonder if Blizzard created this just because Blizzard knows that we are going to wear it based on stats alone no matter how grotesque wearing someone else's body parts can be.

...then again wearing someone else's body parts can be sexy. o.O

Comentario de 230590

Unidentifiable Organ = running out of names to call things?

there is also a trinket called Dislodged Foreign Object too... also seems silly that you are carrying something around that you have no idea what it is, but it makes you powerful anyways

Comentario de 366600

you have (before and after diminishing returns):
40% dodge --> 33%
27% parry --> 25%
10% miss --> 9%

I thought the chance for an incoming hit to miss you isn't affected by diminishing returns? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Comentario de Loof42

So, how exactly do you wear this thing? Do you need surgery or duct tape?

Comentario de 347524

.. This is only like 3k hp you know, and not 30% as last stand.. Theres no need to worry if it drops, youll probably also have spells to help you through the rough time right after the hp drop.. Its easy to time it, when its 10sec.

Comentario de 314537

Do the effects from the heroic and non-heroic trinket stack?

Comentario de 469190

Since I don't want anyone reading the above post and making the mistake to think that this is a good trinket...

Taken from a post by Theck (http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.com/forum/index.php?rb_v=viewtopic&f=21&t=26800)

Boss attack speed of 1 second (10^6 iterations, or 100k events)

Avoidance......p......uptime......mean stack size......ramp time
40..............0.36.......98.2.................9.....................29.5
45..............0.33.......97.5.................8.7..................32.3
50..............0.30.......96.2.................8.1..................35.7
60..............0.24.......92.0.................6.4..................44.8

Boss attack speed of 2.4 seconds (10^6 iterations, or ~41k events)

Avoidance......p......uptime......mean stack size......ramp time
40..............0.36.......84.5.................4.1..................70.9
45..............0.33.......81....................3.6..................77.6
50..............0.30.......77.8.................2.9..................85.6
60..............0.24.......68.....................2...................107.6

In the above figures, p is the probability of it not proccing, uptime is % you'd have ANY stacks up, mean stack size is the average stack you'd have up and ramp time is the number of events required to build up a 10-stack from zero given the boss's attack speed.

Obviously there's a noticeable difference in these two situations. For fast-swinging bosses, the organ is a decent trinket, though for normal fight lengths of 5 minutes or so there's still a good 90-95% chance your buff will drop off at some point during the fight, requiring 30 seconds to build it back up.

For a slow-swinging boss, the trinket quickly becomes abysmal. You're nearly guaranteed the buff will drop off multiple times, and the average stack size will be low, netting you under 100 stamina. Of course, the armor itself is going to be worth around 170 stamina for a purely physical boss encounter, but there are better trinket options that don't have the severe ramp-up and drop-off difficulties.

It could be worthwhile on Marrowgar if Bone Storm can keep it up.

Deathwhisper, Saurfang, and Festergut all have tank swaps.

Gunship potentially has "retreat time" if you're tanking the captain, and if you're tanking adds there will be periods with nothing attacking you.

Could be worth using on Rotface if you're tanking the boss, useless if you're tanking adds though.

Tanking Putricide it could be good for phases 1 and 2, but phase 3 has tank swaps. Since phase 3 is the dangerous part for the tank, it's probably not a good choice for this fight either.

Comentario de 261770

I don't care if the stack drops .. and I hate it when the stack gets stuck at 10. Each time you gain a stack thats a 400 point heal!

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