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Comment by 6854

Pounce, claw three times, then rake.

Once you have enough energy for the five point rip, do it and then switch to caster form.

Moonfire the enemy, then cast rejuvenation on yourself.

Go to bear form.
Win.

Comment by Hansol

This attack does a bit more damage then Ferocious Bite and should be used on Mobs with alot of life since it is a DoT(damage over time), Ferocious Bite would be more used if the target is almost dead but if your fighting a boss it can get you up top on the damage meter and costs 5 less energy then Ferocious Bite.

Comment by 6780

At 1800 AP, this ticks for about 470 damage (assuming mangle is up). Very useful on boss fights that bleed. Not as effective when soloing where maim or bite can nearly finish off your enemy.

Comment by 66085

Can someone tell me where u can see how many combo point you have?

Comment by 78910

Not Really accurate on the dmg scale.. at lvl 61, with about
1200 AP, i have bites that crit close to that 2.5k mark you were referring to, so to say that at 2k AP, and only bite for 2.5k dmg.. something is not right there.

On the whole, a good rule of thumb is to bleed if they are not gonna die from the bite, PLUS, you can stack the bleed dmg, (mangle/rake/pounce) if you crit alot, with talents, you can get 2 combo points per crit, so pounce, shred, (shred again if you have the talents), mangle (you should be at 5 pts now) if not rake that will put you at 5.. then rip, then repeat. bite should only be used for pvp burst dmg, and to do what it was intended for .. a FINISHING MOVE

Comment by n44tje

Rip does do a lot more damage as fer bite, as a lvl 70 druid (just lvlvd, poor gear) it ticks around 480 for me, and ofcourse ignores armor!!, so you'll have to use it against high armor bosses for sure, knowing tht fer bite only crist around 2-3k vs high armor mob.
different vs normal trash mobs in instances though, knowing that the mob ur killing at that time wil probably not last the full time, you can better you the bite on them.

Comment by 33857

How your rotation usually works: Mangle, four seconds to get 40 energy back, Shred, four seconds, Shred, four seconds - twelve seconds total. If you have good enough agility, you should almost always be getting a crit for an extra combo point so you can Rip for four points. The Rip debuff lasts twelve seconds, so you'll be able to throw another one on right after the last one ends.

The point about Ferocious Bite using up all of your energy is also important. Shred with 2/2 shredding attacks costs 42 energy. If you use FB, you'll have to wait three ticks before having the energy for your next Shred, but you always have those spare couple of points if you're Ripping.

Comment by 118286

this is the must have ability for raids and instances if your feral dps. its only lack is for soloing, because most mobs your level will die around the time you get the 5th point on your target

Comment by 83662

May thy enemies Rest In Peace.

Comment by Feato

This is the main finishing move for raiding druids. It provides some serious DPS and is a bleed you'd rather not see on anything but your enemies!

Comment by 328966

As just said, this is the main 'Finishing Move' for feral dps druids.
Considering the feral AP in game right now, an average FB crit (depending on armor of the enemy) is about the same of a Rip ability. But what makes Rip to be the Finishing move are these points:
- FB does not always crit
- Rip ignores armor of the enemy since the Mechanic is 'Bleed'
- If Mangle is applied the damge of Rip increases
- And with Glyph of Rip including (2) gears from the T7 set rip lasts much longer = more tics = more damage

Although, if a boss/add/mob will die in less than 12-20 seconds there isnt really a point in using it, in this situation FB is better.
For guys loving to see your FB crit, no problem, if you have glyphed and have the set bonus from T7 - rip lasts 20sec. In other words there is a chance to pop a FB before saving up more combo points for your next Rip. Because everyone loves to see crits like 13k when the trinket procs =)

Comment by 167903

Currently, at patch 3.0.8, is the best DoT in the game while correctly talented.
No other DoTs can match with this.

Comment by 186909

In 3.1 w/ the Shred+Rip Glyphs+2pcT7 it ends up as a 40-50k damage DoT over 26sec, though its losing SOME in 3.2 not enough to matter.

Comment by 363550

This ability is much stronger than the rogue's counterpart. Rip does 3000 + 30% * AP total damage vs 1700 + 30% * AP damage done by Rupture. However, the move requires 30 energy to perform while the rogue needs 0 energy to use his finisher (considering Relentless Strikes, which most players will spec into).

Comment by 450260

If Rip is a bleed effect, and the best finishing move for cat form druids, why do I see so many cats gemmed for armor penetration? Is Ferocious Bite better than Rip if you have enough armor penetration?

Comment by 258919

Also worth noting for bear off-tanks who have nothing else to do (AKA one-tank bosses like Icehowl), or for bears trying to solo old content, a mangle plus a full five stack of Lacerate plus a 5-combo point stack, plus a little Rake, can put out some serious damage. Just make sure you don't let Lacerate fade away when you're in cat form.

Most bear tanks have at least 3/5 Furor, so energy should be no problem.

Comment by Aera

I am surprised that there has yet to be a post-cataclysm comment here.

Rip and Rake are now the VERY TOP dps contributors and you will almost never use FB if you are working combo points and energy regeneration wait time correctly. The feral Mastery greatly increases all bleed damage done, and with a green-geared level 85 feral druid, you can easily have Rip to tens of thousands of damage. If you stack mastery and are well geared, the damage output of Rip as well as rake is rediculous!

NEVER use FB over Rip. If you have a large amount of time on rip left and you have 5 combo points suddenly due to consistent criticals, use roar. It is much more helpful than you may think.

Comment by 207551

Just wondering, how much does Rip tick for at lvl 85? Any answer is good but I'm especially looking for the approximate tick for a fairly good geared feral pvper on another equally geared player. The Rake ticks would also be awesome to know, in the same approximation! :>

Ty, bai!

Comment by 353796

Surprised there's no comment on this. Whenever a feral druid opens on you in arena, they will do Pounce, Mangle, Rake, Tiger's Fury, Shred, Rip generally. Okay so now you've got Pounce, Rake and an empowered Rip ticking for some pretty nasty damage on you. The feral druid is pounding on you with shred getting ready for his Maim/Ferocious Bite, then suddenly, BOOM all his hard ticking bleeds disappear! You know why?

Because you're playing a dwarf! Now if you're lucky, the feral druid might not even realise that all his bleeds on you have disappeared for just enough time that he uses a different finisher. Furthermore, you'll only be taking on a normal unempowered Rip when he does realise!

Comment by 996963

please can someone write me formula of Rip in 4.0.6

Comment by erafune

As of now 2014-05-21:
If you ever look at the tooptip of Rip in game, you can notice that the displayed damage dealt isn't boosted much by having Savage Roar active. My tooptip says 183.600 damage without Savage Roar, and 184.280 damage with. Less than 1% increase.
Whereas if you look at the tooltip of Rake, you can see that it's boosted by 40%.
When you use Rip in battle the damage is indeed boosted by about 40% by having Savage Roar active. I'm seeing about 37K per tick with Savage Roar and 26K without.

I don't know why this is, if it's a tooltip error or whatnot. From what I can see in the damage calculation tooltip up above on this page and Rake's wowhead page, both Rip and Rake should scale heavily with Attack Power. But when you use Savage Roar in game your displayed Attack Power on character page doesn't change at all. Only Weapon Damage and DPS is boosted by 40%.
Something is probably amiss, be it the in game tooptip of Rip or Rake, the displayed AP with Savage Roar active, or the damage calculations on wowhead.
Just keep in mind.

Comment by 1383209

From now on you could extend this with 30% left on its duration. That means that when its less that 7,2 sec left of Rip, you can exten and get the full benefit of its duration.

Ive made som buttons to Weak Auras 2 to help out with rip/rake/savage roar, and really liked the outcome.

Check out

youtube.com/watch?v=2MiCj3TrFnk

And you'll get the idea and import.

Comment by wisedada

From World of Warcraft 8.0.41 Patch Notes

Rip removed. RIP Rip.

(from April Fools' jokes 2018)

Links WeakAuras Export

Rip

Rip

Talent

20 Energy / 1 to 5 Combo Points	Melee Range

Instant

Finishing move that causes Bleed damage over time. Lasts longer per combo point.

1 point : [(62.26% of Attack Power) * 2] over 1 sec
2 points: [(62.26% of Attack Power) * 3] over 2 sec
3 points: [(62.26% of Attack Power) * 4] over 3 sec
4 points: [(62.26% of Attack Power) * 5] over 3 sec
5 points: [(62.26% of Attack Power) * 6] over 4 sec

Buff

Rip	Bleed

Bleeding for (31.13% of Attack Power) damage every 2 sec.
4 seconds remaining

Spell Details

Duration

4 seconds

School

Physical

Mechanic

Bleeding

Dispel type

n/a

GCD category

Normal

Cost

20 Energy / 1 to 5 Combo Points

Range

5 yards (Combat)

Cast time

Instant

Cooldown

n/a

GCD

1 second

Forms

Cat Form

Effect #1

Apply Aura: Periodic Damage
Interval: 2 seconds (AP mod: 0.3113)
Mechanic: Bleeding
PVP Multiplier: 1.113

Effect #2

Apply Aura: Dummy
Value: 2
PVP Multiplier: 1
Server-side script

Effect #3

Dummy
Value: 6
PVP Multiplier: 1
Server-side script

Effect #4

Apply Aura: Mod All Damage Done % by Caster
PVP Multiplier: 1
Affected Spells:

Shred	Ferocious Bite	Thrash
Rip	Rake	Maim
Brutal Slash	Primal Wrath	Chomp
Wisdom and Fury

Flags

Is Ability
Do Not Sheath
Initiates Combat (Enabled Auto-Attack)
Discount Power On Miss
Aura Never Bounces
Spell Haste Affects Periodic
Taps immediately
Periodic Can Crit
Aura Points On Client
Allow Class Ability Procs
Nameplate Personal Buffs/Debuffs
Periodic Refresh Extends Duration

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